Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

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Digga

40,301 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
If it is so clear cut that the Swedes have been done over by their elected representatives, why don't they just simply vote for a party that will look after their interests?
Good question and I don't now the answer to this, but suspect the situation is similar to the question of why America voted trump into office. The phrase "least worst option" springs to mind.

BrabusMog

20,142 posts

186 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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coolg said:
It’s what Sweden wanted, there won’t be any backlash.

When you have women raped and they don’t want the perpetrator deported as the country they came from is not very nice.... you know they won’t change.

Edited by coolg on Tuesday 13th October 08:48
One persons thoughts do not represent a nation. There are issues in Sweden, of course, but that is a crass analogy.

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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BrabusMog said:
One persons thoughts do not represent a nation. There are issues in Sweden, of course, but that is a crass analogy.
Maybe but it is not only one person, there doesn't appear to be enough on the other side to push for any form of change, and as the immigrant population / descendants of continue to grow there is less chance of change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47283562

This idiot wont be alone, many will have supported her many will have similar feelings.

That said what can they really change ? The damage is done the multicultural dream appears to be turning sour and i am not sure what they can do about it.


Edited by coolg on Tuesday 13th October 16:14

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
If it is so clear cut that the Swedes have been done over by their elected representatives, why don't they just simply vote for a party that will look after their interests?
Or is it that so many of the youth are brain washed into believing in the multicultural dream that they cant see any wrong ?

As we have seen here any party that appears to be anti immigrant is instantly racist.

Randy Winkman

16,103 posts

189 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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coolg said:
BrabusMog said:
One persons thoughts do not represent a nation. There are issues in Sweden, of course, but that is a crass analogy.
Maybe but it is not only one person, there doesn't appear to be enough on the other side to push for any form of change, and as the immigrant population / descendants of continue to grow there is less chance of change.

That said what really can they change ? The damage is done the multicultural dream appears to be turning sour and i am not sure what they can really do about it.
Perhaps they like where they live and don't want it to turn into other places in the world that they see? Do you think Sweden should be more like the UK? Or France? Or the US?

coolg

650 posts

46 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Randy Winkman said:
coolg said:
BrabusMog said:
One persons thoughts do not represent a nation. There are issues in Sweden, of course, but that is a crass analogy.
Maybe but it is not only one person, there doesn't appear to be enough on the other side to push for any form of change, and as the immigrant population / descendants of continue to grow there is less chance of change.

That said what really can they change ? The damage is done the multicultural dream appears to be turning sour and i am not sure what they can really do about it.
Perhaps they like where they live and don't want it to turn into other places in the world that they see? Do you think Sweden should be more like the UK? Or France? Or the US?
Who likes where they live ?
The traditional blonde haired blue eyed stereotype or the immigrant criminal as referred to on the previous page.

Is it really different from everywhere else ?
The UK and France all have ghettos and issues with their immigrant population.

America is just a mess

rodericb

6,722 posts

126 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Here's something to do with the US and illegal immigration but does get into Sweden. https://youtu.be/R6MlbfbSCMQ Video is ten minutes long.

mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20961...

The majority (59.3%) of rapes in Sweden are carried out by immigrants, first or second generation.

Multicultural dream going sour ?

Lagom

541 posts

62 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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mrporsche said:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20961...

The majority (59.3%) of rapes in Sweden are carried out by immigrants, first or second generation.

Multicultural dream going sour ?
Went sour ca.2010, been rotting away ever since.

634 bombings have taken place in Sweden since 2018. Or as the Swedish government prefers us to call them "explosions' when they take place domestically.

Lagom

541 posts

62 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Police in Sweden has classified this afternoons knife attack as Terrorism.

Eight people have been taken to hospital after a suspected terrorist attack in Vetlanda. Several have been seriously injured and the suspected perpetrator, who was armed with some form of knife or axe, has been shot in the leg by police.

https://polisen.se/aktuellt/handelser/2021/mars/3/...

Earthdweller

13,521 posts

126 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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It just doesn’t get the airing on the MSM outside Sweden

Benni

3,512 posts

211 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Was on all german news broadcasts, public & private news, so "MSM" have been reporting it.

mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Internet is suggesting he is from Afghanistan !

Who would have guessed.....

Lagom

541 posts

62 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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mrporsche said:
Internet is suggesting he is from Afghanistan !

Who would have guessed.....
He's a 22-year-old drug addict and asylum seeker from Afghanistan, who is now denying he was ever there (according to SVT news at 12 noon).

The attack sounds horrific according to victims and witnesses:

Emma's mother had gone into the supermarket and shopped while her husband was waiting in the parking lot, in accordance with current corona regulations.

When his wife came out of the store, her father got out of the car to meet her and help stow the goods in the car. It was when he opened the tailgate that the knife-wielding man attacked from behind.

- He came from nowhere and chopped dad, Emma tells Expressen (Swedish national newspaper).

Emma's father was stabbed in the neck which could have been directly fatal but he quickly got the shopping cart between him and Tamim (the attacker), to avoid being exposed to more knife blows to vital body parts. However, the attacker managed to get another blow to the hip.

The suspect then attacked another person instead, Emma explains, who at the same time says that her father would have stood in the way of the knife if the suspected terrorist had tried to attack her mother.

Emma goes on to say that the mother perceived it as something "animalistic" about the Afghan perpetrator.

GroundZero

2,085 posts

54 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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NDA said:
A country being destroyed by the liberal elite.
Of course not just Sweden, there are similar forces in much of Europe such as the Netherlands, the UK etc.
All trying to push similar narratives and agendas.

What is absent is a collective push back to these narratives, at the moment it seems it is just on an individual level this occurs due to fears of SJW targeting and the like.
When the push back is on such small levels it is very easy for the de-platformers, the silencers, and all the others in large shouty groups that go about targeting individuals for opinions that are different to theirs, to be 'successful' in drowning out that 'dissent'.

At the moment it is large groups of organised shouty 'progressives' vs individual traditional ordinary persons. And it comes across that the ordinary person is in the minority when in fact they are the vast majority in much of these situations. There just needs to be similar large groups of organised push backs to these silly narratives and agendas.

Randy Winkman

16,103 posts

189 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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I'm happy that I live in the UK of 2021 and not the UK of 1971. I was alive then, by the way. Can't speak for the people of Sweden of course. Though a large part of my family does live there. What I mean is that I like the progressive, liberalist, multi-cultural world of today.

mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Randy Winkman said:
I'm happy that I live in the UK of 2021 and not the UK of 1971. I was alive then, by the way. Can't speak for the people of Sweden of course. Though a large part of my family does live there. What I mean is that I like the progressive, liberalist, multi-cultural world of today.
Because you have been brainwashed into believing it is better !!

Modern society maybe better than 1971, but i dont think the things you list have made it so

Randy Winkman

16,103 posts

189 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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mrporsche said:
Randy Winkman said:
I'm happy that I live in the UK of 2021 and not the UK of 1971. I was alive then, by the way. Can't speak for the people of Sweden of course. Though a large part of my family does live there. What I mean is that I like the progressive, liberalist, multi-cultural world of today.
Because you have been brainwashed into believing it is better !!

Modern society maybe better than 1971, but i dont think the things you list have made it so
I have been brainwashed. rolleyes I don't even know when I'm happy. Listen to yourself. laugh

Liokault

2,837 posts

214 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Randy Winkman said:
mrporsche said:
Randy Winkman said:
I'm happy that I live in the UK of 2021 and not the UK of 1971. I was alive then, by the way. Can't speak for the people of Sweden of course. Though a large part of my family does live there. What I mean is that I like the progressive, liberalist, multi-cultural world of today.
Because you have been brainwashed into believing it is better !!

Modern society maybe better than 1971, but i dont think the things you list have made it so
I have been brainwashed. rolleyes I don't even know when I'm happy. Listen to yourself. laugh
I was born in 72 and grew up in a single parent council house on quite a rough estate. I now live in a fairly posh rural village.

My kids aren’t having as good a childhood as I had, even given the improved setting.

I’m also fairly sure their experience once they get to pub going age will be any better either.

Not everything was better in “in the old days” but quite a lot was.

Lagom

541 posts

62 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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Sweden is starting to return to normal. 3 bombs in 3 days in the Farsta district of Stockholm, targeting apartment blocks.