Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

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DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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I'm not looking to argue about his preferences, but I'm categorising him on facts rather than gossip/hearsay.

When it's been proven that he had sex with pre-pubescent girls I'll happily refer to the odious pervert as a paedophile.

otolith

56,098 posts

204 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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DocJock said:
I'm not looking to argue about his preferences, but I'm categorising him on facts rather than gossip/hearsay.

When it's been proven that he had sex with pre-pubescent girls I'll happily refer to the odious pervert as a paedophile.
A paedophile is not necessarily a person who has had sex with pre-pubescent children, but a person who is sexually attracted to them. From his documented sexual preferences, it would seem likely that this was the case.

I'm not too bothered about giving dead child rapists the benefit of the doubt.

Thales

619 posts

57 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Just so this thread doesn't get lost.

Halmyre

11,193 posts

139 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Thales said:
Just so this thread doesn't get lost.
Andrew appears to be lost, or at least in deep cover.

Thales

619 posts

57 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Halmyre said:
Andrew appears to be lost, or at least in deep cover.
Yep, it's gone worryingly quiet. I really hope this isn't the end of the Andrew/Epstein/Maxwell saga.

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Thales said:
Yep, it's gone worryingly quiet. I really hope this isn't the end of the Andrew/Epstein/Maxwell saga.
Why are you worried?

Thales

619 posts

57 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Why are you worried?
Why aren't you worried?

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Thales said:
Why aren't you worried?
Oh, how novel.

Answer a question with a question.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

170 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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I would have thought the real investigation should be focused on Ghislaine Maxwell, surely she is the one with all the dirt going? Or is she going to shoot herself in the back of the head twice?

Any news of her?

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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bucksmanuk said:
I would have thought the real investigation should be focused on Ghislaine Maxwell, surely she is the one with all the dirt going? Or is she going to shoot herself in the back of the head twice?

Any news of her?
She is either dead, in fear for her life or threatening a lot of people with exposure.

No way in hell is she being brought to account, even if she is arrested she'll accidentally fall out to a 3rd floor window, even if it's a bungalow.

Vizsla

923 posts

124 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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vonuber said:
bucksmanuk said:
I would have thought the real investigation should be focused on Ghislaine Maxwell, surely she is the one with all the dirt going? Or is she going to shoot herself in the back of the head twice?

Any news of her?
She is either dead, in fear for her life or threatening a lot of people with exposure.

No way in hell is she being brought to account, even if she is arrested she'll accidentally fall out to a 3rd floor window into an alligator-filled river, even if it's a bungalow.
EFA.

Thales

619 posts

57 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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bucksmanuk said:
I would have thought the real investigation should be focused on Ghislaine Maxwell, surely she is the one with all the dirt going? Or is she going to shoot herself in the back of the head twice?

Any news of her?
There was the bizarre, almost symbolic photo released of her sat at In and Out burger just after Epstein "died", now nothing. She's probably in Israel under Mossad protection.

Getragdogleg

8,766 posts

183 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Thales said:
bucksmanuk said:
I would have thought the real investigation should be focused on Ghislaine Maxwell, surely she is the one with all the dirt going? Or is she going to shoot herself in the back of the head twice?

Any news of her?
There was the bizarre, almost symbolic photo released of her sat at In and Out burger just after Epstein "died", now nothing. She's probably in Israel under Mossad protection.
That photo was picked apart by a group on Reddit and they concluded it was heavily "shopped" the advert in the background was never displayed at that location and other interesting stuff.

All of it is odd and stinks of cover up.

Thales

619 posts

57 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Oh, how novel.

Answer a question with a question.
I thought it would be quite obvious why one would be concerned about a global pedo ring being buried in the depths of the media.

Stan the Bat

8,916 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Getragdogleg said:
Thales said:
bucksmanuk said:
I would have thought the real investigation should be focused on Ghislaine Maxwell, surely she is the one with all the dirt going? Or is she going to shoot herself in the back of the head twice?

Any news of her?
There was the bizarre, almost symbolic photo released of her sat at In and Out burger just after Epstein "died", now nothing. She's probably in Israel under Mossad protection.
That photo was picked apart by a group on Reddit and they concluded it was heavily "shopped" the advert in the background was never displayed at that location and other interesting stuff.

All of it is odd and stinks of cover up.
Do you know which group on Reddit that was ?

scottydoesntknow

860 posts

57 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
Do you know which group on Reddit that was ?
r/Epstein I’d imagine.

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Thales said:
I thought it would be quite obvious why one would be concerned about a global pedo ring being buried in the depths of the media.
Would that be similar to the Westminster one?

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Would that be similar to the Westminster one?
No.

See, this is going beyond 'just being factual about terminology' and actively trying to discredit the claims made. You do have to wonder why.

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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vonuber said:
No.

See, this is going beyond 'just being factual about terminology' and actively trying to discredit the claims made. You do have to wonder why.
Where is the evidence of this global paedophile ring that Andrew is supposed to be a member of?

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Where is the evidence of this global paedophile ring that Andrew is supposed to be a member of?
No one said he was a member. Well, not in that sense.
Why don't you read all the depositions from the victims, and then come back.
And again, what is your desire to defend this man, even if it means mitigating Epstein's crimes?