Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

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Vizsla

923 posts

124 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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ElectricSoup said:
All the royal fawners love to bang on about how the Queen is a lovely old biffer, totally harmless, never put a foot wrong, gawd bless her, isn't she magnificent and all that. All that duty, that service, all that hard work swanning about the place in a yacht, nobody else could do it so marvellously, trained from birth you know, so specially special. All the obsequious memes, the "do him in, 007" bullst. But consider this. Andrew is widely believed to always have been her favourite son. Puts a different complexion on the old girl's character, doesn't it?

fk the lot of them, the fking leeches. I bet they all think the commoners are so far beneath them they can do as they please. Obviously Andrew does. Trafficked, abused, vulnerable young women and girls? Pah. I'm a bally Prince, stand aside, my Mummy's the QUEEN I tell you, fwah fwah fwah.

Turn my stomach, they do.
Immediately caused me to hear that in the voice of Hugh Laurie as the halfwit Prince Regent in Blackadder. Plus ca change Baldrick!

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Does art imitate life or life imitate art? The former, in this case.

I wonder how Andy does for socks.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Now this is a just something I have made up just now...but... biggrin

It is a little odd that, contrary to pretty much every other female in their circles, Andrews daughters were a bit fat.

I mean royal teens, society girls, they tend to all be slim.

Now perhaps they just have the 'have 3 slices of cake rather than 1' (or too much Woking Pizza...) nature and refused to have a personal trainer, but then again perhaps they figured out that to be safe around daddies friends they needed to put on some weight

I should join the FBI with my skills hehe

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 19th November 12:26

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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bloomen said:
An elected head of state is a general expression of a nation's will and that's got to be healthier than the current set up.
You are aware of President Trump, aren't you?

mick987

1,251 posts

110 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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hyphen said:
Now this is a just something I have made up just now...but... biggrin

It is a little odd that, contrary to pretty much every other female in their circles, Andrews daughters were a bit fat.

I mean royal teens, society girls, they tend to all be slim.

Now perhaps they just have the 'have 3 slices of cake rather than 1' (or too much Woking Pizza...) nature and refused to have a personal trainer, but then again perhaps they figured out that to be safe around daddies friends they needed to put on some weight

I should join the FBI with my skills hehe

Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 19th November 12:26
Don't think have Fergie's genes help with the weight, she was always a bit of a porker.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Europa1 said:
bloomen said:
An elected head of state is a general expression of a nation's will and that's got to be healthier than the current set up.
You are aware of President Trump, aren't you?
They can vote Trump out. And he can only have 8 years max any way. What if we don't like King Charles III? Or William the Whatevermany thereafter?

Also, a President doesn't have to be a powerful political appointment. It can be ceremonial, like in Ireland.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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President Farage doesn't sound too good to me. Of course they will all go out for it, the political wannabe and lobbying.

I would be all for it if it were a joke position, one year in the seat, most power you have is what colour scissors to cut the sash at the opening of the local toilets. All decided by lottery and anyone earning above 25 grand a year is not in the draw.

smn159

12,654 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Vizsla said:
ElectricSoup said:
All the royal fawners love to bang on about how the Queen is a lovely old biffer, totally harmless, never put a foot wrong, gawd bless her, isn't she magnificent and all that. All that duty, that service, all that hard work swanning about the place in a yacht, nobody else could do it so marvellously, trained from birth you know, so specially special. All the obsequious memes, the "do him in, 007" bullst. But consider this. Andrew is widely believed to always have been her favourite son. Puts a different complexion on the old girl's character, doesn't it?

fk the lot of them, the fking leeches. I bet they all think the commoners are so far beneath them they can do as they please. Obviously Andrew does. Trafficked, abused, vulnerable young women and girls? Pah. I'm a bally Prince, stand aside, my Mummy's the QUEEN I tell you, fwah fwah fwah.

Turn my stomach, they do.
Immediately caused me to hear that in the voice of Hugh Laurie as the halfwit Prince Regent in Blackadder. Plus ca change Baldrick!
And Yoda smile

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Zirconia said:
President Farage doesn't sound too good to me. Of course they will all go out for it, the political wannabe and lobbying.

I would be all for it if it were a joke position, one year in the seat, most power you have is what colour scissors to cut the sash at the opening of the local toilets. All decided by lottery and anyone earning above 25 grand a year is not in the draw.
Farage wouldn't go for a ceremonial position. He hasn't got the balls to go for one with genuine power attached any more either, the chicken st. He wants it handed to him, he deserves it in his mind. Lord Farage of the Dog and Duck, Earl of Fagbreath. Tw@.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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ElectricSoup said:
All the royal fawners love to bang on about how the Queen is a lovely old biffer, totally harmless, never put a foot wrong, gawd bless her, isn't she magnificent and all that. All that duty, that service, all that hard work swanning about the place in a yacht, nobody else could do it so marvellously, trained from birth you know, so specially special. All the obsequious memes, the "do him in, 007" bullst. But consider this. Andrew is widely believed to always have been her favourite son. Puts a different complexion on the old girl's character, doesn't it?

fk the lot of them, the fking leeches. I bet they all think the commoners are so far beneath them they can do as they please. Obviously Andrew does. Trafficked, abused, vulnerable young women and girls? Pah. I'm a bally Prince, stand aside, my Mummy's the QUEEN I tell you, fwah fwah fwah.

Turn my stomach, they do.
Tell us how you really feel rofl

I’m not a ‘royal fawner’, I would just like to thoroughly and extensively research the economic and diplomatic Pros and Cons to the country before making a decision.

If they provide any kind of a net positive to the country then I would be happy to keep them, if not, then I wouldn’t have a problem disbanding them and handing the palaces and houses over to English Heritage etc

I’m looking at it purely from a business point of view, but you have to remember that millions of people in this country gain a sense of national pride and ‘enjoyment’ from having a royal family.

Last time there was a large survey, the public were in favour of retaining a royal family, by quite a margin.

steveo3002

10,525 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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ElectricSoup said:
All the royal fawners love to bang on about how the Queen is a lovely old biffer, totally harmless, never put a foot wrong, gawd bless her, isn't she magnificent and all that. All that duty, that service, all that hard work swanning about the place in a yacht, nobody else could do it so marvellously, trained from birth you know, so specially special. All the obsequious memes, the "do him in, 007" bullst. But consider this. Andrew is widely believed to always have been her favourite son. Puts a different complexion on the old girl's character, doesn't it?

fk the lot of them, the fking leeches. I bet they all think the commoners are so far beneath them they can do as they please. Obviously Andrew does. Trafficked, abused, vulnerable young women and girls? Pah. I'm a bally Prince, stand aside, my Mummy's the QUEEN I tell you, fwah fwah fwah.

Turn my stomach, they do.
9/10 smile

Etypephil

724 posts

78 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
There would be way more tourist revenue if all the palaces were fully open to the public. Look at Versailles: ker chingga. There are no rational arguments in favour of hereditary monarchy. All defences of it end up with waffle about dignity and respect, and are ultimately about old deference. Even Bagehot struggled to do more than mumble about dignity. How dignified are the Royal offspring? Not very.

The tired old argument that if no Monarch we would have a president who might be Blair or Beckham is weak. Other nations elect sensible people as ceremonial president: see Ireland as an example. Also there is no need for the head of state and the head of government to be two people so long as the person doing both jobs is elected for a limited term and has his or her powers checked by constitutional safeguards.
Absolutely.

One might argue that we could increase tourist income by holding regular public executions of aristocrats, as the French did, but selling tickets to anyone willing to pay. They are sufficiently numerous, and have a reproductive rate adequate to provide an eternal revenue stream. smile

Having the particular birth canal via which the planet was joined, as the sole criteria for HOS selection must be the most absurd which could be devised.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
... you have to remember that millions of people in this country gain a sense of national pride and ‘enjoyment’ from having a royal family.

Last time there was a large survey, the public were in favour of retaining a royal family, by quite a margin.
Well they are idiots then, aren't they.

Pride in what? A bunch of people living in privilege just through birth?

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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steveo3002 said:
ElectricSoup said:
All the royal fawners love to bang on about how the Queen is a lovely old biffer, totally harmless, never put a foot wrong, gawd bless her, isn't she magnificent and all that. All that duty, that service, all that hard work swanning about the place in a yacht, nobody else could do it so marvellously, trained from birth you know, so specially special. All the obsequious memes, the "do him in, 007" bullst. But consider this. Andrew is widely believed to always have been her favourite son. Puts a different complexion on the old girl's character, doesn't it?

fk the lot of them, the fking leeches. I bet they all think the commoners are so far beneath them they can do as they please. Obviously Andrew does. Trafficked, abused, vulnerable young women and girls? Pah. I'm a bally Prince, stand aside, my Mummy's the QUEEN I tell you, fwah fwah fwah.

Turn my stomach, they do.
9/10 smile
Is electric soup Cockney Anchor from Viz ????

Lazermilk

3,523 posts

81 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Gameface said:
Byker28i said:
Are the US getting a little hypocritical? Saying Andrew needs to be questioned in the US but refuses to help with the hit and run driving wife?
Hypocritical given the blind eye they turn towards their presidents behaviour with the opposite sex.

And of course Trump knew Epstein better than Andrew.

Trump will absolutely not want Andrew investigated by American agencies.
I was thinking the same, also Clinton apparently flew on his jet something like 26 times, lots of powerful people just wanting this story to be squashed quickly.

sugerbear

4,033 posts

158 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Fat Fairy said:
sugerbear said:
Or as Danny Baker tweeted after the Prince Andrew interview.

"We have a family that reigns over us.
A family who must be addressed as "highness" and "majesty" and "ma'am" and "Sir"
A family who are told to we bow to and curtsey to.
They live in castles and palaces.
They own huge bits of our land.
A "Royal" Family.
Everyone OK with that?"
Hmmm, the Danny Baker who is so 'In Tune' with the populace that he tweets 'funny' yet rather inappropriate monkey pics?

If he is 'Against', I am 'For'.

FF.
Well he certainly had it right that the royals are a circus. A bunch of performing [insert animals of least offence here] in suits and dresses for the general public's amusement.

Each to their own. .


ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
ElectricSoup said:
All the royal fawners love to bang on about how the Queen is a lovely old biffer, totally harmless, never put a foot wrong, gawd bless her, isn't she magnificent and all that. All that duty, that service, all that hard work swanning about the place in a yacht, nobody else could do it so marvellously, trained from birth you know, so specially special. All the obsequious memes, the "do him in, 007" bullst. But consider this. Andrew is widely believed to always have been her favourite son. Puts a different complexion on the old girl's character, doesn't it?

fk the lot of them, the fking leeches. I bet they all think the commoners are so far beneath them they can do as they please. Obviously Andrew does. Trafficked, abused, vulnerable young women and girls? Pah. I'm a bally Prince, stand aside, my Mummy's the QUEEN I tell you, fwah fwah fwah.

Turn my stomach, they do.
Tell us how you really feel rofl

I’m not a ‘royal fawner’, I would just like to thoroughly and extensively research the economic and diplomatic Pros and Cons to the country before making a decision.

If they provide any kind of a net positive to the country then I would be happy to keep them, if not, then I wouldn’t have a problem disbanding them and handing the palaces and houses over to English Heritage etc

I’m looking at it purely from a business point of view, but you have to remember that millions of people in this country gain a sense of national pride and ‘enjoyment’ from having a royal family.

Last time there was a large survey, the public were in favour of retaining a royal family, by quite a margin.
I reckon if someone is proud of them and enjoys having them about in light of current revelations, and thinks it reflects well on the nation as a whole, then I don't have an awful lot of respect for that position.

But I agree with the other parts of your post. Let's get all the facts out there, and let the people decide.

What could possibly go wrong? ;-)

z4RRSchris

11,279 posts

179 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Lazermilk said:
Gameface said:
Byker28i said:
Are the US getting a little hypocritical? Saying Andrew needs to be questioned in the US but refuses to help with the hit and run driving wife?
Hypocritical given the blind eye they turn towards their presidents behaviour with the opposite sex.

And of course Trump knew Epstein better than Andrew.

Trump will absolutely not want Andrew investigated by American agencies.
I was thinking the same, also Clinton apparently flew on his jet something like 26 times, lots of powerful people just wanting this story to be squashed quickly.
can imagine when the trump / andrew / clinton hitman arrived at his cell, he was beaten to it by one of the others.

A clever one would have got a bit of cash of each to do it.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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austinsmirk said:
steveo3002 said:
ElectricSoup said:
All the royal fawners love to bang on about how the Queen is a lovely old biffer, totally harmless, never put a foot wrong, gawd bless her, isn't she magnificent and all that. All that duty, that service, all that hard work swanning about the place in a yacht, nobody else could do it so marvellously, trained from birth you know, so specially special. All the obsequious memes, the "do him in, 007" bullst. But consider this. Andrew is widely believed to always have been her favourite son. Puts a different complexion on the old girl's character, doesn't it?

fk the lot of them, the fking leeches. I bet they all think the commoners are so far beneath them they can do as they please. Obviously Andrew does. Trafficked, abused, vulnerable young women and girls? Pah. I'm a bally Prince, stand aside, my Mummy's the QUEEN I tell you, fwah fwah fwah.

Turn my stomach, they do.
9/10 smile
Is electric soup Cockney Anchor from Viz ????
Oi oi, fackin' 'ave a word, kaaaaaaaant!

MILLWALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

stichill99

1,043 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Does anyone know anything of Victoria's parents? I know I will be accused of victim blaming here but is it not odd that her parents didn't say Vicky love where are you getting the money to fly to London or Uncle Jeffreys island or did she go on Jeffreys private jet. It reminds me of the Sacha Baron Cohen movie when they were interviewing parents and there kids for a movie role and one of the parents was happy to break Juniors arm for the movie role. Anything for fame baby!