Employers might not be able to advertise "graduate" jobs

[Dr Jekyll]

martin84 said:

I believe theres laws against unqualified doctors in this country.

Not really. Unqualified vets yes. But you can set up as a medical expert and treat people without being a qualified MD.

EG
Homeopaths
Chiropracters
Gillian Mckeith

[lazystudent]

Dr Jekyll said:

martin84 said:

I believe theres laws against unqualified doctors in this country.

Not really. Unqualified vets yes. But you can set up as a medical expert and treat people without being a qualified MD.

EG
Homeopaths
Chiropracters
Gillian Mckeith

They're not doctors though are they! I suspect if you look closely, most of them will be selling "placebo" or "unproven" remedies or treatments. I know for a fact that the only thing that an osteopath can legally advertise a cure is for lower back pain. Everything else is 'unproven' and relies on people's sterotypes, misinformation etc. Clever marketing

Obviously people like Gillian McKeith are successful, but I'd argue that that's because of their entrepeneurial and marketing skills rather than being any sort of health expert...

[odyssey2200]

IMHO there are jobs where academic qualifications are a must (Doctors etc)
There are jobs where practical experience and credibility in the eyes of clients and peers is far more important than a piece of paper.

Sadly many employers get the two confused and ask for degrees where the successful candidate will have no experience in the role and lack credibility in the eyes of the company's customers.

I recently had an experience during a visit to a car dealer with the Area Manager for the manufacturer we work for.

I was discussing some very basic KPIs within the dealership and some under performance.
The Area Manager (who has a degree and is not new to the role) interrupted the conversation to ask what how the KPI was calculated.

Without going into specifics knowing this sort of thing is key to the success of his role.
He may have a degree but that dealer know thinks the guy is useless as he doesn't know what he is talking about.

His credibility when thadda-way >>>>>>>>> despite his academic qualifications,

[crofty1984]

phil-sti said:

I don't have a degree but I have 14 years experience, does that mean I shouldn't get a promotion? As already stated, a degree should be a way of fast tracking not a reason to stop other people from progressing.

If someone else has 14 years AND a degree, shouldn't they get the promotion ahead of you?
But I agree if it's not required to actually do the work at the next level and there's no competition it's a bit silly.

[Dr Jekyll]

lazystudent said:

They're not doctors though are they!

Dead right. My point is that you can set up to 'treat' people without qualifications. The only crime is if you pretend to be a qualified doctor when you aren't.

[Dr Jekyll]

crofty1984 said:

If someone else has 14 years AND a degree, shouldn't they get the promotion ahead of you?

No, not on that basis.