Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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Randy Winkman

16,125 posts

189 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Smiler. said:
I'll stake my life on the scriptwriters having a tick-box chart to ensure they included all the current "ishoos".
Do you think they shouldn't have topical dramas?

Digga

40,315 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Randy Winkman said:
Smiler. said:
I'll stake my life on the scriptwriters having a tick-box chart to ensure they included all the current "ishoos".
Do you think they shouldn't have topical dramas?
I think a lot of the stuff is topical and relevant to a very small subset of the overall, license-paying population.

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Randy Winkman said:
Smiler. said:
I'll stake my life on the scriptwriters having a tick-box chart to ensure they included all the current "ishoos".
Do you think they shouldn't have topical dramas?
Indeed. Grenfell comes to mind as a very topical similar event 'from real life'.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Digga said:
I think a lot of the stuff is topical and relevant to a very small subset of the overall, license-paying population.
What do you consider topical?

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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TTwiggy said:
Randy Winkman said:
Smiler. said:
I'll stake my life on the scriptwriters having a tick-box chart to ensure they included all the current "ishoos".
Do you think they shouldn't have topical dramas?
Indeed. Grenfell comes to mind as a very topical similar event 'from real life'.
Actually, you're both right.

My overemphasis on topicality was poor.

It was more the way those points were portrayed & the pandering to the stereotypical bent from one particular perspective.

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Smiler. said:
It was more the way those points were portrayed & the pandering to the stereotypical bent from one particular perspective.
But in the case of a drama set in an inner city area, isn't the stereotyping valid? To use Grenfell again we had a situation where a tower block, mostly full of poor immigrants, had (possibly) been subject to poor maintenance and shoddy building materials. In the aftermath of the event central government was seen as slow to react and the local council looked to be complicit in the disaster. Meanwhile, the local people (of all classes) came together in a show of community. Sounds like 'lefty stereotype 101', until you realise it's what actually happened.

Digga

40,315 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Colonial said:
Digga said:
I think a lot of the stuff is topical and relevant to a very small subset of the overall, license-paying population.
What do you consider topical?
What's that got to do with it? Not much that I consider topical is every broadcast. That's really not my argument or beef.

It's patently clear there are niche issues and topics being given airtime, in which a great many people have no interest. It's not necessarily all 'wrong' - it is not all social engineering and newspeak - but rather a lot of it is clearly aimed, intentionally or not, at a very narrow target audience.

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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Digga said:
What's that got to do with it? Not much that I consider topical is every broadcast. That's really not my argument or beef.

It's patently clear there are niche issues and topics being given airtime, in which a great many people have no interest. It's not necessarily all 'wrong' - it is not all social engineering and newspeak - but rather a lot of it is clearly aimed, intentionally or not, at a very narrow target audience.
I misread your post. Apologies.

Liokault

2,837 posts

214 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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I was listening to Radio 4 yesterday, I forget which programme, it’s just background noise.

Slot on the meaninglessness of management chat and business gobbledygook...the guest just randomly throws in that austerity was about the vested interest of the rich seeking a pretext to lower spending on the poor, totally unchallenged by the host.

I have complained to the BBC of bias before, I always get the response that they have reviewed and disagree.



HairyPoppins

702 posts

82 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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Liokault said:
I have complained to the BBC of bias before
A serial moaner, gotcha thumbup

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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HairyPoppins said:
Liokault said:
I have complained to the BBC of bias before
A serial moaner, gotcha thumbup
Nope, Standard issue letter.....fk off we know best and do not ever think we are

T6 vanman

3,066 posts

99 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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The main 6oClock news
Initial headline
Quote
"Tonight at 6 the grenfall tower enquiry opens, It's 3 months to the day since the disaster - at least 80 people were killed in the fire - will their friends and family get the justice their looking for"

Do you see it???

An enquiry does not prosecute or punish ... Justice is handled by court and judiciary not an enquiry.
An enquiry is to obtain facts

You say bias??? but it breeds and builds on the discontent of those who are saying "the big & powerful are hiding things" because no ones being charged...!

turbobloke

103,914 posts

260 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Scientist and Labour MP Graham Stringer said:
A disgraceful example of this impulse towards censorship came recently from the geneticist and BBC presenter Dr Adam Rutherford, who hosts the Radio 4 programme Inside Science.

Taking on the role of latter-day witch-finder, Dr Rutherford recently launched a campaign to prevent my re-appointment to the Science and Technology Committee of the Commons, on the grounds of my scepticism about climate change.

Through social media, he urged his followers to show their ‘righteous indignation’ by writing to their MPs.

‘It is not OK to have science so misrepresented in a democracy,’ he declared.

It was outrageous for a BBC presenter to behave in this manner. The Corporation is meant to be an impartial broadcaster, not a political lobbyist.
Rutherford has a good take on irony with his 'misrepresented' misrepresentation and the beeb would have been lovin' it.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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I have yet to hear the BBC look at the massive costs of Labour Party promises..........wonder why they are avoiding this analysis of such a key aspect of Labour policy at this time of tight government finances ?

wc98

10,391 posts

140 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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turbobloke said:
Rutherford has a good take on irony with his 'misrepresented' misrepresentation and the beeb would have been lovin' it.
i would argue rutherfords advocacy makes him unfit to work for a public broadcaster . given the bbc are the number one advocates for cagw in the uk i can see how he was perfect for the role.

turbobloke

103,914 posts

260 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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wc98 said:
turbobloke said:
Rutherford has a good take on irony with his 'misrepresented' misrepresentation and the beeb would have been lovin' it.
i would argue rutherfords advocacy makes him unfit to work for a public broadcaster .
Clearly so.

He should resign and go peddle his preferred mythology as Head of PR for the RS, following in the footsteps of BillyBob Ward.

Atomic12C

5,180 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
I have yet to hear the BBC look at the massive costs of Labour Party promises..........wonder why they are avoiding this analysis of such a key aspect of Labour policy at this time of tight government finances ?
They also never point out that the fact the UK has had to endure a long period of austerity measures is due to the state the previous Labour government left the UK in.

They always seem to paint the picture that its the bad bad Torys creating these spending cut policies for the sheer fun of it. Ignoring the plea of "the people" and not giving them the pay rises that demand, in actual fact it was the Labour government that left the purse empty with no money available for pay rises.



Tempest_5

603 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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What is quite interesting, especially after Brexit, is reading the Guardian and Telegraph websites one after the other. They are so biased in either direction that you even less sure of what the actual facts are than you started.

As a result of this I have taken to the BBC news as being the least bias of a bad bunch !!

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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LOL

Atomic12C

5,180 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Tempest_5 said:
As a result of this I have taken to the BBC news as being the least bias of a bad bunch !!
Then dear Sir, I'm afraid you'll be bitterly disappointed. wink


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