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Just watched the final episode. Agree that it was all a bit rushed, the previous seasons moved slowly at times but the story was complicated and needed time. It reminded me a lot of the Sopranos with its pacing.
This season was far too short, it deserved a full length final season at least. I think there was a couple more series in it tbh.
This season was far too short, it deserved a full length final season at least. I think there was a couple more series in it tbh.
Edited by paul99 on Sunday 2nd November 22:11
chris watton said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Really crap ending.
Not the way to treat people who have followed it for hours and hours and hours.
I agree - more so when you realise that the character Nucky was based on lived to a ripe old age!Not the way to treat people who have followed it for hours and hours and hours.
No fireworks, no shoot-out, but that was the point.
Where Nucky's story, as we saw it, from season one going forward was full of power, pomp and money, it was fitting it ended with a whimper.
We saw that he wasn't obsessed with money any more, in fact the opposite, he's the richest he'd ever been but doesn't even care to ask for the figure.
We see that his life's equity was lost, to save the life of his nephew. But, in a moral tale, the riches gained by a lifetime building an empire through hard work and somewhat illegal means is eclipsed by a day manipulating the stock exchange.
So, he's out of the game, older and wiser and he thinks he's home free. A new beginning. But it's not, as the climax of the flashback scenes which clearly are there to shoe how his empire started make it clear that his career was based on a single premise. That was he was willing to do both illegal and immoral things for someone powerful, and live with the consequences. And so the story of how the Darmidys are linked to Nucky is complete.
The final scene is where of course that comes back with a vengeance. Just as he thinks he's out of the game, something he didn't expect comes out of the woodwork. But with no empire to protect him any more, wiped out in every meaning of the word by the mob, he's on his own.
Although it's been posted otherwise, I think the two men in the final scene were implied to be hitmen, of course sent by Lucky in his culling of every possible threat. As Tommy is stood over him though, I am almost certain one of the men holds out a badge and says 'You're under arrest...' before restraining Tommy. I think the implication is whilst he thought he was 'home free' there was always going to be one of the three parties going to catch up with him.
JustinP1 said:
I'll stick my neck out, and say the ending was perfect.
No fireworks, no shoot-out, but that was the point.
Where Nucky's story, as we saw it, from season one going forward was full of power, pomp and money, it was fitting it ended with a whimper.
We saw that he wasn't obsessed with money any more, in fact the opposite, he's the richest he'd ever been but doesn't even care to ask for the figure.
We see that his life's equity was lost, to save the life of his nephew. But, in a moral tale, the riches gained by a lifetime building an empire through hard work and somewhat illegal means is eclipsed by a day manipulating the stock exchange.
So, he's out of the game, older and wiser and he thinks he's home free. A new beginning. But it's not, as the climax of the flashback scenes which clearly are there to shoe how his empire started make it clear that his career was based on a single premise. That was he was willing to do both illegal and immoral things for someone powerful, and live with the consequences. And so the story of how the Darmidys are linked to Nucky is complete.
The final scene is where of course that comes back with a vengeance. Just as he thinks he's out of the game, something he didn't expect comes out of the woodwork. But with no empire to protect him any more, wiped out in every meaning of the word by the mob, he's on his own.
Although it's been posted otherwise, I think the two men in the final scene were implied to be hitmen, of course sent by Lucky in his culling of every possible threat. As Tommy is stood over him though, I am almost certain one of the men holds out a badge and says 'You're under arrest...' before restraining Tommy. I think the implication is whilst he thought he was 'home free' there was always going to be one of the three parties going to catch up with him.
Superb summary. No fireworks, no shoot-out, but that was the point.
Where Nucky's story, as we saw it, from season one going forward was full of power, pomp and money, it was fitting it ended with a whimper.
We saw that he wasn't obsessed with money any more, in fact the opposite, he's the richest he'd ever been but doesn't even care to ask for the figure.
We see that his life's equity was lost, to save the life of his nephew. But, in a moral tale, the riches gained by a lifetime building an empire through hard work and somewhat illegal means is eclipsed by a day manipulating the stock exchange.
So, he's out of the game, older and wiser and he thinks he's home free. A new beginning. But it's not, as the climax of the flashback scenes which clearly are there to shoe how his empire started make it clear that his career was based on a single premise. That was he was willing to do both illegal and immoral things for someone powerful, and live with the consequences. And so the story of how the Darmidys are linked to Nucky is complete.
The final scene is where of course that comes back with a vengeance. Just as he thinks he's out of the game, something he didn't expect comes out of the woodwork. But with no empire to protect him any more, wiped out in every meaning of the word by the mob, he's on his own.
Although it's been posted otherwise, I think the two men in the final scene were implied to be hitmen, of course sent by Lucky in his culling of every possible threat. As Tommy is stood over him though, I am almost certain one of the men holds out a badge and says 'You're under arrest...' before restraining Tommy. I think the implication is whilst he thought he was 'home free' there was always going to be one of the three parties going to catch up with him.
I think, if around 14 years old and also liked Godzilla, then you would have been disappointed.
However for the majority I would assume they would take a similar view to the above, and rightly so.
I wasn't keen on the constant flashbacks in this series. I thought they were too long and too often, which meant that a lot of other story lines were skimmed over. I didn't want a flash/bang ending, but the one we got just left me a little underwhelmed.
(And in true Breaking Bad style, we didn't actually see Nucky die)
(And in true Breaking Bad style, we didn't actually see Nucky die)
monthefish said:
What was the 'glimpse' into the future thing all about? Seemed to go nowhere...
Also, in the scene with Narciss & Chalky, I assume the little girl was Chalky's daughter and Chalky paid for their freedom with his own life?
Yes, I understand the Chalky scene the same way. He gave his life for his daughter.Also, in the scene with Narciss & Chalky, I assume the little girl was Chalky's daughter and Chalky paid for their freedom with his own life?
The TV bit for me had two purposes:
Firstly, it was another signifier along with the dithering on where to live etc that he thought the book had been closed on his old life and he had no idea what the future held.
The second purpose was simply one the devices they had to put scenes in the historical context of current affairs of the day. There's references to famous boxing matches, transatlantic flights etc. I don't know much of the history of TV, but I do know the first gramophones were essentially fairground attractions, and I am guessing that that early form of TV was the same.
JustinP1 said:
Although it's been posted otherwise, I think the two men in the final scene were implied to be hitmen, of course sent by Lucky in his culling of every possible threat. As Tommy is stood over him though, I am almost certain one of the men holds out a badge and says 'You're under arrest...' before restraining Tommy. I think the implication is whilst he thought he was 'home free' there was always going to be one of the three parties going to catch up with him.
I had subtitles on; as the two men tried to pull Tommy away from Nucky, one said 'Mr Thompson, can you hear me? We are the agents of Internal Revenue Service.....'
king IRS!!!
Season 5, as I have mentioned before, seemed out of sync with the previous four series'. It seemed too rushed - a bottle of Blue Nun to the previous fine wine, where I savoured every minute of the (arguably glacial) pace, acting and superb sets.
I was disappointed they killed Nucky off, as the real life version survived to a ripe old age.
I was disappointed they killed Nucky off, as the real life version survived to a ripe old age.
chris watton said:
Season 5, as I have mentioned before, seemed out of sync with the previous four series'. It seemed too rushed - a bottle of Blue Nun to the previous fine wine, where I savoured every minute of the (arguably glacial) pace, acting and superb sets.
I was disappointed they killed Nucky off, as the real life version survived to a ripe old age.
The character he was loosely based on was Johnson, not Thompson. The name change was intentional - Thompson and much of what we saw onscreen was a fictional character. I was disappointed they killed Nucky off, as the real life version survived to a ripe old age.
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