Major explosion/bomb in Oslo

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carmonk

7,910 posts

186 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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chris watton said:
fluffnik said:
I'm deeply disappointed by religions recent resurgence, in my teens it seemed to be fading away quite nicely. frown

I'm all for personal religious freedom but it disgusts me that religions and religious institutions should receive any special protections or privileges.
Me too! We never used to bother about religion - I always assumed that we were 'growing out of it', being a civilised society - but we do seem to have regressed...
Infected rather than regressed.

Shay HTFC

3,585 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Apache said:
Shay HTFC said:
I think that in a way, people need religion. As long as there are hard times in the world, people are going to turn to religion of some sort.
It'd be nice if they could turn to each other rather than some imaginary friend who is better than everyone else s imaginary friend though wouldn't it
I don't want to take this off topic, but my mum is religious. She's had a tough life and religion gives her hope, strength and a feeling of relative peace. Who is anyone to say that she shouldn't be allowed to experience those things the way she chooses to providing she's not hurting anyone else.

It would be nice if people could turn to each other, yes, but that can't always happen and ironically is a bit of an idealistic hope.

Edited by Shay HTFC on Thursday 26th April 13:36

fluffnik

20,156 posts

226 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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carmonk said:
Infected rather than regressed.
yes

Deliberately at that. irked

AJS-

15,366 posts

235 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Most western "religion" I have encountered is more social and cultural in nature than a true belief in some spiritual being. Even most of the bible belt loons in the states.

TallbutBuxomly

12,254 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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Shay HTFC said:
Don't you think theres a difference though. I'm sure if a national tragedy happened here, people would be filling the streets too.
Dream on. Everyone would be running around pointing fingers screaming about how the police fire etc etc etc were to slow dimwitted etc etc.

Finger pointing would be primary over joining together. Look at the london bombings for an idea of how we would react.

caraddict

1,092 posts

143 months

Thursday 26th April 2012
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To be fair, the police used a lot of unnecessary time to gather and take take action regarding Utøya, but in general I think people realize that they did as best as they could. It was an attack like to other, after all - who trains in advance for a gunman rampage on an island with only kids??


Anyway, today in Oslo (and across the country):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17852176

"Some 40,000 people have gathered on an Oslo square to sing a popular peace song which mass killer Anders Behring Breivik condemned at his trial."

The Hypno-Toad

12,249 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Breivik is not a serial killer or a spree killer. He is insane by any normal standards but he has a plan and he is trying to stick to it. He wants to inspire and like it or not, he will.
Hate it when I'm right. Especially in this case.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19304814


sneijder

5,221 posts

233 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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The police in Oslo have been slammed for their performance.

The Chief of Police has left.

ALawson

7,814 posts

250 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Verdict due now, live on TV for those interested.

Sheets Tabuer

18,897 posts

214 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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So he's sane and given 21 years.

Not that the'll ever let him out.

MGZRod

8,086 posts

175 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Minimum of 10 apparently. Daft...

Finlandia

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7,803 posts

230 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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21 years, and "storage/custody". After the 21 years have passed, a custody of five years is added if he is still deemed to be dangerous, after that another five years and another.

Sheets Tabuer

18,897 posts

214 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Ruling him sane is going to open a can of worms with his manifesto.

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Ruling him sane is going to open a can of worms with his manifesto.
I'm glad you posted that - that was exactly what I was thinking when he was ruled sane. It gives credence to his manifesto and why he went loco - only he didn't go loco, they've ruled against that.

dundarach

4,963 posts

227 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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I'd never thought about the fact the the courts now say he's sane.....

Seems to me this is exactly what he wanted.


Jandywa

1,058 posts

150 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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How can anybody who murders 77 people be ruled as sane?

ALawson

7,814 posts

250 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Jandywa said:
How can anybody who murders 77 people be ruled as sane?
Is Bliar sane?

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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ALawson said:
Jandywa said:
How can anybody who murders 77 people be ruled as sane?
Is Bliar sane?
Was Osama Bin Laden sane?

ALawson

7,814 posts

250 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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That is the question, this is all about perspectives. He believes he was at war, he doesn't look at it as murder in the same was politicians and OBL went about their terrorism/warcraft. I am sure people living in the mountains in Afganistan just doing there thing that killed by Alied forces accidently could easily make the same accusations.

The world is mad and always will be.

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Friday 24th August 2012
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Wouldn't it be ironic that if in 21 years time when he's up for the opportunity of release, it's a Sharia court that decides.