Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

Can we talk about Sweden for a bit?

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Randy Winkman

16,134 posts

189 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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Lagom said:
Sweden is starting to return to normal. 3 bombs in 3 days in the Farsta district of Stockholm, targeting apartment blocks.
Returning to normal? Are you pleased?

Earthdweller

13,553 posts

126 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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Randy Winkman said:
Returning to normal? Are you pleased?
I’d very much doubt it as he has been trying to highlight what st going on over there

I for one am glad he does as you’ll not hear it on any of the MSM

garagewidow

1,502 posts

170 months

Sunday 25th April 2021
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Earthdweller said:
I’d very much doubt it as he has been trying to highlight what st going on over there

I for one am glad he does as you’ll not hear it on any of the MSM
Just reading Lagom's post above,you're right.

I was totally unaware of what had happened over there.

BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Sunday 25th April 2021
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Lagom said:
Sweden is starting to return to normal. 3 bombs in 3 days in the Farsta district of Stockholm, targeting apartment blocks.
My missus was saying 5 women murdered since February or something as well?

Derek Smith

45,659 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th April 2021
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BrabusMog said:
Lagom said:
Sweden is starting to return to normal. 3 bombs in 3 days in the Farsta district of Stockholm, targeting apartment blocks.
My missus was saying 5 women murdered since February or something as well?
2019 figures show 225 women murdered in the UK. If 2020 and 2021 are the same, unlikely I know given lockdowns, it puts five murdered since February something we can only dream of.

It's very difficult comparing like for like with regards the old days. I was a kid in the 50s and my youth was idyllic. We had bomb sites all over my play area. We had few police officers to stop us doing what we wanted, and even if one turned up, all we had to do was run away. Mind you, it was great as long as you didn't catch one of the childhood diseases that were around then.

Kay was around 9 when she was carted off to an isolation hospital in Erith marshes and stuck in an iron lung. She was declared cured, but many parents refused to let their kids play with her. I was told to go round to see her by my gran, but as she was in a wheelchair, it was difficult to play games. She died a few months later.

Kids being abused and too frightened to tell anyone as there was no support.

On the other hand, I used to be given a bit of food, probably a fish-paste sandwich, a bit of cheese, and apple or two, and 6d to buy a drink, shown the door and told to be back by 3pm. I used to walk to Greenwich park, about a mile or so, and went to the Maritime Museum. I would return via the riverside walk, all but doubling the distance, but there would be lots of exciting stuff going on. Sun tugs used to moor up there and I was given a ride on one where an east European, I think Polish, hand was in tears, telling me about his boy who died during the war.

Ricketts was common in the older population, as were birth defects. A girl at school was teased because she had six fingers on each hand, although the 'extra' one was vestigial.

There was a concrete football pitch near my house and we used to play games on there after school. The teams would be picked, and those kids with problems, such as cerebral palsy, although not the term used, would be left until the end and then evenly distributed between teams. It seems awful nowadays, quite rightly, but such kids made the effort to turn up because they knew they'd get a game. There were two kids with hip problems in my class at junior school. The good old days.

A teacher quite prepared to throw a wooden board rubber at a child in his class. He apologised to parents, but mainly because he’d missed the one he’d aimed at.

There are positives and negatives. We’ve gone backwards in some ways, but so far forward in others that there’s no need to consider any balance.

I’m frequently told how lucky my generation was because of cheap housing. Yet it took two years to save up the deposit for my house, and three years of austerity once I got married. My fiancée and I lived with our respective parents. We didn’t spend any money on recreation. If it wasn’t paid for us, we didn’t go. Of a weekend, we’d go for a picnic in Greenwich Park, Blackheath, or similar. I was poorly paid yet we managed it.

Earthdweller

13,553 posts

126 months

Sunday 25th April 2021
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Derek Smith said:
2019 figures show 225 women murdered in the UK. If 2020 and 2021 are the same, unlikely I know given lockdowns, it puts five murdered since February something we can only dream of.
There’s not much difference in the murder rate

There were 24 women murdered in Sweden last year .. there are 5m female residents

Average 2 a month .. U.K. averages 19 a month 5m/34m female pop 0.0004% v 0.0006% of the population

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Derek Smith said:
It's very difficult comparing like for like with regards the old days.
Indeed, population-wise Sweden should be compared to London and for every stabbing in London, there's pretty much an explosion in Sweden. More than 250 a year mostly confined to 3 cities: Stockholm (pop. 975,000), Malmö (pop. 334,000), and Gothenburg (pop. 580,000). Imagine if there were that number of explosions in London or any other city with a population under 2m? The MSM would be having a field day.

BrabusMog said:
My missus was saying 5 women murdered since February or something as well?
For comparison, not one murder was registered in Norway during the first three months of 2021.

Earthdweller said:
There’s not much difference in the murder rate

There were 24 women murdered in Sweden last year .. there are 5m female residents
In Sweden "Honor killings" represent roughly 10% of all murder cases and a third of all murders of women in Sweden, this rate is rising every year.

Last year 9,360 rapes were reported last year in a 10-million-strong country, which is an increase of 9 percent yet, the feminist Government does little about it.


Edited by Lagom on Monday 26th April 16:52

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Lagom said:
...In Sweden "Honor killings" represent roughly 10% of all murder cases and a third of all murders of women in Sweden, this rate is rising every year...
A few posts back Randy Winkman said he likes the multi-cultural society we live in. The above example is one facet of extreme misogyny that is deeply rooted in many groups' cultures that come to the UK (and evidently Sweden too). There are plenty of decent cultures out there that fit better with my values, it seems to me we could be more selective on the cultures we allow in.

I've worked with and had business meetings with men from such a misogynistic culture in the UK and was staggered that for example: a wife had to stay upstairs out of sight whilst we were there, another married his 14 year old cousin and brought her to the UK, another wife not allowed out without male company, another not allowed to learn English as there was no need as husband would do any talking necessary at the doctors and so on.

When I've relayed these experiences here in the past some have said it's all lies and I'm racist etc. Well believe what you like but that ill treatment of women is not for me even if others on this thread are loving it.

FWIW one of my ancestors was an immigrant fleeing certain death who came to this country through legal channels; I can't understand why so many leaving France in boats to enter the UK illegally think it's ok that their first act in this country is to break the law.

This thread is very illuminating; can't believe 3 bombs in 3 days in Sweden, unbelievable.

mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Thursday 6th May 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56977771

Honour killings that quintessential Swedish past time.

Although there is still a lot of denying that it is an immigrant issue.

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Thursday 6th May 2021
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Welcome to another peaceful day in Sweden.

3 explosions in Malmö within 30 minutes of each other. Several residential tower blocks evacuated.

https://www.sydsvenskan.se/2021-05-06/larm-om-tre-...

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Thursday 6th May 2021
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mrporsche said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56977771

Honour killings that quintessential Swedish past time.

Although there is still a lot of denying that it is an immigrant issue.
Another immigrant woman was saved by police, she was found injured and unconscious in a storage drawer under a bed with her husband about to remove her head with a saw.



Edited by Lagom on Thursday 6th May 09:45

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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In today's news from Absurdistan, criminal gangs in Gothenburg have been setting up makeshift roadblocks in residential areas to stop and search vehicles and their occupants, this isn't illegal in Sweden.

There are now calls on the Swedish Government to make it a criminal offence to establish such roadblocks, carrying a tough penalty.

BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Lagom said:
In today's news from Absurdistan, criminal gangs in Gothenburg have been setting up makeshift roadblocks in residential areas to stop and search vehicles and their occupants, this isn't illegal in Sweden.

There are now calls on the Swedish Government to make it a criminal offence to establish such roadblocks, carrying a tough penalty.
Really? Whereabouts?

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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BrabusMog said:
Really? Whereabouts?
Northwest Gotenburg. Rival gangs are controlling who enters, and who leaves, their areas.

BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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Lagom said:
BrabusMog said:
Really? Whereabouts?
Northwest Gotenburg. Rival gangs are controlling who enters, and who leaves, their areas.
To be fair, not that I am excusing it if it’s happening, you’re not gonna go to either of those areas if you don’t live there. They’re rough to begin with.

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Monday 10th May 2021
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In today's news from Sweden, a 17-year-old Syrian "boy" who raped 3 girls aged 12, 13, and 15 has been sentenced to 12 months in juvenile care. He pleaded not guilty saying the girls forced themselves on him, he is also convicted of sexual harassment, drug offences, and weapon offences.

The 15-year-old victim who was raped whilst asleep attempted suicide after the assault.

The 13-year-old girl herself had an immigrant background and the verdict states that she was afraid of what would happen to her if it emerged that she had been sexually abused. She was afraid of being sent back to Syria, of being divorced(!) or killed.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 10th May 2021
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Lagom said:
In today's news from Absurdistan, criminal gangs in Gothenburg have been setting up makeshift roadblocks in residential areas to stop and search vehicles and their occupants, this isn't illegal in Sweden.

There are now calls on the Swedish Government to make it a criminal offence to establish such roadblocks, carrying a tough penalty.
I was shocked how many immigrants (who were mainly young men) were hanging around the town center and on street corners last time I was in Gothenburg.

It had changed hugely from the previous time I’d been there.

Sweden has a lot of problems due to letting in so many people who aren’t buying into the local way of life. It’s very sad to see the changes in some areas.

mrporsche

742 posts

42 months

Monday 10th May 2021
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Lagom said:
In today's news from Sweden, a 17-year-old Syrian "boy" who raped 3 girls aged 12, 13, and 15 has been sentenced to 12 months in juvenile care. He pleaded not guilty saying the girls forced themselves on him, he is also convicted of sexual harassment, drug offences, and weapon offences.

The 15-year-old victim who was raped whilst asleep attempted suicide after the assault.

The 13-year-old girl herself had an immigrant background and the verdict states that she was afraid of what would happen to her if it emerged that she had been sexually abused. She was afraid of being sent back to Syria, of being divorced(!) or killed.
You would laugh if it wasn’t so horrendous, a 12 year old forced herself upon him !! Even the suggestion of sending him back to Syria would bring out all manner of young blonde Swedish women calling for him to remain. He has rights ...

Lagom

544 posts

62 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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This mornings news from Swedishstan is just as bleak as normal.

Last night 20+ petrol bombs were thrown in the space of 30mins, in separate incidents, in the town of Eskilstuna (pop. 67k, similar size to Bongor Regis). The town is christened 'Little Mogadishu' due to the number of Somalis living there and it's police 'no-go' areas.

The police station and police vehicles were targeted along with parked cars and caravans.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/sormland/larm-om...

rodericb

6,741 posts

126 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Lagom said:
In today's news from Absurdistan, criminal gangs in Gothenburg have been setting up makeshift roadblocks in residential areas to stop and search vehicles and their occupants, this isn't illegal in Sweden.

There are now calls on the Swedish Government to make it a criminal offence to establish such roadblocks, carrying a tough penalty.
They compromise and will force the criminal gangs to charge a toll to those passing through the roadblocks and will have to pay a 5% tax to the government. That is if the criminal gangs want to engage in this new endeavour.