Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

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boxst

3,716 posts

145 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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I always though this person was a better choice than the person he finally married:


MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Dixy said:
Royalty are well payed by us the taxpayer. The taxpayer pays nothing to Royalty, the Crown contracted with the state over the income from the Crown estates.
Prince Andrew receives nothing from the state.
Does that make him being a Paedo OK? I'd also like to see where you got your figures from. Selling one of his houses would pay off a good chunk of the national debt.

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Maybe I am just lucky but I've never been accused of paedophilia.
But if it's true they only met on those three occasions in London, NYC and the Caribbean then she wasn't illegally underage?



Edited by Oakey on Friday 2nd January 21:44

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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SpeckledJim said:
Plaintiff was 17 at the time of the alleged, so it's not a 'pedo' issue.
That's why the palace have issued an absolute denial that any of this ever happened.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Boris Morris said:
Lost soul said:
Is 17 a child?
Legal I think so
In this country the age of consent is 16 not 18 with marriage also being legal at that age in Scotland,or in England with parents consent.

America has some strange age issues which have swung from the extreme of legal marriage at 13,as in the case of Jerry Lee Lewis' marriage to Myra Brown,to what seems like federal law now which effectively makes the age of consent 18 where one party to the relationship is 18 or over.

As for the issue with Andrew that seems like more to do with the strange societal confusion on both sides of the Atlantic concerning anyone considered as being 'too old' to be with someone considered as being 'too young'.Which is probably why,unlike his father,Harry won't be as lucky now in finding a girl of Dianna Spencer's age when she first met Charles when she was 15.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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XJ Flyer said:
In this country the age of consent is 16 not 18 with marriage also being legal at that age in Scotland,or in England with parents consent.

America has some strange age issues which have swung from the extreme of legal marriage at 13,as in the case of Jerry Lee Lewis' marriage to Myra Brown,to what seems like federal law now which effectively makes the age of consent 18 where one party to the relationship is 18 or over.

As for the issue with Andrew that seems like more to do with the strange societal confusion on both sides of the Atlantic concerning anyone considered as being 'too old' to be with someone considered as being 'too young'.Which is probably why,unlike his father,Harry won't be as lucky now in finding a girl of Dianna Spencer's age when she first met Charles when she was 15.
They really are filth. Posh paedogeddon approacheth.

Throw out the filthy Tories and the royals.

Hello 2015


Edited by MarshPhantom on Friday 2nd January 21:57

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
paedogeddon.
Credit to you for how hard you're trying, but it's getting increasingly important that you learn what the word actually means.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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SpeckledJim said:
MarshPhantom said:
paedogeddon.
Credit to you for how hard you're trying, but it's getting increasingly important that you learn what the word actually means.
Telegraph reader's like to rape small children in big numbers?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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This definitely isn't a paedophile case as that would be pre-pubescent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia


This would be a case of Ephebophilia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia





HTHthumbup

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Dixy said:
Royalty are well payed by us the taxpayer. The taxpayer pays nothing to Royalty, the Crown contracted with the state over the income from the Crown estates.
Prince Andrew receives nothing from the state.
Does that make him being a Paedo OK? I'd also like to see where you got your figures from. Selling one of his houses would pay off a good chunk of the national debt.
If the claims are true that Andrew has broken federal age of consent laws then why hasn't he been extradited by Florida police as part of a criminal prosecution case.IE the case seems to be a civil one not a criminal one.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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XJ Flyer said:
MarshPhantom said:
Dixy said:
Royalty are well payed by us the taxpayer. The taxpayer pays nothing to Royalty, the Crown contracted with the state over the income from the Crown estates.
Prince Andrew receives nothing from the state.
Does that make him being a Paedo OK? I'd also like to see where you got your figures from. Selling one of his houses would pay off a good chunk of the national debt.
If the claims are true that Andrew has broken federal age of consent laws then why hasn't he been extradited by Florida police as part of a criminal prosecution case.IE the case seems to be a civil one not a criminal one.
Because Prince Andrew?

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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boxst said:
I always though this person was a better choice than the person he finally married:

Had bad cancer and "randy" refused to help IIRC..

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
XJ Flyer said:
In this country the age of consent is 16 not 18 with marriage also being legal at that age in Scotland,or in England with parents consent.

America has some strange age issues which have swung from the extreme of legal marriage at 13,as in the case of Jerry Lee Lewis' marriage to Myra Brown,to what seems like federal law now which effectively makes the age of consent 18 where one party to the relationship is 18 or over.

As for the issue with Andrew that seems like more to do with the strange societal confusion on both sides of the Atlantic concerning anyone considered as being 'too old' to be with someone considered as being 'too young'.Which is probably why,unlike his father,Harry won't be as lucky now in finding a girl of Dianna Spencer's age when she first met Charles when she was 15.
They really are filth. Posh paedogeddon approacheth.

Throw out the filthy Tories and the royals.

Hello 2015


Edited by MarshPhantom on Friday 2nd January 21:57
More like ageogeddon in that if anyone is considered as being too old for their wife they're fked.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/teenager-j...

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Because Prince Andrew?
You seem to be ignoring the part where the girl was of the legal age of consent?

Here's the part from the Telegraph, I suggest you try reading it slowly, so you can digest the information

Telegraph said:
The unnamed litigant claims she was forced to have "sexual relations" with the Duke at a flat in London, at a Caribbean island in "an orgy with numerous other under-aged girls" and an undisclosed location in New York.


The woman was 17 at the time, which is considered to be a minor in Florida, where the legal papers were filed.
Filed in Florida, where Eppstein had sex with girls who would have been underage in that state.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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XJ Flyer said:
MarshPhantom said:
XJ Flyer said:
In this country the age of consent is 16 not 18 with marriage also being legal at that age in Scotland,or in England with parents consent.

America has some strange age issues which have swung from the extreme of legal marriage at 13,as in the case of Jerry Lee Lewis' marriage to Myra Brown,to what seems like federal law now which effectively makes the age of consent 18 where one party to the relationship is 18 or over.

As for the issue with Andrew that seems like more to do with the strange societal confusion on both sides of the Atlantic concerning anyone considered as being 'too old' to be with someone considered as being 'too young'.Which is probably why,unlike his father,Harry won't be as lucky now in finding a girl of Dianna Spencer's age when she first met Charles when she was 15.
They really are filth. Posh paedogeddon approacheth.

Throw out the filthy Tories and the royals.

Hello 2015


Edited by MarshPhantom on Friday 2nd January 21:57
More like ageogeddon in that if anyone is considered as being too old for their wife they're fked.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/teenager-j...
Most peeps don't think it's sick/fked up to have sex with your wife?

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
XJ Flyer said:
MarshPhantom said:
Dixy said:
Royalty are well payed by us the taxpayer. The taxpayer pays nothing to Royalty, the Crown contracted with the state over the income from the Crown estates.
Prince Andrew receives nothing from the state.
Does that make him being a Paedo OK? I'd also like to see where you got your figures from. Selling one of his houses would pay off a good chunk of the national debt.
If the claims are true that Andrew has broken federal age of consent laws then why hasn't he been extradited by Florida police as part of a criminal prosecution case.IE the case seems to be a civil one not a criminal one.
Because Prince Andrew?
Or maybe more money to be made in compo and less burden of proof required in a civil case than a criminal one.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Oakey said:
MarshPhantom said:
Because Prince Andrew?
You seem to be ignoring the part where the girl was of the legal age.
As posted above. If nothing doing why the massive denial by those royals earlier.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
XJ Flyer said:
MarshPhantom said:
XJ Flyer said:
In this country the age of consent is 16 not 18 with marriage also being legal at that age in Scotland,or in England with parents consent.

America has some strange age issues which have swung from the extreme of legal marriage at 13,as in the case of Jerry Lee Lewis' marriage to Myra Brown,to what seems like federal law now which effectively makes the age of consent 18 where one party to the relationship is 18 or over.

As for the issue with Andrew that seems like more to do with the strange societal confusion on both sides of the Atlantic concerning anyone considered as being 'too old' to be with someone considered as being 'too young'.Which is probably why,unlike his father,Harry won't be as lucky now in finding a girl of Dianna Spencer's age when she first met Charles when she was 15.
They really are filth. Posh paedogeddon approacheth.

Throw out the filthy Tories and the royals.

Hello 2015


Edited by MarshPhantom on Friday 2nd January 21:57
More like ageogeddon in that if anyone is considered as being too old for their wife they're fked.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/teenager-j...
Most peeps don't think it's sick/fked up to have sex with your wife?
Really ?.Bearing in mind that in general a 16 year old girl being with someone of Harry's,let alone Andrew's,age will have to wait until they are 18 until they marry because there is no way that the average parents will agree to it under English law.Let alone what would happen in the states in which case ageogeddon would be an understatement.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/she-was-15-i-was-...

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
As posted above. If nothing doing why the massive denial by those royals earlier.
"However, for the avoidance of doubt, any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue".

Which is categorically true, because the girl in question was the legal age of consent in the locations she allegedly met him. what do you propose if not denial? They admit to something he hasn't done?

You seem to be getting confused with the case against Eppstein, who was having sex with underage girls (younger than just 17), in Florida, where it is illegal.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Oakey said:
MarshPhantom said:
Because Prince Andrew?
You seem to be ignoring the part where the girl was of the legal age.
As posted above. If nothing doing why the massive denial by those royals earlier.
Probably because the Royals are just another part of the PC establishment.Which now thinks it is better for a same sex couple to marry and adopt children than for someone who is considered as being 'too old' to be with someone of the opposite sex who is considered as being 'too young'.Hence why we've now got people having to deflect the disgusting accusation of paedophile for being with or even associated with being with a 17 year old woman.