HS2, whats the current status ?
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spaximus said:
Bristol to London season ticket standard class is £7800 so I guess around that price.
Have they changed the HS2 route then?National Rail season ticket calculator says that a 12mo standard class ticket, between Birmingham New Street and London Euston, would be £5.6k at the moment. So around £6k I'd have thoght.
Swervin_Mervin said:
spaximus said:
Bristol to London season ticket standard class is £7800 so I guess around that price.
Have they changed the HS2 route then?National Rail season ticket calculator says that a 12mo standard class ticket, between Birmingham New Street and London Euston, would be £5.6k at the moment. So around £6k I'd have thoght.
Our company is holding off buying some warehouse units we rent in Sheffield due to the HS2 northern extension taking up a metre of the building. Now they have decided a cut price version instead going through a brand new Mexbrough housing development and through the outskirts of Conisbrough. It is laughable that they seem so inept at getting this thing moving at all and cannot confirm anything at all.
As I posted earlier and I know China is different, but an 800 mile high speed line built in two years and we have spent how many years planning so far and not done anything.
I will be shocked if it goes ahead or Heathrow the way they are dithering.
spaximus said:
Watching the Guy Martin program, they built a 800 mile high speed line 200mph plus in just two years. This will be another 20 at this rate. It will be a toss up which happens first this or heathrow.
And I bet we'll have spent more money than they did building the whole thing before a single sleeper is laid.(yeah I know they have the space, the coin and the loose morals with which to steamroller over things in the way...but we're too far in the other direction! even for the little stuff..i.e. its taken them a week to put a new lamp post in outside my house (and used about 3 different companies to do it; one to dig the hole and pop the post in, one to fill the hole with rocks, the other to tarmac over it..badly).
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Friday 2nd December 20:26
spaximus said:
Watching the Guy Martin program, they built a 800 mile high speed line 200mph plus in just two years. This will be another 20 at this rate. It will be a toss up which happens first this or heathrow.
It will be a toss up what will happen first, this or matter transporters. And I also know which one will be cheaper.Would rather not disclose too much on a public forum, but a business I am involved with were promised that matters (compensation) would be resolved before the end of November on the basis that Royal assent would be granted. Currently there is no communication at all and a real sense that this will drag on for some time yet, that's tough when you want to sell your house or plan your business.
MarshPhantom said:
The point is if it's nearly 4 grand a year for a 15 mile/minute trip how much would it be on HS2 between say London and Birmingham on HS2 for example.
A railway journalist, well known in the industry press told me (and a few others at the same time 
) that the full economic cost of a return trip (including interest/dividends) is about £500. On that basis, and allowing a generous 50% discount on a yearly season ticket would be £65,000. Can't see many takers at that price, so no doubt we would all be subsidising the self-important few who believe that the world will fall apart if they can't make a 100 odd mile journey in 45 minutes less than they can at present.
Marsh Phantom
This may be of interest
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/lo...
It has to be said the Lords have been fairly scathing about HS2 who are coming under more and more flack - hopefully amendments will be made to the bill accordingly before it becomes law
This may be of interest
http://www.railtechnologymagazine.com/Rail-News/lo...
It has to be said the Lords have been fairly scathing about HS2 who are coming under more and more flack - hopefully amendments will be made to the bill accordingly before it becomes law
chrisga said:
I think I saw somewhere HS2 got royal assent yesterday? Not much to say that phase 1 can now go ahead in the news as luckily Doris arrived to divert most of the headlines.
Urghh living a mile away from the route we're in for some disruption.
Yep, seemed to float by without fanfare yesterday. Disruption for a number of my family members on Phase 2, 2 relatives are in line for compensation as they are within 300 metres of the line near Winsford, my sister is within 300 metres of the line in the Cheshire countryside and it will be within half a mile of my parents where the route dissects an already over loaded by-pass and a new housing estate that is just nearing completion. Mind you, with the exception of my sister it is that far down the line (pardon the pun), that they'll be of an age where they don't really care.Urghh living a mile away from the route we're in for some disruption.
HS2 bidder drops out of £170m design deal over cronyism allegations
telegraph said:
A controversial design contract for the £55bn High Speed 2 rail project has been abandoned by the US engineer which won the work following cronyism allegations.
In February American engineering consultancy CH2M Hill was awarded the £170m Phase 2B deal to design parts of the high speed line running from Birmingham to Manchester and Leeds.
However a competitor, Mace, argued that the US business should not have got the deal because of what insiders claim was a “revolving door” for staff between CH2M and HS2 for senior positions.
Four months before the contract was awarded, CH2M executive Roy Hill was seconded to HS2 as interim chief executive when the rail project’s boss quit to join Rolls-Royce.
Then in January CH2M’s European boss Mark Thurston was appointed as the new chief executive of HS2, with the US firm handed the design contract a month later.
In February American engineering consultancy CH2M Hill was awarded the £170m Phase 2B deal to design parts of the high speed line running from Birmingham to Manchester and Leeds.
However a competitor, Mace, argued that the US business should not have got the deal because of what insiders claim was a “revolving door” for staff between CH2M and HS2 for senior positions.
Four months before the contract was awarded, CH2M executive Roy Hill was seconded to HS2 as interim chief executive when the rail project’s boss quit to join Rolls-Royce.
Then in January CH2M’s European boss Mark Thurston was appointed as the new chief executive of HS2, with the US firm handed the design contract a month later.
steveT350C said:
A glimmer of hope...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/795210/Prim...
How will that effect house prices and the weather?http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/795210/Prim...
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