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anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Alpinestars said:
I think he was 18 at the time? So an adult.
Yes I know.

I can't remember whether they take into consideration the age or if 18 is a hard cut off point in law.


Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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desolate said:
Alpinestars said:
I think he was 18 at the time? So an adult.
Yes I know.

I can't remember whether they take into consideration the age or if 18 is a hard cut off point in law.
I think he’s having his cake and eating it. Apparently led by his Islamic education, and yet forgot to attend the class on out of marriage sex.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Alpinestars said:
I think he’s having his cake and eating it. Apparently led by his Islamic education, and yet forgot to attend the class on out of marriage sex.
I completely agree and he is obviously full of st.

I was just asking if the standard sentence for an 18 year old having sex with a 13 year old involves custody.

Lindun

1,965 posts

62 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Am I missing something? This is six and a half years old news. Is this the ultimate in deflection?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Lindun said:
Am I missing something? This is six and a half years old news. Is this the ultimate in deflection?
Those that only want to discuss “gangs” are conspicuous by their absence on this one.

Jazzy Jag

3,422 posts

91 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
desolate said:
I am pretty sure this case had a thread at the time - I certainly remember it being discussed.

Would it be usual for a teen to be sent down for this?
Thanks. I've just noticed that near the top of the article it says:

Published: 25 January 2013 | Updated: 2 February 2016

So do we need it to be posted here now?
I apologise for the age of the article.
I hadn't spotted it when I posted it as it popped up in a FB feed today.

The facts of the case and the accepted causes behind his actions still stands and IMHO is relevant to the thread.

Lindun

1,965 posts

62 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Jazzy Jag said:
I apologise for the age of the article.
I hadn't spotted it when I posted it as it popped up in a FB feed today.

The facts of the case and the accepted causes behind his actions still stands and IMHO is relevant to the thread.
No it’s not. It’s over six years old and serves no purpose on this thread.

Jazzy Jag

3,422 posts

91 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Lindun said:
Jazzy Jag said:
I apologise for the age of the article.
I hadn't spotted it when I posted it as it popped up in a FB feed today.

The facts of the case and the accepted causes behind his actions still stands and IMHO is relevant to the thread.
No it’s not. It’s over six years old and serves no purpose on this thread.
IYHO

Except that certain types of schooling is accepted mitigation for his criminality and attitudes.

Lindun

1,965 posts

62 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Jazzy Jag said:
IYHO

Except that certain types of schooling is accepted mitigation for his criminality and attitudes.
Why is it relevant to drag a story that’s so old up and discuss it when there’s a much more recent set of issues to discuss, not least the case from yesterday?

I can hazard a guess, but you’ll probably get all offended if I say it.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 6th July 2019
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Jazzy Jag said:
IYHO

Except that certain types of schooling is accepted mitigation for his criminality and attitudes.
At least use a bit of intelligence. Don’t you think he would have also been schooled in no sex before marriage etc? Sounds like a convenient excuse which the Judge bought.

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Sunday 7th July 2019
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Lindun said:
Jazzy Jag said:
IYHO

Except that certain types of schooling is accepted mitigation for his criminality and attitudes.
Why is it relevant to drag a story that’s so old up and discuss it when there’s a much more recent set of issues to discuss, not least the case from yesterday?

I can hazard a guess, but you’ll probably get all offended if I say it.
Agreed. This is a diversion from the main topic and progression of the thread's discussion.

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

224 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Alpinestars said:
All religions are man made. Now with that out of the way, what’s the religious link. With some brevity please, rather than throwing lots of letters at the screen.
https://quran.com/4/34

There are many others but this PH box does not provide enough text space..

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Transmitter Man said:
Alpinestars said:
All religions are man made. Now with that out of the way, what’s the religious link. With some brevity please, rather than throwing lots of letters at the screen.
https://quran.com/4/34

There are many others but this PH box does not provide enough text space..
Where’s the religious link that the perpetrators have used their religions as justification?

Where’s the passages in the Quran allowing them to drink and take drugs?

Have you read the Bible or are you cherry picking?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Transmitter Man said:
https://quran.com/4/34

There are many others but this PH box does not provide enough text space..
John 11:35

Countdown

39,878 posts

196 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Transmitter Man said:
https://quran.com/4/34

There are many others but this PH box does not provide enough text space..
Just to clarify - is that your evidence that grooming was linked to religion, or that Islam contains some misogynistic advice?

It would be good to know what point you’re trying to make.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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I think Baroness Cox talks a lot of sense and is worth a read.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2019-05-14/deb...

chunder27

2,309 posts

208 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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She does indeed but it is the same story we have all heard before and no-one really is prepared to do too much for fear or being labelled racist.

I think her comparison with an earthquake in Rotherham creating 1400 victims was magnificent and truly shows the lack of interest most organisations have in dealing with this outrage.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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I'm surprised by the lack of comments in here about Epstein.
Now there's an abuse gang - I'd have thought this thread would be all over it.

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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vonuber said:
I'm surprised by the lack of comments in here about Epstein.
Now there's an abuse gang - I'd have thought this thread would be all over it.
Interesting point. There have been constant allegations of fairly widespread abuse of power within the entertainment industry. In a way, it's been hidden in plain sight, as the term "casting couch" has had distasteful connotations for decades.

ETA link to story: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-e...

Edited by Digga on Wednesday 10th July 11:44

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th July 2019
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vonuber said:
I'm surprised by the lack of comments in here about Epstein.
Now there's an abuse gang - I'd have thought this thread would be all over it.
Well to be fair von, you've only just mentioned it yourself. smile