Cocktail of liquid nitrogen - Girl has stomach removed
Discussion
tonyvid said:
I can't imagine what it must be like living without a stomach - how does that work? Stupid or not, it must've been complete agony.
I might be wrong, but I think if you have had your stomach removed you need to eat small meals very often throughout the day as you can't "hold" large volumes of food like we can after a "normal" meal. At least, I think that is what my lecturer said.
As for that girl, I can't say I would put all of the blame on her. Yes, it was a very stupid thing to do and liquid nitrogen is very dangerous, but she can't really be blamed for drinking something she bought in a bar. If it was some random recipe from the internet then fair enough, that would be asking for trouble, but I would have thought it is fairly reasonable to assume a drink you order at a bar won't freeze your insides and nearly kill you.
If she was out for her 18th birthday, then she / her friends probably ordered the most "exotic" drink on the menu for a bit of fun. Not exactly abnormal behaviour, is it?
turbobloke said:
If I was stupid enough to drink a reasonable amount of liquid nitogen I would expect the possibility of collapsing and not waking up.
Where is this credulous trust in ignorant unqualified people derived from?
I had always realised Darwin had it easy, but not so easy.
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Was the drink advertised as containing liquid nitrogen? She might not have any idea that there was liquid nitrogen used in making her cocktail?Where is this credulous trust in ignorant unqualified people derived from?
I had always realised Darwin had it easy, but not so easy.
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mrmr96 said:
turbobloke said:
Faced at her age with an offer of a drink with liquid nitrogen freshly poured into it, I might have died but only from laughing at the f
kwit expecting me to drink from it.
Not everyone knows the dangerous of a substance like this - so if the barman/her mates told her it was safe then her error was only in being too trusting.kwit expecting me to drink from it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOIP6gN_Dxc
And there's lots of clips of semi-solid cocktails made with liquid nitrogen on youtube. My guess is busy club/inexperienced bartender= gut full of nitrogen which either froze or exploded through her stomach.
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ad551 said:
I think it's very unfair to blame her for this. If you were at a bar on your 18th birthday, having a fun night out, and ordered a drink - no matter how gimmicky it was - you'd expect it to be safe.
WTF?Not a chance in hell even with hell frozen to liquid nitrogen temperatures.
ad551 said:
You wouldn't expect to be waking up in a hospital bed a few hours later without a stomach and having to live with the consequences for the rest of your life.
If I was stupid enough to drink a reasonable amount of liquid nitogen I would expect the possibility of collapsing and not waking up.Where is this credulous trust in ignorant unqualified people derived from?
I had always realised Darwin had it easy, but not so easy.
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about this one. I hope one day you have your own 18 year old daughter and then maybe you could sympathise a little. It is naive and arrogant in the extreme to expect this girl to know what she was doing. You should be ashamed of yourself.I hope the bar is put out of business and whoever was esponsible for devising and selling this drink spends a long time in prison. They deserve nothing else.
I don't think it's reasonably to blame the girl tbh.
If I walk into a restaurant I assume that there are various rules and regulations that they have to follow that means they can't serve me something that is likely to kill me, barring common sense things like if I have a nut allergy and order the peanut surprise.
I'm assuming the devil will be in the detail here i.e. just how was it advertised and sold, but from what's in the article I'd be looking fairly and squarely at the place she was drinking in.
If I walk into a restaurant I assume that there are various rules and regulations that they have to follow that means they can't serve me something that is likely to kill me, barring common sense things like if I have a nut allergy and order the peanut surprise.
I'm assuming the devil will be in the detail here i.e. just how was it advertised and sold, but from what's in the article I'd be looking fairly and squarely at the place she was drinking in.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I don't think it's reasonably to blame the girl tbh.
If I walk into a restaurant I assume that there are various rules and regulations that they have to follow that means they can't serve me something that is likely to kill me, barring common sense things like if I have a nut allergy and order the peanut surprise.
I'm assuming the devil will be in the detail here i.e. just how was it advertised and sold, but from what's in the article I'd be looking fairly and squarely at the place she was drinking in.
wonder if they have a get out clause stating order at own risk or a waiver you sign, like when eating other stuff that can kill you if prepared wrongly.If I walk into a restaurant I assume that there are various rules and regulations that they have to follow that means they can't serve me something that is likely to kill me, barring common sense things like if I have a nut allergy and order the peanut surprise.
I'm assuming the devil will be in the detail here i.e. just how was it advertised and sold, but from what's in the article I'd be looking fairly and squarely at the place she was drinking in.
Du1point8 said:
wonder if they have a get out clause stating order at own risk or a waiver you sign, like when eating other stuff that can kill you if prepared wrongly.
Selling someone vast quantities of alcohol, and then asking them to sign a waver doesn't sound like something that would stand up in court to me.REALIST123 said:
Frankly you're being a about this one.
Your view, which you're entitled to, but you are of course way off the mark about this one.
and by expressing your view in the form of an abusive remark you are clearly being anything but a yourself.Even so, if you somehow think I give a Flying Farquhar what you or anybody else thinks of how I view this collective lunacy...then you're entitled to that misguided opinion also.
REALIST123 said:
I hope one day you have your own 18 year old daughter and then maybe you could sympathise a little.
One day?! That comes close to being asked for ID when buying room temperature alcohol. Thanks!Personalising the argument in this way offers nothing, and fails every time. Not least after I did clearly state I had some sympathy, but more respect for Darwin's determination. Did you miss that?
All my 'children' are well over 18 years of age. Only on one occasion did any of them come anywhere remotely close to winning a Darwin award, though it was unlikely to be fatal barring some complication from the 5 hours of surgery or whatever time it took for the surgeon to put relevant bits of them back together - on that occasion they had my love and support all the way but no sympathy. Maybe you can spot the difference, they managed it.
REALIST123 said:
It is naive and arrogant in the extreme to expect this girl to know what she was doing.
Unlike your arrogance in thinking your view has to be the correct one? OK.REALIST123 said:
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Guess what...I'm not 
REALIST123 said:
I hope...whoever was esponsible for devising and selling this drink spends a long time in prison. They deserve nothing else.
Wow, we agree on something. It's too early to say anything about the bar. Maybe (though I doubt it) the person who prepared and served the drink had been trained to follow a procedure for this idiotic beverage but failed to follow it. Yes, very unlikely. The training anyway.There's still no reason to change my view...as such, maybe future insults from Darwin candidate apologists will be both novel and humorous. Yes, very unlikely.
TB, you're off-base here.
Bottom line: if you're serving drinks to people, don't be surprised when they drink the drinks you serve them, which are for them to drink.
The bar fked up, and in grand style.
Blaming the victim, in this case, is bang out of order.
It is absolutely reasonable to expect that a drink, bought in a bar, handed to you by barstaff, is safe to drink (notwithstanding the obvious caveats like "am I actually genuinely allergic to alcohol, or the peanuts, or whatever?")
Any other analysis would likely be met with gales of laughter in court, and rightly so.
Bottom line: if you're serving drinks to people, don't be surprised when they drink the drinks you serve them, which are for them to drink.
The bar f
ked up, and in grand style.Blaming the victim, in this case, is bang out of order.
It is absolutely reasonable to expect that a drink, bought in a bar, handed to you by barstaff, is safe to drink (notwithstanding the obvious caveats like "am I actually genuinely allergic to alcohol, or the peanuts, or whatever?")
Any other analysis would likely be met with gales of laughter in court, and rightly so.
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