Senna - Netflix
Discussion
I just finished watching this last night and I thoroughly enjoyed it and although I knew the story I was gripped the whole way through. Yes there are issues like the P reg escort and the Norfolk hills but it is a TV show, its not real (the story is of course). The story telling and casting were fantastic and some of the scenes were near perfect to the original footage that ive seen. My only real criticism is of what they made out of the British fans...
I can't lie, I shed a little tear at the end
I watched the 'making of' on my lunch break today and it was fascinating to see they made replicas of all of the cars and there was clearly a lot of passion went into making the series which I feel shines through.
I can't lie, I shed a little tear at the end
I watched the 'making of' on my lunch break today and it was fascinating to see they made replicas of all of the cars and there was clearly a lot of passion went into making the series which I feel shines through.
Ste-EVo said:
I just finished watching this last night and I thoroughly enjoyed it and although I knew the story I was gripped the whole way through. Yes there are issues like the P reg escort and the Norfolk hills but it is a TV show, its not real (the story is of course). The story telling and casting were fantastic and some of the scenes were near perfect to the original footage that ive seen. My only real criticism is of what they made out of the British fans...
I can't lie, I shed a little tear at the end
I watched the 'making of' on my lunch break today and it was fascinating to see they made replicas of all of the cars and there was clearly a lot of passion went into making the series which I feel shines through.
I must look out for ‘making of’ think it will be very interesting.I can't lie, I shed a little tear at the end
I watched the 'making of' on my lunch break today and it was fascinating to see they made replicas of all of the cars and there was clearly a lot of passion went into making the series which I feel shines through.
I also got a bit emotional during the last episode.
Overall I thought it was superb and the use of the actual grainy 80's/90's footage through the TV monitors was very clever.
The fans incident irked, especially as I almost got beaten up by some German Tifosi fans in Monza in 2000 (I had a saltire with me for David Coulthard) and I really can't imagine an F3 crowd in mountainous Norfolk rounding on some poor flag waving Brazilian...!
Given that TV series such as this inspire tourism, can we expect to see bemused South American Senna fans wandering around Snetterton thinking "but where are the famous Norfolk mountains?" Perhaps Knockhill will pickup a few tourist dollars for them to get the real "Senna" experience
Great to see the depictions of Balestre, Moseley, Ron Dennis and Frank Williams though - that and the final real footage was the emotional sucker punch for me.
The fans incident irked, especially as I almost got beaten up by some German Tifosi fans in Monza in 2000 (I had a saltire with me for David Coulthard) and I really can't imagine an F3 crowd in mountainous Norfolk rounding on some poor flag waving Brazilian...!
Given that TV series such as this inspire tourism, can we expect to see bemused South American Senna fans wandering around Snetterton thinking "but where are the famous Norfolk mountains?" Perhaps Knockhill will pickup a few tourist dollars for them to get the real "Senna" experience
Great to see the depictions of Balestre, Moseley, Ron Dennis and Frank Williams though - that and the final real footage was the emotional sucker punch for me.
Post from Snetterton on FB this morning
Given the attention to detail they've applied to much of the series and a $170m budget, I think it unforgivable that they paid so little attention to many of the ancillary content. I'm not one to be offended but I do find those crowd scenes in Britain offensive as I was there and from what I can remember, the crowds were quite sparse and comprised mainly of dull middle aged blokes with flasks.
Given the attention to detail they've applied to much of the series and a $170m budget, I think it unforgivable that they paid so little attention to many of the ancillary content. I'm not one to be offended but I do find those crowd scenes in Britain offensive as I was there and from what I can remember, the crowds were quite sparse and comprised mainly of dull middle aged blokes with flasks.
StevieBee said:
Post from Snetterton on FB this morning
Given the attention to detail they've applied to much of the series and a $170m budget, I think it unforgivable that they paid so little attention to many of the ancillary content. I'm not one to be offended but I do find those crowd scenes in Britain offensive as I was there and from what I can remember, the crowds were quite sparse and comprised mainly of dull middle aged blokes with flasks.
$170 million budget, I had no idea these kind of programmes cost so much.Given the attention to detail they've applied to much of the series and a $170m budget, I think it unforgivable that they paid so little attention to many of the ancillary content. I'm not one to be offended but I do find those crowd scenes in Britain offensive as I was there and from what I can remember, the crowds were quite sparse and comprised mainly of dull middle aged blokes with flasks.
Am I the only one who clicked on the image, so I could see the cars in more detail.
Only seen the first episode, also puzzled by the Norfolk hills. All told though, I didn't think it was bad.
Senna lived in Norwich at first - there are some hills there, but not as much as in Derry. Those with a keen eye might have seen "Elm Hill" on one of the city signposts, which presumably arose from someone spending two minutes on a Visit Norwich website.
Senna lived in Norwich at first - there are some hills there, but not as much as in Derry. Those with a keen eye might have seen "Elm Hill" on one of the city signposts, which presumably arose from someone spending two minutes on a Visit Norwich website.
Lotusgone said:
Only seen the first episode, also puzzled by the Norfolk hills. All told though, I didn't think it was bad.
Senna lived in Norwich at first - there are some hills there, but not as much as in Derry. Those with a keen eye might have seen "Elm Hill" on one of the city signposts, which presumably arose from someone spending two minutes on a Visit Norwich website.
The primary production company is called Causeway Pictures; a Belfast based company and as such, able to access highly advantageous tax incentives if productions are filmed in Ireland (North or Republic). That explains why Derry subs as Norwich.Senna lived in Norwich at first - there are some hills there, but not as much as in Derry. Those with a keen eye might have seen "Elm Hill" on one of the city signposts, which presumably arose from someone spending two minutes on a Visit Norwich website.
I was looking at the list of filmmakers for Rush (found in the pro section of ImDB. Ron Howard pulled in the likes of Clive Chapman, Ron Dennis, Matt Bishop, David Hunt, Jody Scheckter and at least 10 other people I recognise from the racing world.
For the Senna series, there's not a single 'racing person' listed in the credits other than members of Senna's family. That explains why Snetterton is in a mountainous valley and British club racing spectators resemble rabid cage-fighters.
Mischa33 said:
I quite enjoyed it despite the previously mentioned mountains of Norfolk and 'keen' Brundle supporters!
I did notice that Manish Pandey was listed as an Executive Producer in the end credits - and also on IMDB. It was a somewhat different production to his earlier 'Senna;
Really surprised he’d have allowed the level of inaccuracy if he was involved, you’d think he’d take it as an affront based on his obsessive knowledge of everything Senna. I did notice that Manish Pandey was listed as an Executive Producer in the end credits - and also on IMDB. It was a somewhat different production to his earlier 'Senna;
Mischa33 said:
Yes I did a double take when I saw his name - then checked on IMDB to make sure I hadn't imagined it!
Maybe because the events were weaved together in exactly the same way as his documentary? Like the Xuxa kisses stopping at 1993. Doesn't mean he worked on the production, they might have just had to give him some credit. I'm sure he would have been of great use to the scriptwriters/directors/producers in general - and of course his links/credibility to the Senna family, Bernie, motorsport community, etc. His docufilm will very much stand as a reference piece especially as this doesn't try to emulate that.
Tried my best to ignore the 70's German porn era dubbing...
Really liked the original tv clips woven into the series..
Although I had heard about the talk between Senna and Watkins about going fishing... made me tear up when it came on..
Still hoped he would walk away... but there you go... he never does, just as McQueen never gets over that fence...
Really liked the original tv clips woven into the series..
Although I had heard about the talk between Senna and Watkins about going fishing... made me tear up when it came on..
Still hoped he would walk away... but there you go... he never does, just as McQueen never gets over that fence...
Ste-EVo said:
I just finished watching this last night and I thoroughly enjoyed it and although I knew the story I was gripped the whole way through. Yes there are issues like the P reg escort and the Norfolk hills but it is a TV show, its not real (the story is of course). The story telling and casting were fantastic and some of the scenes were near perfect to the original footage that ive seen. My only real criticism is of what they made out of the British fans...
I can't lie, I shed a little tear at the end
I watched the 'making of' on my lunch break today and it was fascinating to see they made replicas of all of the cars and there was clearly a lot of passion went into making the series which I feel shines through.
I agree-- watch it for what it is, a short entertaining escape from reality. It's not perfect but it doesn't claim to be. I can't lie, I shed a little tear at the end
I watched the 'making of' on my lunch break today and it was fascinating to see they made replicas of all of the cars and there was clearly a lot of passion went into making the series which I feel shines through.
I am a huge Senna fan and anything that helps to resurfaces those memories is a positive for me, even if it's not an autobiography.
Red9zero said:
Just watched the first one of these and it seems pretty good. Definitely a bit "Netflix", but very watchable. Looks like there are six episodes out in series one so far, although it says limited series for some reason.
A limited series is Netflix's way of saying they'll only ever be one series, rather than it'll only be on Netflix for a limited time (which is what I thought it might mean when I first saw that wording on a different series).More nit- picking from me - he was known as Ayrton Senna da Silva in FF1660 days but by F3 , let alone F1, he was always referred to as 'Ayrton Senna', not 'Ayrton da Silva' nor the full 'Ayrton Senna da Silva'.
I'm sure all Portugese speakers pronounced his forename as the tri-syllabic 'Eye- air-ton ' but I never heard anybody else do so , not one ,until 1994. Murray Walker announced at the beginning of the season that he'd been mispronouncing the name and insisted on enunciating it , rather self consciously as 'Eye- Air-Ton . Not for very long though . for obvious reasons ...
I'm sure all Portugese speakers pronounced his forename as the tri-syllabic 'Eye- air-ton ' but I never heard anybody else do so , not one ,until 1994. Murray Walker announced at the beginning of the season that he'd been mispronouncing the name and insisted on enunciating it , rather self consciously as 'Eye- Air-Ton . Not for very long though . for obvious reasons ...
coppice said:
More nit- picking from me - he was known as Ayrton Senna da Silva in FF1660 days but by F3 , let alone F1, he was always referred to as 'Ayrton Senna', not 'Ayrton da Silva' nor the full 'Ayrton Senna da Silva'.
I'm sure all Portugese speakers pronounced his forename as the tri-syllabic 'Eye- air-ton ' but I never heard anybody else do so , not one ,until 1994. Murray Walker announced at the beginning of the season that he'd been mispronouncing the name and insisted on enunciating it , rather self consciously as 'Eye- Air-Ton . Not for very long though . for obvious reasons ...
I'm sure I heard Murray pronounce it that way for a time in the 80's too. He seemed to dip in and out of doing it!I'm sure all Portugese speakers pronounced his forename as the tri-syllabic 'Eye- air-ton ' but I never heard anybody else do so , not one ,until 1994. Murray Walker announced at the beginning of the season that he'd been mispronouncing the name and insisted on enunciating it , rather self consciously as 'Eye- Air-Ton . Not for very long though . for obvious reasons ...
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