Yet another... recycling plant fire

Yet another... recycling plant fire

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Silver Smudger

3,299 posts

167 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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It's not even getting the chance to get to the recycling centres - the local tips are going on fire now.

http://www.kentlive.news/blaze-rages-this-morning-...

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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One more

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershi...

It's not really news any more is it?

MartG

20,666 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th December 2016
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Another one today, in Prescott near Liverpool http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-38...

The pic below was taken from StAnnes


DukeDickson

4,721 posts

213 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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About as exciting & irregular as a whiplash insurance claim these days scratchchin.


I'd say it was surprising, or even more than that, that all these materials handling experts didn't quite understand that this kind of stuff is a bit more likely to go up and so take appropriate precautions, but then I remember the above biggrinrolleyes.

How do they get insurance confused.

hidetheelephants

24,195 posts

193 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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DukeDickson said:
How do they get insurance confused.
Evidently from the recent posts from those that know insurance is largely unaffordable.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
DukeDickson said:
How do they get insurance confused.
Evidently from the recent posts from those that know insurance is largely unaffordable.
Why would you waste money on insurance ??? limited Company init mate !! just go bust and start again! somewhere else!!
lease company takes the hit for the plant and machinery and the cancil cleans up the mess job jobbed Bruv !!

Digga

40,298 posts

283 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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saaby93 said:
One more

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershi...

It's not really news any more is it?
That firm have just been fined £80k for the death of a worker on another site: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/729681/Wase-firm-...

And the firm is now in administration - hence the paltry fine - so nothing to see here at all. whistle



brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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Hopefully the latest scheme for turning old tyres into Biodiesel will take off with vast profits to all and all these criminal tyreburners will be kicking themselves having destroyed a lucrative asset.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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boxxob said:
How do they get licences? The LA now insist on turning up and charging you for them to check you had a kitchen window fitted correctly, but these idiots perform the same stunt over and over again. It is a scam.
Depends who's running the erm enterprise

Notice how the fire brigade always 'let it burn out' rather than 'try to save it so it can be sold' or should that be 'have to be paid to ship somewhere'

CardinalFang

640 posts

168 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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fatjon said:
Been watching this going on for years. Pleased to see I'm not the only one.

I always figured that the clue, as always, is the old adage, "follow the money".
I have to be threatened and cajoled to stick ste in the right bin. Surely if this ste was worth anything to anyone I would be offered money for it rather than being fined for not giving it away? My conclusion is that it's worth jack st to anyone and firms are being financialy encouraged to collect it by dodgy grants and contracts in order to meet our EU obligations. The government then looks the other way when it self combusts.
Some of it IS worth money. Currently (this week - prices of most grades change weekly) in your green bin: mixed paper is worth £90/mt; cardboard is £120/mt; Alu cans are £800+; plastics vary between £150 (PET = coke/water bottles); & £400 (HDPE - milk/shampoo bottles). That's what people like me pay to the people who empty your bins. You aren't offered money for it, because it needs to be sorted by your collector into something that is clean, uncontaminated, worth buying & these days, worth exporting. ie not full of nappies, clothing, grass cuttings, rotting food, glass. Although, to be fair paying the householder is an idea worth considering: it could raise the quality of the material leaving the country - something the EA is keen on. Those waste products go directly to reprocessors & mills, primarily in Asia/Far East for remaking back into - newsprint, packaging, cardboard, bottles, cans, car parts as well as a million other products (animal bedding, or road/tarmac filler for example etc...China alone buys 12million tonnes a year of UK waste paper - mainly cardboard.

The stuff that you put in your black & brown bins (for example) goes to RDF (Refuse Derived Fuel) power stations - mainly in Europe (we aren't geared up much here), composting (Anaerobic digestion plants) or landfill. Landfilling costs your rubbish collector £100/mt++ so they want to avoid it if they can.

One factor that waste collectors are struggling to cope with these days, which didn't exist before: batteries. Millions of devices & their unstable little power units chucked every year & subject to heat, damp, pressure...& the occasional lightly tossed match...

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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What was the huge fire in livwrpool area on December 4th was it a recycling plant? I could see it from the 7th floor of the pullman hotel on albert dock and it was huge!


MartG

20,666 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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dazwalsh said:
What was the huge fire in livwrpool area on December 4th was it a recycling plant? I could see it from the 7th floor of the pullman hotel on albert dock and it was huge!
Link a few posts up wink

speedchick

5,173 posts

222 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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saaby93 said:
Drove past this one at work yesterday, hubby saw it well alight at 4.45am, at 9am it was still a biggun, talking to a fireman later in the day they said at one point they had 22 appliances there, fire calls in the region were being answered by Greater Manchester appliances (well the fire alarm at an amusement place was). Was still smoking when we drove past again in the afternoon. Guess they were lucky it didn't spread.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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speedchick said:
Drove past this one at work yesterday, hubby saw it well alight at 4.45am, at 9am it was still a biggun, talking to a fireman later in the day they said at one point they had 22 appliances there, fire calls in the region were being answered by Greater Manchester appliances (well the fire alarm at an amusement place was). Was still smoking when we drove past again in the afternoon. Guess they were lucky it didn't spread.
yes yes the idea seems to be to let the rubbish all burn out while not letting it spread next door.
Saves landfill and paying to export it

Fartomatic5000

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558 posts

155 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/blaze-at-w...

Blaze at Street Fuel Ltd at Chatham Docks
13 December 2016
Firefighters spent more than five hours tackling a blaze inside a warehouse at Chatham Docks.
Crews were called to North Side Three Road, St Mary's Island, at 9.20pm last night after a recycling machine caught alight at Street Fuel Ltd.
The machine was connected to a 500 litre diesel tank and there was a danger the flames could spread.

A spokesman for Kent Fire and Rescue said: “The fire could have escalated, it was a big warehouse and it could have spread. We did a good job.”
"The machinery was completely destroyed so it was impossible to tell what had caused it."

Street Fuel Ltd fined £25,000 after worker sustains arm injuries while operating a baler machine.

The Hypno-Toad

12,277 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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One in Brentford is burning down right now, sending smoke over the M4 and disrupting the traffic.

That's unusual because lets face it, that hardly ever happens on a Sunday or during a Bank Holiday.

Remarkable. whistle

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Handy bit of overtime for the hard up firefighters.