North Korea - how serious should we take them?

North Korea - how serious should we take them?

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speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

243 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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I've always wondered just how well they could actually mobilise this army of a million.

Especially once we’ve sprayed their agricultural land, put a few bombs through their food stores and fertilizer plants and damaged most major road and rail links (in a mountainous country). Even by simply holding them at the DMZ (or even giving ground) and using air superiority for a very short period it may be possible to just take them out at the knees and avoid the need to invade completely.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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speedy_thrills said:
I've always wondered just how well they could actually mobilise this army of a million.

Especially once we’ve sprayed their agricultural land, put a few bombs through their food stores and fertilizer plants and damaged most major road and rail links (in a mountainous country). Even by simply holding them at the DMZ (or even giving ground) and using air superiority for a very short period it may be possible to just take them out at the knees and avoid the need to invade completely.
Omni directional thinking. Take them off at the knees, what do you think happens then?



stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Mojocvh said:
speedy_thrills said:
I've always wondered just how well they could actually mobilise this army of a million.

Especially once we’ve sprayed their agricultural land, put a few bombs through their food stores and fertilizer plants and damaged most major road and rail links (in a mountainous country). Even by simply holding them at the DMZ (or even giving ground) and using air superiority for a very short period it may be possible to just take them out at the knees and avoid the need to invade completely.
Omni directional thinking. Take them off at the knees, what do you think happens then?
I'd have thought that was bloody obvious mate. We go in and are welcomed as heroes, spend a few years being feted by the locals whilst we improve their infrastructure.
Then we make them accept democracy and freedom.
Job jobbed, dunno why no-one thought of it before...


jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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I expect the locals think who ever may be unfortunate enough to have to cross the DMZ are baby eaters and foreign devil pig dogs that have to be killed at all costs.

Zyp

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14,696 posts

189 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Seems to be taking an unprecedented turn for the worse, according to some 'experts' -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21972936

This article has an interesting insight - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21950069

I have bad feelings about this - I really think NK are going to start an unholy fk up!

Still, nowt any of us can do about it.

Edited by Zyp on Friday 29th March 08:11

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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What do they have to gain?
Are the usually threats and blackmail tactics wearing thin and new options being explored?

North Korea is in no position to make threats.

I am wondering to myself if this is not a ruse designed by China as a distraction, where they can act as the "good guys", thus preventing "chaos" on the Korean peninsula.

China is being encircled by US bases and allies, so we should be looking at the bigger picture.

I don't think this is about Korea.

loafer123

15,440 posts

215 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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The real trouble is that as time goes by, they get more dangerous weapons, so it might actually be a good thing to have a conflict now before they get really scary on a global scale.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Wonder how much input Iran are having here, wonder if China will have any influence.

Steameh

3,155 posts

210 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Zyp said:
Seems to be taking an unprecedented turn for the worse, according to some 'experts' -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21972936

This article has an interesting insight - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21950069

I have bad feelings about this - I really think NK are going to start an unholy fk up!

Still, nowt any of us can do about it.

Edited by Zyp on Friday 29th March 08:11
No matter how crazy they may seem, no matter how stupid, remember that the North Korean Leaders very intelligent. They are on to a good thing where they are, lap of luxury while their population starve, but live in constant fear of outside and inside enemies.

Their leaders know that they can never be a superpower, they not onlt wouldn't be allowed to by any nation, they don't have the capability.

So why not make a few 'crazy' remarks and threats, if it keeps the populus under control. Besides, in a few months, the leadership can improve their standard of living by descalating the conflict and having their sanctions removed.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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I' assume the US have a full on conflict plan with countless scenarios and frankly at the moment NK are practically declaring war on the USA.

This has to be an easy case of wiping them out properly. Why not?

Its a very serious threat you take that and you act - no action shows weakness.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Steameh said:
Zyp said:
Seems to be taking an unprecedented turn for the worse, according to some 'experts' -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21972936

This article has an interesting insight - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21950069

I have bad feelings about this - I really think NK are going to start an unholy fk up!

Still, nowt any of us can do about it.

Edited by Zyp on Friday 29th March 08:11
No matter how crazy they may seem, no matter how stupid, remember that the North Korean Leaders very intelligent. They are on to a good thing where they are, lap of luxury while their population starve, but live in constant fear of outside and inside enemies.

Their leaders know that they can never be a superpower, they not onlt wouldn't be allowed to by any nation, they don't have the capability.

So why not make a few 'crazy' remarks and threats, if it keeps the populus under control. Besides, in a few months, the leadership can improve their standard of living by descalating the conflict and having their sanctions removed.


jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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He can only talk the talk for so long before he has to walk the walk

MX7

7,902 posts

174 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Dimbo said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
North Korea = Israel

The local nutters in their repective regions, in each case silently backed by a superpower. They are never told to stop misbehaving because their "masters" find them convenient.
Ozzie, are you trying to break the world record for the most ill informed and stupid post of all time? If you are, well done.
+1

Grenoble

50,469 posts

155 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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speedy_thrills said:
I've always wondered just how well they could actually mobilise this army of a million.
They can't. They haven't got the fuel or the supply lines. If they mobilised it would be simple to destroy what little fuel dumps they have = immobilised army.

Standing armies are useless against advanced weaponry. Even if you have a million of them.

BoRED S2upid

19,698 posts

240 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Welshbeef said:
I' assume the US have a full on conflict plan with countless scenarios and frankly at the moment NK are practically declaring war on the USA.

This has to be an easy case of wiping them out properly. Why not?

Its a very serious threat you take that and you act - no action shows weakness.
Us could win that war without leaving it shores couple hundred drones buzzing around job done doesn't matter if nk have millions or men.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Who is going to blink first then. Kim will not want to look like he is going to lose face, and who is egging him on? There have been military exorcises before. It is as if the dictator is looking for an excuse.

Zyp

Original Poster:

14,696 posts

189 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Brilliant.
Just as I'm going to be embarking on a trip to the US west coast in 7 weeks.....

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-release...

Hope they can hold off for a while.

einsign

5,494 posts

246 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Cyder said:
I like to think of NK as the crazy weird kid every school has who sits at the back of the room muttering to himself and has no friends.
I'm So Ronery


superkartracer

8,959 posts

222 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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One of the worlds largest stockpile of rockets and bio/chem weapons... i'd take them serious if living in the south.

Cobnapint

8,627 posts

151 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Four Litre said:
Sounds like hes going to run out of options soon and the fat fk will have to deliver on one of his promises.

Seems to be escalating, wont take much for it to kick off sooner or later.
Agree. We aren't dealing with a rational democracy that wants to get along with the rest of the world here. North Korea is a hyper-paranoid dictatorship that teaches it's school kids right from the very start to hate all things USA and western civilisation. NK's leaders lie on an embarrassing scale to it's unquestioning population and ban them from all forms of contact with the outside world. They even have TV jamming masts along the border to stop signals from the South being seen in the North.

They brazenly sunk a SK naval vessel in 2010 and denied all knowledge. I wouldn't put anything past this brainwashed lot.