Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court
Discussion
Murph7355 said:
The Mad Monk said:
BlackLabel said:
The South American state and UK ministers are trying to find a way to evict the WikiLeaks founder from its London embassy'
Why don't they put his possessions into plastic bin bags and push him out of the door?Didn't Ecuador make him a citizen or diplomat or something? They appear to have given themselves a problem (which could never have been foreseen!). Presumably it's hard for them to now reverse it without legal issues... Cases of reap what you so all over the place on this one.
Burwood said:
They did indeed. They thought he’s stop for a much shorter period :hehe; I think it’s 6 years so far. I’m curious as to his mental state. No internet yikes
Assange is a wily fellow. He's certainly got a handful of VPN'd mobiles with internet access, he's being very careful not to antagonise the Embassy staff in fear of a one-way ticket to Gitmo. It was pretty much a coup for him when he got into the Embassy, and could spend his days shouting at his laptop, but six years in self-imposed exile has just made the USA more determined to grab him.
Slushbox said:
Assange is a wily fellow. He's certainly got a handful of VPN'd mobiles with internet access, he's being very careful not to antagonise the Embassy staff in fear of a one-way ticket to Gitmo.
It was pretty much a coup for him when he got into the Embassy, and could spend his days shouting at his laptop, but six years in self-imposed exile has just made the USA more determined to grab him.
I suspect it's just made everyone happy for him to stay where he is...hence the "difficulty" in evicting him It was pretty much a coup for him when he got into the Embassy, and could spend his days shouting at his laptop, but six years in self-imposed exile has just made the USA more determined to grab him.
I assume that as soon as he steps (or is thrown) over the threshold that the police will arrest him for breach of bail conditions and put home before the courts.
Will the US then apply for extradition on completion of whatever the UK courts give him?
Which US agency want him? A change of president should not make any difference if the FBI want him as that would be a clash of constitutional powers.
Will the US then apply for extradition on completion of whatever the UK courts give him?
Which US agency want him? A change of president should not make any difference if the FBI want him as that would be a clash of constitutional powers.
Jeff Sessions, Mike Pompeo and others have made some pretty strong statements re Assange. However as touched upon a few posts up Donald “I love Wikileaks” Trump probably thinks differently.
“Arresting Julian Assange is a priority, says US attorney general Jeff Sessions
Justice department ‘stepping up’ efforts to prosecute WikiLeaks founder as CNN reports that charges have been drawn up”
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
“CIA Director Mike Pompeo has called WikiLeaks a "hostile intelligence service," using his first public speech as spy agency chief to denounce leakers of classified information.
Pompeo, in an address at the Center for Strategic and International Studies think-tank on Thursday, called WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange "a fraud" and "a coward".”
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/a...
“Arresting Julian Assange is a priority, says US attorney general Jeff Sessions
Justice department ‘stepping up’ efforts to prosecute WikiLeaks founder as CNN reports that charges have been drawn up”
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
“CIA Director Mike Pompeo has called WikiLeaks a "hostile intelligence service," using his first public speech as spy agency chief to denounce leakers of classified information.
Pompeo, in an address at the Center for Strategic and International Studies think-tank on Thursday, called WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange "a fraud" and "a coward".”
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/a...
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I'm sure some of the things he's leaked will have had a similar impact on other people who did little to deserve it.
Very little sympathy for the bloke.
Any evidence for that? As far as I can tell Wikileaks have always been very careful with the black markers when releasing sensitive info.Very little sympathy for the bloke.
You asked for evidence of carelessness by Wikileaks when releasing information and I've provided it.
If your view on the potential damage of that, that when the media involved who've previous worked with Wikileaks have condemned it is "shrug" and a couple of links that say "Meh we don't think it was that bad" it's one way of looking at it I guess.
If your view on the potential damage of that, that when the media involved who've previous worked with Wikileaks have condemned it is "shrug" and a couple of links that say "Meh we don't think it was that bad" it's one way of looking at it I guess.
Halb said:
A lot has changed in the USA though.
True dat. Given that the Wikileaks supporters network is so large I wouldn't be suprised if Assange has a lot more inside information about what fate awaits him than the UK press. There's talk in Fleet St. that he must answer 'serious charges'; though so far, the only charge from the UK is jumping bail.
This will all be very interesting.
I can't believe he hasn't made efforts to leave the embassy.
If it was me, I would have tried to think of ways to be smuggled out of there in some rubbish bins or something
I'm sure he has enough supporters to fund him getting a private plane to land at a small unmanned airfield somewhere and pick him up.
I can't believe he hasn't made efforts to leave the embassy.
If it was me, I would have tried to think of ways to be smuggled out of there in some rubbish bins or something
I'm sure he has enough supporters to fund him getting a private plane to land at a small unmanned airfield somewhere and pick him up.
Jonesy23 said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I'm sure he has enough supporters to fund him getting a private plane to land at a small unmanned airfield somewhere and pick him up.
Not since he fked the last lot over when he ran off and they forfeited the bail. No one will spend actual money on him.Shafted his loyal supporters for almost £94,000.
This chap must be particularly annoyed:
"Vaughan Smith, the former British army captain who hosted Assange at his Norfolk home while he was on bail throughout 2011, and had promised to pay £20,000 if Assange skipped bail, was ordered to pay £12,000"
And:
"Sir John Sulston, a Nobel-prize-winning biologist, was ordered to pay £15,000 of the £20,000 he pledged"
Ouch.
Lord Marylebone said:
That's very true. I had forgotten about that dirty little stunt.
Shafted his loyal supporters for almost £94,000.
This chap must be particularly annoyed:
"Vaughan Smith, the former British army captain who hosted Assange at his Norfolk home while he was on bail throughout 2011, and had promised to pay £20,000 if Assange skipped bail, was ordered to pay £12,000"
And:
"Sir John Sulston, a Nobel-prize-winning biologist, was ordered to pay £15,000 of the £20,000 he pledged"
Ouch.
And the moral is?Shafted his loyal supporters for almost £94,000.
This chap must be particularly annoyed:
"Vaughan Smith, the former British army captain who hosted Assange at his Norfolk home while he was on bail throughout 2011, and had promised to pay £20,000 if Assange skipped bail, was ordered to pay £12,000"
And:
"Sir John Sulston, a Nobel-prize-winning biologist, was ordered to pay £15,000 of the £20,000 he pledged"
Ouch.
Don't pledge it unless you mean it and can afford to lose it.
The Mad Monk said:
And the moral is?
Don't pledge it unless you mean it and can afford to lose it.
I suspect most of those who contributed could afford to lose it, but that doesn't make it any less unpleasant for them.Don't pledge it unless you mean it and can afford to lose it.
But I agree with your sentiments. Don't bail out a dodgy rule-breaker unless you don't care about losing the bail money.
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