Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
RicksAlfas said:
I was chatting to a finance guy the other day. He's had a good year. Plenty of SMEs investing in new kit. The general consensus amongst the businesses he visits (across all sectors) was to ignore the media and just get on with it.
In my experience economic "comment" in the media is as relevant to business as BBC Countryfile is to farming...Digga said:
limpsfield said:
Missed this one. Most posters in NPE will be unfamiliar with this publication, but it is notoriously left wing and basically the BBC's propaganda arm.
"British economy continues its sluggish start to the year with growth of 0.3% in the second quarter"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4731330/Br...
The problem is, the media in general, are being directed by economists and other 'experts' who have both an agenda and also a vested interest in the EU."British economy continues its sluggish start to the year with growth of 0.3% in the second quarter"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4731330/Br...
dazwalsh said:
Am I the only one who sees 0.3 as surprisingly good considering we are in one of the most confusing unknown economic shakeups we have ever known.
No.chow pan toon said:
So all of the media is directed sheep-like by lefty experts, even the right-wing media? Got it. Seems legit.
Seems to indicate no one on the right is smart enough to actually organise and control a vast media empire. Jeeze guys, go a bit easier on yourself. Maybe with more dedication to the cause you will get there one day.
T6 vanman said:
In 2010 the government was borrowing £1 for every £4 spent
In 2017 the government is borrowing £1 for every £15 spent.
Never here these figures in the spend spend spend BBC news
Annoyingly ... This should have been TM's election message ...EVERY f
kING DAY
Totally, totally agree. Hammond must have been tearing his hair our as May's jumped up little campaign managers kept him locked in a dark room and Corbyn was able to offer all sorts of bollx without even being challenges.In 2017 the government is borrowing £1 for every £15 spent.
Never here these figures in the spend spend spend BBC news
Annoyingly ... This should have been TM's election message ...EVERY f
kING DAY Never picked up by the BBC or by the mainstream media for some bizarre reason.
superlightr said:
T6 vanman said:
TB Completely agree with your sentiment but you are confusing government spend with GDP (2016=2.6T therefore 1.5%)
I always find the best way of explaining it as
in 2010 the government took £450B in tax/income but spent £600B therefore was borrowing £1 for every £4 spent
Now in 2017 the government is spending £784B (austerity??) and income is £731B (taxing rich & corporations more??) and the Deficit has reduced to £53B (or put another way borrowing £1 for every £15 spent)
Never here these figures in the spend spend spend BBC news
Annoyingly ... This should have been TM's election message ...EVERY fkING DAY it should have been look at these figures ... do you want to go back to borrowing 1 in 4?
so the government is redistributing the wealth.... how about they collect say £700B and spend £650B and you the £50 towards our national debt. Why can that not happen?I always find the best way of explaining it as
in 2010 the government took £450B in tax/income but spent £600B therefore was borrowing £1 for every £4 spent
Now in 2017 the government is spending £784B (austerity??) and income is £731B (taxing rich & corporations more??) and the Deficit has reduced to £53B (or put another way borrowing £1 for every £15 spent)
Never here these figures in the spend spend spend BBC news
Annoyingly ... This should have been TM's election message ...EVERY f
kING DAY it should have been look at these figures ... do you want to go back to borrowing 1 in 4?Is it too simplistic to restrict what the govt spends to be within the amount collected?
The fact that the county was borrowing £300,000 a minute in 2010 and that's now down to "only" £100,000 a minute also seems to have escaped the attentions of the press and the public.
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/88038545...
RicksAlfas said:
Biker 1 said:
Its a +1 from me in that 0.3% growth is quite remarkable, given the circumstances & that a little over a year ago, we were promised instant recession/doom etc if we voted leave.
I was chatting to a finance guy the other day. He's had a good year. Plenty of SMEs investing in new kit. The general consensus amongst the businesses he visits (across all sectors) was to ignore the media and just get on with it. So long as your mate's straw poll says it's all good then who are we to argue against an established and official national statistical organisation.
oyster said:
All's well then.
So long as your mate's straw poll says it's all good then who are we to argue against an established and official national statistical organisation.
I think what you fail to see and unfortunately the mainly left biased media positively discriminates against broadcasting is that 0.3% per quarter ...EVERY fSo long as your mate's straw poll says it's all good then who are we to argue against an established and official national statistical organisation.
kING QUARTER for the last 5~6 years is tremendous stable dare I prefix that with strong & ?? economy especially with the hospital pass of an economy left by Labour....As a previous poster has stated
Maybe instead of comparing this Qtr to the same Qtr in France or Portugal ... lets compare 3~5 year data,
Remember in 2010 the UK had 8.5% unemployment & France had 8% .. now the UK is at 4.? and France is at 10%
Nice to see yesterdays positive growth news story was buried deep down at about 6:23 in the flagship 6 oClock news ... yet any negative 'Tory' story is absolutely Top billing??????
Biker 1 said:
Its a +1 from me in that 0.3% growth is quite remarkable, given the circumstances & that a little over a year ago, we were promised instant recession/doom etc if we voted leave.
The fact that we are growing more slowly than other EU economies doesn't come as a surprise though; look at the starting point for economies such as Greece, Spain, Portugal et al: they were on the ropes not so long ago, & crashed way lower than the UK. People seem to think that if the growth rate of, say, Portugal, is higher than the UK, therefore they must be fabulously richer than us....
Thanks for that - it saved me having to type more or less exactly that.The fact that we are growing more slowly than other EU economies doesn't come as a surprise though; look at the starting point for economies such as Greece, Spain, Portugal et al: they were on the ropes not so long ago, & crashed way lower than the UK. People seem to think that if the growth rate of, say, Portugal, is higher than the UK, therefore they must be fabulously richer than us....
Great to see more positive news on unemployment level's in the UK today
UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
T6 vanman said:
Great to see more positive news on unemployment level's in the UK today
UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
It will be said to have "fallen" whereas if it were GDP or growth it would have "plummeted". Deficits are black-holes and rises that are seen to be undesirable are "skyrocketing"UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
T6 vanman said:
Great to see more positive news on unemployment level's in the UK today
UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
I remember a news reader years ago (may have been John Humphries) trying to get more "positive" stories in to the news to no avail. Unfortunately bad news sells, so any editor worth his salt will use that rather than a good news story as the lead.UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
motco said:
T6 vanman said:
Great to see more positive news on unemployment level's in the UK today
UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
It will be said to have "fallen" whereas if it were GDP or growth it would have "plummeted". Deficits are black-holes and rises that are seen to be undesirable are "skyrocketing"UK overall unemployment has reduced to 4.4% & under 25's at 12.3%
Compare that with a country that 10years ago was economically better than the UK but took the socialist path
France now overall at 9.6% & under 25's at 21.4% (lets not look at other economic factors like their GDP deficit)
EU overall at 9.1% & under 25's at 18.7%
Or other EU regions like
Spain overall at 17.1% & under 25's at 39.2%
I wonder if this will be a top news story on the flagship 6 o'clock news programme or buried deep down 15:20 minutes in??
As I've said before .... Yes not everything is perfect and rosy in the UK but you do not help the poor/ the NHS/ Social services etc by (using the EU ave figure) adding another 2 million unemployed to the UK population
I'm sure they'll attempt to manage this positive news by adding some negativity spin somewhere in the story
Surely any drop in unemployment is a rise in 'gig economy' zero hours contracts malarkey?
Or a staggering rise in breathtaking inequality?
And even bad news for 'just about managing' working families because now there's more competition for nursery places during working hours and not enough GP appointments after 18:00, or some other metric.
You cannot win. Best of all, a rise in the ecomomic well being will immediately impact the eco-zone negatively and we'll all have to feel guilty about the lack of doormice. Or badgers. Or the Arctic ice pack.
Leaving aside domestic politics, the BBC do seem to be enjoying Trump. Without him each news prog would be 10 minutes light. Not that he isn't good viewing - it's just they do struggle to explain what Trimp is all about (and being a politician is not his forte).
Or a staggering rise in breathtaking inequality?
And even bad news for 'just about managing' working families because now there's more competition for nursery places during working hours and not enough GP appointments after 18:00, or some other metric.
You cannot win. Best of all, a rise in the ecomomic well being will immediately impact the eco-zone negatively and we'll all have to feel guilty about the lack of doormice. Or badgers. Or the Arctic ice pack.
Leaving aside domestic politics, the BBC do seem to be enjoying Trump. Without him each news prog would be 10 minutes light. Not that he isn't good viewing - it's just they do struggle to explain what Trimp is all about (and being a politician is not his forte).
The Don of Croy said:
Surely any drop in unemployment is a rise in 'gig economy' zero hours contracts malarkey?
Or a staggering rise in breathtaking inequality?
And even bad news for 'just about managing' working families because now there's more competition for nursery places during working hours and not enough GP appointments after 18:00, or some other metric.
You cannot win. Best of all, a rise in the ecomomic well being will immediately impact the eco-zone negatively and we'll all have to feel guilty about the lack of doormice. Or badgers. Or the Arctic ice pack.
Leaving aside domestic politics, the BBC do seem to be enjoying Trump. Without him each news prog would be 10 minutes light. Not that he isn't good viewing - it's just they do struggle to explain what Trimp is all about (and being a politician is not his forte).
Yep the BBC "news" is all about polarizing opinion, in order to keep viewers tuning in. If you anger people they will become engaged.Or a staggering rise in breathtaking inequality?
And even bad news for 'just about managing' working families because now there's more competition for nursery places during working hours and not enough GP appointments after 18:00, or some other metric.
You cannot win. Best of all, a rise in the ecomomic well being will immediately impact the eco-zone negatively and we'll all have to feel guilty about the lack of doormice. Or badgers. Or the Arctic ice pack.
Leaving aside domestic politics, the BBC do seem to be enjoying Trump. Without him each news prog would be 10 minutes light. Not that he isn't good viewing - it's just they do struggle to explain what Trimp is all about (and being a politician is not his forte).
On the issue of Trump however, you're right, they do not know "what he is about" so to speak, but they advertise him to be far-right and as such there is a strong blatant agenda to counter his position on everything.
The BBC's agenda is to promote a left-wing position and hope that viewers (and their wider influence) eventually follow the liberal lefty mindset, but this is not working and it will never work.
All that happens is that people who are fed opinions by the "news" become polarized, society becomes polarized, and this is then seen on social media.
Polarization only leads to movements to an extreme position and resentment of large portions of society.
The majority of people are not stupid in this day and age, especially when there is so much information to be gained about events on the internet. There is of course a left vs right correction process that takes place every day on social media during the thousands of arguments that play out on forums, facebook, twitter etc.
But what an informed people do hate is being fed opinions that are one-sided in the assumption that they are stupid and should accept them. The BBC are way behind the times if they think their current form is doing them a benefit.
Radio 4 today talking about the American ship crash
They reported china says its shows America in decline well really? Does it even if they did is it worth reporting
They ended by saying americans allies look on with apprehension.
Do they did they actually say that? Who say that which Allie all of them? Or did you just fking make that up because I'm pretty sure no American allies said that.
Any and everything to attack the west and destabilise
They reported china says its shows America in decline well really? Does it even if they did is it worth reporting
They ended by saying americans allies look on with apprehension.
Do they did they actually say that? Who say that which Allie all of them? Or did you just f
king make that up because I'm pretty sure no American allies said that.Any and everything to attack the west and destabilise
Pesty said:
Radio 4 today talking about the American ship crash
They reported china says its shows America in decline well really? Does it even if they did is it worth reporting
They ended by saying americans allies look on with apprehension.
Do they did they actually say that? Who say that which Allie all of them? Or did you just fking make that up because I'm pretty sure no American allies said that.
Any and everything to attack the west and destabilise
Totally maoist sleeper agents.They reported china says its shows America in decline well really? Does it even if they did is it worth reporting
They ended by saying americans allies look on with apprehension.
Do they did they actually say that? Who say that which Allie all of them? Or did you just f
king make that up because I'm pretty sure no American allies said that.Any and everything to attack the west and destabilise
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