North Korea - how serious should we take them?
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HairyPoppins said:
It's a mugs game extrapolating a whole population's condition from one individual.
I would have thought a secretive state that wants the world to fear it would put the most physically impressive soldiers on the borders?Obviously I could be wrong. But if it's the best they've got then it says a great deal.
Kinda funny that the wheel just fell off of the truck he was driving, too.
Edited by Brainpox on Friday 24th November 23:39
JPJPJP said:
China and South Korea opening their side of the border is an idea with merit imo
There aren’t that many in NK and it wouldn’t take many to run before the game was up for fatty
Exactly. One of the core foundations of the entire state is the reunification on the peninsular. How would the regime justify not allowing a single person to enter the south, even though the borders all seem to disappear one weekend? There aren’t that many in NK and it wouldn’t take many to run before the game was up for fatty
Efbe said:
They shot at a deserter from their own military.
Whilst I don't condone this, We did not Nuke America in 1945 when they did the same(Eddie Slovik) or nuke America every time it sentences someone to death. In any case, the worst the international community does is sternly worded letters against countries that murder their own citizens.
Are you suggesting we let millions of people die because of this?
you are comparing people convicted of murder to someone conscripted into a regime whom only crime is escaping from it, honestly are you all there?Whilst I don't condone this, We did not Nuke America in 1945 when they did the same(Eddie Slovik) or nuke America every time it sentences someone to death. In any case, the worst the international community does is sternly worded letters against countries that murder their own citizens.
Are you suggesting we let millions of people die because of this?
NK is a concentration camp. Their minefields, barbed wire, electrified fences and machine guns are designed to stop their own citizens escaping, not keep out a military invasion. It's shows how desperate some people are that they'll risk all to get away from the hellhole.
You can bet that the family of the soldier who escaped have already been publicly executed or thrown in a labour camp (a slower death) by the regime. I'm sure he is well aware of this.
You can bet that the family of the soldier who escaped have already been publicly executed or thrown in a labour camp (a slower death) by the regime. I'm sure he is well aware of this.
Beati Dogu said:
NK is a concentration camp. Their minefields, barbed wire, electrified fences and machine guns are designed to stop their own citizens escaping, not keep out a military invasion. It's shows how desperate some people are that they'll risk all to get away from the hellhole.
You can bet that the family of the soldier who escaped have already been publicly executed or thrown in a labour camp (a slower death) by the regime. I'm sure he is well aware of this.
Apparently all guards on the border were changed because they let him escape. I don’t even want to think about what has been done to them all.... You can bet that the family of the soldier who escaped have already been publicly executed or thrown in a labour camp (a slower death) by the regime. I'm sure he is well aware of this.
p1stonhead said:
Apparently all guards on the border were changed because they let him escape. I don’t even want to think about what has been done to them all....
well one of his pièce de résistance is artillery rounds fired at people, barbaric, i just wish they would get rid of him unite Korea and let people live a free life.The Spruce goose said:
p1stonhead said:
Apparently all guards on the border were changed because they let him escape. I don’t even want to think about what has been done to them all....
well one of his pièce de résistance is artillery rounds fired at people, barbaric, i just wish they would get rid of him unite Korea and let people live a free life.Robertj21a said:
The Spruce goose said:
p1stonhead said:
Apparently all guards on the border were changed because they let him escape. I don’t even want to think about what has been done to them all....
well one of his pièce de résistance is artillery rounds fired at people, barbaric, i just wish they would get rid of him unite Korea and let people live a free life.p1stonhead said:
Apparently all guards on the border were changed because they let him escape. I don’t even want to think about what has been done to them all....
Indeed. And if word spreads of any punishment given out for allowing a defection, I'd be minded to say if one goes - we all go.skyrover said:
South Korea has had an open border policy since the armistice.
You saw the other day what happens to North Koreans who try to cross over.
How do the North Koreans know that the man running to try and cross into South Korea isn’t a US spy taking state secrets across with him?You saw the other day what happens to North Koreans who try to cross over.
Pretty pointless have a border fence, guards and patrols to stop that if you’re then going to allow anyone to cross.
Last Visit said:
Robertj21a said:
The Spruce goose said:
p1stonhead said:
Apparently all guards on the border were changed because they let him escape. I don’t even want to think about what has been done to them all....
well one of his pièce de résistance is artillery rounds fired at people, barbaric, i just wish they would get rid of him unite Korea and let people live a free life.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Guard_Comman...
gadgetmac said:
skyrover said:
South Korea has had an open border policy since the armistice.
You saw the other day what happens to North Koreans who try to cross over.
How do the North Koreans know that the man running to try and cross into South Korea isn’t a US spy taking state secrets across with him?You saw the other day what happens to North Koreans who try to cross over.
Pretty pointless have a border fence, guards and patrols to stop that if you’re then going to allow anyone to cross.
They won't know there is an open border policy with the South. Should they know this, there would be the option of mass escapes.
The misinformation is not just one way either though...
The Spruce goose said:
well one of his pièce de résistance is artillery rounds fired at people, barbaric, i just wish they would get rid of him unite Korea and let people live a free life.
When we believe stories like this it makes us think things like...Last Visit said:
Exactly. There can't be anyone who actually likes him, certainly not amongst his notepad holding henchmen.
Which will be completely untrue.The reality of how this Kim is thought of in his own country is incredibly different.
it's this kind of attitude that completely screws a situation over, like America going in to Vietnam to "liberate" them, or America going into Iraq to "free" them, or America going in to Afghanistan to "help" them... I'm seeing a pattern here. The troops in each case, and the country behind them thought they were all doing the right thing. Their media had told them they were. Sure the goal the citizens and troops had was a good one, but it has often not aligned with what the citizens of the country being invaded at all.
If we can't understand what they understand then whatever we do will fail.
Efbe said:
When we believe stories like this it makes us think things like...
I honestly question your intelligence. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/inside-kim...
''Hee Yeon said she and her classmates were taken to a stadium at the city’s Military Academy where the hooded and gagged victims were tied to the end of anti-aircraft guns in front of some 10,000 spectators.
The escapee then recalled how the guns were fired one by one, saying: “The musicians just disappeared each time the guns were fired into them.
“Their bodies were blown to bits, totally destroyed, blood and bits flying everywhere.”''
''She added: “The tracks of the tanks were run over the remains and blood repeatedly, over and over again and made to grind the remains, to smash them into the ground until there was nothing left.”
superkartracer said:
Last Visit said:
Robertj21a said:
The Spruce goose said:
p1stonhead said:
Apparently all guards on the border were changed because they let him escape. I don’t even want to think about what has been done to them all....
well one of his pièce de résistance is artillery rounds fired at people, barbaric, i just wish they would get rid of him unite Korea and let people live a free life.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Guard_Comman...
The Spruce goose said:
Efbe said:
When we believe stories like this it makes us think things like...
I honestly question your intelligence. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/inside-kim...
''Hee Yeon said she and her classmates were taken to a stadium at the city’s Military Academy where the hooded and gagged victims were tied to the end of anti-aircraft guns in front of some 10,000 spectators.
The escapee then recalled how the guns were fired one by one, saying: “The musicians just disappeared each time the guns were fired into them.
“Their bodies were blown to bits, totally destroyed, blood and bits flying everywhere.”''
''She added: “The tracks of the tanks were run over the remains and blood repeatedly, over and over again and made to grind the remains, to smash them into the ground until there was nothing left.”
Driller said:
Are you seriously quoting the Daily Mirror as a reliable source as to what goes on in North Korea?
Again have you actually read it. The morons on here are getting worse everyday. The mirror did the interview, considering the story was picked up by leading newspapers around the world seems a valid witness statements to me unless you can evidence to counter the claims.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff