Muslim protests in UK
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Mermaid said:
What does that have to do with the misleading implication suggesting that we were discussing?968 said:
The other guy is talking b
ks. Islam, like Christianity is an evangelical religion. The cliche of domination is borne out of scare stories that date back as far as the crusades and the Moorish occupation of Spain. If Islam were entirely devoted to domination then the entire Christian and Jewish population of Spain would have been exterminated by the Moors. It wasn't, because that was not their aim. The same applies to the Indian subcontinent.
It's not bks. Islam, like Christianity is an evangelical religion. The cliche of domination is borne out of scare stories that date back as far as the crusades and the Moorish occupation of Spain. If Islam were entirely devoted to domination then the entire Christian and Jewish population of Spain would have been exterminated by the Moors. It wasn't, because that was not their aim. The same applies to the Indian subcontinent. ks. Islam seeks to dominate the world. That is the aim of the religion, and what it is designed to do. Islam and Christianity are similar in this respect that they are both proselytising religions. The fact that the entire Christian and Jewish populations of Spain were not exterminated by the Moors does not change that fact. Islam doesn't need to kill all unbelievers to dominate the world. Non-muslims are allowed to live as dhimmis under sharia and pay the jizya tax.kuzushi said:
It's not bks. Islam seeks to dominate the world. That is the aim of the religion, and what it is designed to do. Islam and Christianity are similar in this respect that they are both proselytising religions. The fact that the entire Christian and Jewish populations of Spain were not exterminated by the Moors does not change that fact. Islam doesn't need to kill all unbelievers to dominate the world. Non-muslims are allowed to live as dhimmis under sharia and pay the jizya tax.
So in summary, you're talking bks. Islam seeks to dominate the world. That is the aim of the religion, and what it is designed to do. Islam and Christianity are similar in this respect that they are both proselytising religions. The fact that the entire Christian and Jewish populations of Spain were not exterminated by the Moors does not change that fact. Islam doesn't need to kill all unbelievers to dominate the world. Non-muslims are allowed to live as dhimmis under sharia and pay the jizya tax.ks, as evidenced by history.kuzushi said:
It's not bks. Islam seeks to dominate the world. That is the aim of the religion, and what it is designed to do. Islam and Christianity are similar in this respect that they are both proselytising religions. The fact that the entire Christian and Jewish populations of Spain were not exterminated by the Moors does not change that fact. Islam doesn't need to kill all unbelievers to dominate the world. Non-muslims are allowed to live as dhimmis under sharia and pay the jizya tax.
So which muslim countries currently charge this tax? ks. Islam seeks to dominate the world. That is the aim of the religion, and what it is designed to do. Islam and Christianity are similar in this respect that they are both proselytising religions. The fact that the entire Christian and Jewish populations of Spain were not exterminated by the Moors does not change that fact. Islam doesn't need to kill all unbelievers to dominate the world. Non-muslims are allowed to live as dhimmis under sharia and pay the jizya tax.Google doesn't show any.
968 said:
kuzushi said:
It's not bks. Islam seeks to dominate the world. That is the aim of the religion, and what it is designed to do. Islam and Christianity are similar in this respect that they are both proselytising religions. The fact that the entire Christian and Jewish populations of Spain were not exterminated by the Moors does not change that fact. Islam doesn't need to kill all unbelievers to dominate the world. Non-muslims are allowed to live as dhimmis under sharia and pay the jizya tax.
So in summary, you're talking bks. Islam seeks to dominate the world. That is the aim of the religion, and what it is designed to do. Islam and Christianity are similar in this respect that they are both proselytising religions. The fact that the entire Christian and Jewish populations of Spain were not exterminated by the Moors does not change that fact. Islam doesn't need to kill all unbelievers to dominate the world. Non-muslims are allowed to live as dhimmis under sharia and pay the jizya tax.ks, as evidenced by history.Countdown said:
Regardless of that, my view is as long as it doesn’t contravene the law of the land or have a negative impact on anybody else people should be free to do as they choose.
On the other hand some people seem to get worried and upset about others choosing to live their life in a different way.
But thats the point, many muslims HAVE had a negative impact on many others, and in the process have used their religion as the justification for doing so.On the other hand some people seem to get worried and upset about others choosing to live their life in a different way.
Of course many non-muslims also have negative impacts on society too, but they don't use their religious brainwashing as the reason.
And I don't agree with others that the media is being unnecessarily alarmist either. I'm all for people living their lives in a different way, UNLESS THAT IS, it leads to flying airliners into buildings; blowing up London buses; blowing up Tube trains; trying to kill dozens in a ball of propane gas at a scottish airport; blowing up Spanish commuter trains; trying to detonate your shoe on an airliner; kidnapping and beheading numerous foreign aid workers that are there to do good; randomly killing UN staff; killing ambassadors and political figures in various parts of the world; blowing yourself and others to pieces in (too many to mention) Afghan, Iraqi and Libyan public places; blowing innocent people up in Mumbai and Bali; taking people hostage in a Moscow theatre and wiring them with explosives; detonating car bombs outside foreign embassys and hotels; arresting couples on the streets of Indonesia for displaying affection to each other in public; preaching hate and death to the west in British mosques; having the bare-faced gaul to burn the Union Jack in the capital city of the country that it doing its best to promote free speech and human rights in the oppressed s
t-holes where your forebears came from...I don't call being wary of muslims 'alarmist' - I call it 'self preservation' after being presented with the facts.
I'm afraid the f
ked up medieval state of mind of many who follow the 'religion of peace' is going to be around for a long time yet, with alot more grief along the way too. robmlufc said:
Also, killing people everytime a film or cartoon has a little laugh at your expense is a little alarming. Beheading artists in the streets is pretty worrying for the religion of peace. Burning poppies could be considered as having a negative impact I think.
You *are* aware that there are christian groups that have similar extreme views?Religious extremism is nasty and stupid regardless of religion. It may or may-not be the case that there are a higher percentage of extremism among Muslims than other religions, but we definitely devote a hugely disproportiante amount of interest to the muslim ones. And the odd thing that PH demonstrates is that people seem to believe the Muslim religion is "bad" because of the extremist minority, yet dont apply the same criteria to other religions.
Why is that?
I don't remember the Monty Python team being beheaded over The Life of Brian? Unless you know otherwise? You could always start a thread about Christian extremism if you wanted.
I think we devote so much time to Muslim extremists because they are the ones currently trying to hijack aircraft and blow joe public up on our own streets.
I think we devote so much time to Muslim extremists because they are the ones currently trying to hijack aircraft and blow joe public up on our own streets.
Edited by robmlufc on Tuesday 9th October 12:22
robmlufc said:
I don't remember the Monty Python team being beheaded over The Life of Brian? Unless you know otherwise? You could always start a thread about Christian extremism if you wanted.
I dont remember anyone being beheaded for doing a cartoon.Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
blindswelledrat said:
I dont remember anyone being beheaded for doing a cartoon.
Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
Well they had a go at beheading anyway, I guess that makes it ok.
Perhaps you should brush up on current affairs eh.
blindswelledrat said:
robmlufc said:
I don't remember the Monty Python team being beheaded over The Life of Brian? Unless you know otherwise? You could always start a thread about Christian extremism if you wanted.
I dont remember anyone being beheaded for doing a cartoon.Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_%28film...
Cobnapint said:
Countdown said:
Regardless of that, my view is as long as it doesn’t contravene the law of the land or have a negative impact on anybody else people should be free to do as they choose.
On the other hand some people seem to get worried and upset about others choosing to live their life in a different way.
But thats the point, many muslims HAVE had a negative impact on many others, and in the process have used their religion as the justification for doing so.On the other hand some people seem to get worried and upset about others choosing to live their life in a different way.
Of course many non-muslims also have negative impacts on society too, but they don't use their religious brainwashing as the reason.
robmlufc said:
blindswelledrat said:
I dont remember anyone being beheaded for doing a cartoon.
Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
Well they had a go at beheading anyway, I guess that makes it ok.
Perhaps you should brush up on current affairs eh.
Countdown said:
robmlufc said:
blindswelledrat said:
I dont remember anyone being beheaded for doing a cartoon.
Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)Could you link this extraordinary event that I have missed?
Well they had a go at beheading anyway, I guess that makes it ok.
Perhaps you should brush up on current affairs eh.
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