Is this really worth 12 weeks in prison?

Is this really worth 12 weeks in prison?

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FunkDokta

111 posts

140 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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oyster said:
Has the verdict been made to protect society?
Yes

Has it eroded human rights?
No.

Perhaps my only concern is the length of the sentence.
Oi mate..... You forgot the smiley!

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Dr_Gonzo said:
He posted it on Facebook, which only people who are 'Friends' with him will see. If they didn't like it they can 'un-friend' him. So essentially it was a joke (albeit a 'sick' joke) that was shared between friends; it's hardly a 'public' place.
If friends posted though it opens it up to a wider audience, friends of friends etc. I would view that as a public place.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

161 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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http://www.anorak.co.uk/335981/news/stupid-matthew...

Stupid Matthew Wood sentenced by stupid court for stupid April Jones joke

MATTHEW Wood has appeared at Chorley Magistrates’ Court. He wrote something on Facebook about April Jones and Madeleine McCann that social media narks and police didn’t like. A “vigilante mob” of censorious troll-hunters arrived at Mr Wood’s home. Wood was arrested.

Matthew Wood is a dhead. But to make him a criminal is wrong. In court, he admitted making wrongheaded comments that caused offence. (What couldn’t offend someone?). He says he was inspired to say something horrible by Sickipedia – a website that “trades in sick jokes”.

Martina Jay, prosecuting, told the court:

“When interviewed by police he fully admitted he posted messages about the two missing children. He started this idea when he was at a friend’s house when drinking, saw a joke on Sickipedia and changed it slightly. He said he did it in a bid to make people think his account had been hacked. He said it got out of hand and he was drunk while doing it.”

Wood has pleaded guilty to sending by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive.

Were you offended? We’d show you what Wood said but it’s so offensive that the media and courts have not included it in official reports. The news has been censored. You – you slack-jawed fool – cannot hear what Wood says. You might repeat it. And that would be awful. You could cause offence, even unwittingly, and be arrested for it.

We’d have liked it had Wood laughed in court and screamed that intolerance will not be tolerated. But he’s an idiot. He deleted his stupid message. And defending solicitor David Edwards told the bench:

“What struck me immediately is that the enormity of what he has done has finally sunk in.”

The enormity of a pisspoor joke on his own Facebook page?

“He did seem genuinely remorseful and regretful for what he had done. At the time he posted these comments not once did he think he would find himself where he is today.”

Wood is out of touch with the mores of modern life. He failed to relise that the righteous and grasses want to limit free speech. They do not seek to mock the idiotic, or ignore it, they want to highlight it, use it to show how right-on they are.

Mr Edwards added:

“He started receiving derogatory replies almost immediately and then came threats. The reality is that before long a number of people realised what he had done and sought him out.”

The righteous attacked him for what he said.

“He has to live with this because of his stupidity.”

His stupidity. The police’s stupidity. The narks’ stupidity. The court’s stupidity.

“His future is uncertain. He does not know whether he can go back to his home address.”

He’s going to be sentenced today.

UPDATE: Magistrates said they had “no choice” but to send Matthew Wood to prison for 12 weeks., He’s 19. He will do time in a young offenders’ institute.

Reports are that around “50 members of the public cheered as the sentence was read out”.

Bloody hell. Those 50 are at large. Be afraid!

iwantagta

1,323 posts

145 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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OK.

You can NOT post insensitive jokes about 1 familys loss to your friends and family, which lets face it if not publicised in the press would be very unlikely to ever have been heard by said family.

You CAN stand around with "Soldiers Burn in Hell" placards by a funeral procession for service men.

Seems fked up to me.



dfen5

2,398 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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I suspect the sentence was for his own protection. Makes no odds those saying he can say what he wants when you've got 50 people ouside your house wanting to kick your fking teeth in. Whatever he posted, it's got him marked. Open your gob like that and you'd better be ready to either fight or take flight.

A few of these 'shock' comedians get the same handed out from time to time.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Its the 50 who want to kick his teeth in that should be arrested.

dfen5

2,398 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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RedTrident said:
Its the 50 who want to kick his teeth in that should be arrested.
Aren't they free to express their opinion then?

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Is it a coincidence that Sikipedia is offline today?

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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dfen5 said:
RedTrident said:
Its the 50 who want to kick his teeth in that should be arrested.
Aren't they free to express their opinion then?
"Yeah, but no, but yeah, but that's different, but no, but YOU'RE SILLY!" Is how the argument goes after this question.

Then everyone (including those purpooting to be pro-complete freedom of speech) agrees that there should be limitations on free speech, and that different people have different views on where the line should be drawn.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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dfen5 said:
RedTrident said:
Its the 50 who want to kick his teeth in that should be arrested.
Aren't they free to express their opinion then?
What by assaulting someone? 50 to 1. I don't recall this lad being convicted because he threatened violence on someone else.

Lets march on someones house because someone said something we disagreed with. Seems to remind me of them idiots that were rioting and killing people because of that stupid youtube Islam video. It wasn't right then and it isn't right now.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

163 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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dfen5 said:
RedTrident said:
Its the 50 who want to kick his teeth in that should be arrested.
Aren't they free to express their opinion then?
Yes, they can comdemn and respond to his joke by expressing their displeasure.

What they can't do is kick his teeth in.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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RedTrident said:
What by assaulting someone? 50 to 1. I don't recall this lad being convicted because he threatened violence on someone else.

Lets march on someones house because someone said something we disagreed with. Seems to remind me of them idiots that were rioting and killing people because of that stupid youtube Islam video. It wasn't right then and it isn't right now.
You're confusing rioting and killing and assaulting people, with people merely saying some things.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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simoid said:
You're confusing rioting and killing and assaulting people, with people merely saying some things.
No I'm not. If i make a threat to assault someone or perhaps encourage someone else to assault someone then i expect to be arrested.

If i post a sick joke on my facebook page i think there is something wrong with our legal system if i am arrested.

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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RedTrident said:
If i post a sick joke on my facebook page i think there is something wrong with our legal system if i am arrested.
Fair enough.

dfen5

2,398 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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RedTrident said:
No I'm not. If i make a threat to assault someone or perhaps encourage someone else to assault someone then i expect to be arrested.

If i post a sick joke on my facebook page i think there is something wrong with our legal system if i am arrested.
But this is the real world. By posting a sick joke, you're risking the wrath of the mob. Would he have made that joke in Machynlleth today? No. He thought it oh-so-clever to try and be cool and controversial behind his keyboard. Not so clever now, is he?

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

161 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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if we lock up every stupid teenager who thought he was oh-so-clever and cool and controversial behind his keyboard then the prisons would be even more over-crowded than they already are

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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rover 623gsi said:
if we lock up every stupid teenager who thought he was oh-so-clever and cool and controversial behind his keyboard then the prisons would be even more over-crowded than they already are
Difficult to argue with that.

Anyone agree with the 12 week custodial sentence?

bstb3

4,056 posts

158 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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dfen5 said:
RedTrident said:
No I'm not. If i make a threat to assault someone or perhaps encourage someone else to assault someone then i expect to be arrested.

If i post a sick joke on my facebook page i think there is something wrong with our legal system if i am arrested.
But this is the real world. By posting a sick joke, you're risking the wrath of the mob. Would he have made that joke in Machynlleth today? No. He thought it oh-so-clever to try and be cool and controversial behind his keyboard. Not so clever now, is he?
If he went to Machynlleth and made the joke, he might reasonably expect to cause offence to people genuinely affected by the girls disappearance and bear the brunt of the outcome. Cause and effect. If he got a beating no one would be too surprised, and probably not too many tears would be shed.

He didn't do that. He posted some sick jokes on his own Facebook page -he didn't seek out the people involved to target them with it. He was just posting crap whilst drunk, for whatever reason. It's not admirable, big or clever, he is probably a bottom feeder of the highest order, but hardly the only one in society. 12 weeks is insane, even if just for the precedent it sets. Hiding behind "it's for his own protection" is mental. When did the mob decide justice? Punishment ought to fit the crime. This doesn't, not by a long shot.

Gareth79

7,661 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Shaw Tarse said:
Is it a coincidence that Sikipedia is offline today?
Very likely not a coincidence. They have put up big banners before after previous news reports, and for an easy life this time around I guess they thought they would make sure it's inaccessible to reporters and "outraged" people. (they might well be taking the opportunity to do an upgrade at their leisure too, I don't blame them)

maxfan

1,622 posts

143 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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i know that they aqre somewhat different etc and no doubt that PH'ers will say so but i couldnt help be drawn by the difference in the sentencing with this one:

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local/faceb...

Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier in the thread i will confess to not having looked back on the thread to check