Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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Randy Winkman

16,121 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Even for a lefty like me, The Mash Report is now very tiresome. A shame because it showed some real promise at the start.

Shambler

1,189 posts

144 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Is it just me that thinks the BBC has far too many articles on feminism and hard done by transgenders along with the daily article about how awful Donald Trump and Brexit are? I realise that there may be the odd article about these issues but the BBC seems to be a tad overloaded with said articles.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Shambler said:
Is it just me that thinks the BBC has far too many articles on feminism and hard done by transgenders along with the daily article about how awful Donald Trump and Brexit are? I realise that there may be the odd article about these issues but the BBC seems to be a tad overloaded with said articles.
Oh Christ, Radio 4 can't even get through a programme about something like gardening or cookery without throwing some identity politics in.

loafer123

15,430 posts

215 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Shambler said:
Is it just me that thinks the BBC has far too many articles on feminism and hard done by transgenders along with the daily article about how awful Donald Trump and Brexit are? I realise that there may be the odd article about these issues but the BBC seems to be a tad overloaded with said articles.
I have given up with BBC News.

I use Reuters on my iPad and ITV News in the evening.

RicksAlfas

13,393 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
Even for a lefty like me, The Mash Report is now very tiresome. A shame because it showed some real promise at the start.
The news desk reports are quite funny, but I have to fast forward through Nish as he's not good for my blood pressure. mad

Shambler

1,189 posts

144 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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loafer123 said:
Shambler said:
Is it just me that thinks the BBC has far too many articles on feminism and hard done by transgenders along with the daily article about how awful Donald Trump and Brexit are? I realise that there may be the odd article about these issues but the BBC seems to be a tad overloaded with said articles.
I have given up with BBC News.

I use Reuters on my iPad and ITV News in the evening.
Sounds like a good plan.

motco

15,945 posts

246 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Shambler said:
Is it just me that thinks the BBC has far too many articles on feminism and hard done by transgenders along with the daily article about how awful Donald Trump and Brexit are? I realise that there may be the odd article about these issues but the BBC seems to be a tad overloaded with said articles.
You forget the great God Climate Change! For my sins, although I live in the sticks I fall in the London region for TV (Crystal Palace transmitter) and the 18:30hrs local news has become an ethnic minority programme presented by, OB reported by, and featuring mostly ethnic minority themes. I watch the Star Trek original series on Horror in preference. It's more realistic.

Randy Winkman

16,121 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
Randy Winkman said:
Even for a lefty like me, The Mash Report is now very tiresome. A shame because it showed some real promise at the start.
The news desk reports are quite funny, but I have to fast forward through Nish as he's not good for my blood pressure. mad
Actually, you've reminded me that it's his bits that are the problem. I think the rest is good.

bobbo89

5,207 posts

145 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
Actually, you've reminded me that it's his bits that are the problem. I think the rest is good.
Nish's whole career as a 'comedian' is based around making simple and obvious left wing Brexit jokes. Watch him on any other program and it's all he has and the only people laughing at him are other extreme lefties who agree with him, not because they find him funny!

Edited by bobbo89 on Wednesday 14th November 09:54

hutchst

3,699 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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desolate said:
He was on a full on rant that night.

His tweet about Carol Cadwalladr will probably lead to his BBC demise.
Aye, they like a wee dram in Paisley.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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AshVX220 said:
I guess with him being the age he is, I doubt he gives a st. Fire off a few shots before resigning or being forced to resign just to highlight the sort of crap he has to put up with that he disagrees with. It makes the news and people start to question the bias.
I got that impression as well.
He got it wrong in that tweet though, which is unusual for him as his tweets are normally really on point. (As is his political punditry)


hutchst

3,699 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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I think the BBC has some great new comedy. That documentary they had on World Service radio about the massive imbalance in same-sex divorces following legalisation of same sex marriage in many countries, without mentioning, alluding to or hinting at any suggestion that it was in any way due to the fact that both partners in the overwhelmingly numerous lesbian divorces are penally challenged had me in stitches.

AstonZagato

12,699 posts

210 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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I caught a bit of 'The Now Show' on the way home. There was a Northern comedian doing a 5 minute monologue that was destroying some ultra-right wing person. Now, this right wing person did sound like he was a disgusting individual (I'd never heard of the person and still have no idea who he is). But I did think it was a pretty extraordinary thing to broadcast on prime-time radio.

dxg

8,195 posts

260 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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AstonZagato said:
I caught a bit of 'The Now Show' on the way home. There was a Northern comedian doing a 5 minute monologue that was destroying some ultra-right wing person. Now, this right wing person did sound like he was a disgusting individual (I'd never heard of the person and still have no idea who he is). But I did think it was a pretty extraordinary thing to broadcast on prime-time radio.
But that's the Now Show's MO. The bias in the hosts is usually somewhat bearable, but the guests are given free reign to say whatever they want. And, boy, do they!

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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dxg said:
AstonZagato said:
I caught a bit of 'The Now Show' on the way home. There was a Northern comedian doing a 5 minute monologue that was destroying some ultra-right wing person. Now, this right wing person did sound like he was a disgusting individual (I'd never heard of the person and still have no idea who he is). But I did think it was a pretty extraordinary thing to broadcast on prime-time radio.
But that's the Now Show's MO. The bias in the hosts is usually somewhat bearable, but the guests are given free reign to say whatever they want. And, boy, do they!
I really struggle to listen to the Now Show these days; it comes over as rather self-indulgent, undergraduate, "oh my god, we're just so impossibly satirical and witty" sort of stuff, and a lot of their stuff and of their guests is a relentless tirade against the tories, which just gets wearing after a while.

Mind you, a lot of what is on the 6:30 "comedy" slot winds me up these days!



Edited by Europa1 on Wednesday 14th November 11:56

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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The problem with this thread is that it is posted by someone who has a right wing bias and therefore the bias of the BBC is shifted to the left more than it would be normally.

Like dancing it takes two to tango. Or not.

In the last week there was a post on this forum quoting a Breitbart news source, which makes me wonder, why is there not a


Political bias at Breitbart - something has to be done surely? thread

There are very few US based news channels that are in the neutral zone. So we put up with it or either read lots from cnn, to fox, to breibart to politico etc to try and get a feel. Or at least I do.

So rather than slagging off the BBC as they do not conform to your political view point, either read them and read others to balance it all out or just not read them at all.

The something must be done actually means you, not them wink

This was a party political broadcast on behalf of people who have half a brain and two eyes and one mouse finger and who does not quote the Daily Mail as Gospel as did the OP.

Here endeth the lesson... you no doubt will continue with your wailing and gnashings

Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 17th November 22:46

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Gandahar said:
The problem with this thread is that it is posted by someone who has a right wing bias and therefore the bias of the BBC is shifted to the left more than it would be normally.

Like dancing it takes two to tango. Or not.

In the last week there was a post on this forum quoting a Breitbart news source, which makes me wonder, why is there not a


Political bias at Breitbart - something has to be done surely? thread

There are very few US based news channels that are in the neutral zone. So we put up with it or either read lots from cnn, to fox, to breibart to politico etc to try and get a feel. Or at least I do.

So rather than slagging off the BBC as they do not conform to your political view point, either read them and read others to balance it all out or just not read them at all.

The something must be done actually means you, not them wink

This was a party political broadcast on behalf of people who have half a brain and two eyes and one mouse finger and who does not quote the Daily Mail as Gospel as did the OP.

Here endeth the lesson... you no doubt will continue with your wailing and gnashings

Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 17th November 22:46
I think the issue is the BBC is effectively state/publicly funded and most expect it to tread the middle ground.
You'd be forgiven if you thought it was funded by Tony Blairs behind the scenes remain campaign though of late.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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HarryW said:
Gandahar said:
The problem with this thread is that it is posted by someone who has a right wing bias and therefore the bias of the BBC is shifted to the left more than it would be normally.

Like dancing it takes two to tango. Or not.

In the last week there was a post on this forum quoting a Breitbart news source, which makes me wonder, why is there not a


Political bias at Breitbart - something has to be done surely? thread

There are very few US based news channels that are in the neutral zone. So we put up with it or either read lots from cnn, to fox, to breibart to politico etc to try and get a feel. Or at least I do.

So rather than slagging off the BBC as they do not conform to your political view point, either read them and read others to balance it all out or just not read them at all.

The something must be done actually means you, not them wink

This was a party political broadcast on behalf of people who have half a brain and two eyes and one mouse finger and who does not quote the Daily Mail as Gospel as did the OP.

Here endeth the lesson... you no doubt will continue with your wailing and gnashings

Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 17th November 22:46
I think the issue is the BBC is effectively state/publicly funded and most expect it to tread the middle ground.
You'd be forgiven if you thought it was funded by Tony Blairs behind the scenes remain campaign though of late.
Name a news outlet in the USA that is more middle of the road than the BBC? Any judgement of a news channel struggles against your own inbuilt bias.

The problem is that in the good old days, the news sources, in UK and USA just reported what the powers that be told them. It was verbatim reporting. Was it factual? The news companies in the USA decided not, from the Vietnam war onwards and then Watergate.

Those two things broke the cycle of just putting up what was said by officials. For bad or worse. It was good, but now it may have gone too far with news outlets posting opinion pieces in effect just because they cannot help it, so giving a bias and hence fake news claims.

Been a long time brewing.

You look at current news and you have the seed in this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqtehtSB0LI


America with its laws on freedom of speech still leads the world in how news is given to us. For example the CNN reporter, the judge and the president.

What's more worrying is social media giving news with no editorial content of all, but that is what we have in 2018.

I love the smell of fake news in the morning from social media....


tank

Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 17th November 23:22

zb

2,648 posts

164 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Gandahar said:
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America with its laws on freedom of speech still leads the world in how news is given to us. </snip>
No it doesn't. The unfettered propaganda of Fox is testament to the bullst cycle.

The Fairness doctrine was dismantled by Reagan, revoked in 1985 under the basis of "violation of free speech". Quite the opposite has happened.

Don't get me wrong the "balanced" nature of the BBC doesn't sit well with me. As a renowned professor of journalisms said; "One side says it's raining, another says its dry, your job is not to give them equal billing. Your job is to put your head out the fking window".



Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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zb said:
Gandahar said:
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America with its laws on freedom of speech still leads the world in how news is given to us. </snip>
No it doesn't. The unfettered propaganda of Fox is testament to the bullst cycle.

SNIP
Surely Fox not giving you the bullst cycle means my point stands on freedom of speech? You seem to be shooting yourself in the foot with your argument.


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