BBC licence fee poll.
Poll: BBC licence fee poll.
Total Members Polled: 1030
Discussion
Nothingtoseehere said:
Well you're always at odds with general opinion.
Young 'uns today couldn't give a toss about the bbc,if it was blocked tomorrow,I doubt most under twenties would even notice.
Hmm, apart from Radio1? BBC3? CBBC? BBC1 during Pitch Battle, Strictly etc. Not to mention the alleged predilection for students to enjoy a bit of Bargain HuntYoung 'uns today couldn't give a toss about the bbc,if it was blocked tomorrow,I doubt most under twenties would even notice.
TTwiggy said:
What general opinion? Do you mean yours?
What evidence do you have that young people are not watching the BBC?
They're not watching TV so much full stop. I think we can safely include the BBC in that. The very notion of the BBC and it's 'unique' funding method I imagine is a curious relic of the past to youngsters.What evidence do you have that young people are not watching the BBC?
They also don't use phones to call people. It's a brave new world out there, come and join us.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/dec/15/face...
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/millennial-ge...
http://uk.businessinsider.com/more-young-people-ar...
GnuBee said:
Hmm, apart from Radio1? BBC3? CBBC? BBC1 during Pitch Battle, Strictly etc. Not to mention the alleged predilection for students to enjoy a bit of Bargain Hunt
You really think swathes of under twenties are watching strictly?My kids never watch CBBC etc,they're always watching one of the kids sky channels.
Nothingtoseehere said:
GnuBee said:
Hmm, apart from Radio1? BBC3? CBBC? BBC1 during Pitch Battle, Strictly etc. Not to mention the alleged predilection for students to enjoy a bit of Bargain Hunt
You really think swathes of under twenties are watching strictly?My kids never watch CBBC etc,they're always watching one of the kids sky channels.
technodup said:
TTwiggy said:
What general opinion? Do you mean yours?
What evidence do you have that young people are not watching the BBC?
They're not watching TV so much full stop. I think we can safely include the BBC in that. The very notion of the BBC and it's 'unique' funding method I imagine is a curious relic of the past to youngsters.What evidence do you have that young people are not watching the BBC?
They also don't use phones to call people. It's a brave new world out there, come and join us.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/dec/15/face...
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/millennial-ge...
http://uk.businessinsider.com/more-young-people-ar...
BBC's iPlayer ;-)
chrispmartha said:
Funny how the first platform it says there has been a rise in viewing from the younger generation is...
BBC's iPlayer ;-)
Aye, because 1) young people watch TV on demand and that will be measured against 'normal' BBC usage and 2) because it's from 2014 and you didn't need to pay the licence to watch iPlayer then.BBC's iPlayer ;-)
The direction of travel is quite obvious. But like with electric/driverless cars it seems many on PH are somewhat behind the times.
Someone said to me today that if a manufacturer made a TV which was purposely built to be unable to tune in to any BBC broadcasts that this would not require a tv licence, in theory you would imagine that to be the case....but would it?, tv licence fee only goes to the BBC and if you have a device which had absolutely zero ability to receive a BBC channel what would the offence be?, after all its not illegal to own a tv.
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said: Someone said to me today that if a manufacturer made a TV which was purposely built to be unable to tune in to any BBC broadcasts that this would not require a tv licence, in theory you would imagine that to be the case....but would it?, tv licence fee only goes to the BBC and if you have a device which had absolutely zero ability to receive a BBC channel what would the offence be?, after all its not illegal to own a tv.
That someone who told you that is wrong. I worked at the BBC up until March of this year. About 99% of people there are white. They don't follow the "diversity" shat of which they spout and show on the telly. In fact, they spend a shat-load on contractors/freelancers who are also white and mainly because they cannot draw such "talent" from the "diverse" and "vibrant" communities which they "champion", well...on the telly at least. I say this because the BBC ID badge has a big statement on the rear about how they encourage 'diversity' and how 'diversity' is a strength.
However, they do have an attitude that they know better than the plebs and they do expect all plebs to pay up. They believe that without "them" the plebs would be lost. The atmosphere after the Brexit vote was almost suicidal, a disbelief with "why didn't the plebs listen to us" often mentioned. The Trump win was much worse. I honestly thought I'd see suicides reminiscent of stock traders in the US jumping out of windows when things went to pot during 1929.
They're many conservatives there who just put up with the PC shat, but they're a ton of gob-ste leftists there who like to spout their nonsense and unchallenged too. My top memory of the place was the usual leftists using office facilities to produce "Refugees Welcome" signs for some shat protest they were attending.
Awful organisation and I'm glad I'm out.
However, they do have an attitude that they know better than the plebs and they do expect all plebs to pay up. They believe that without "them" the plebs would be lost. The atmosphere after the Brexit vote was almost suicidal, a disbelief with "why didn't the plebs listen to us" often mentioned. The Trump win was much worse. I honestly thought I'd see suicides reminiscent of stock traders in the US jumping out of windows when things went to pot during 1929.
They're many conservatives there who just put up with the PC shat, but they're a ton of gob-s
te leftists there who like to spout their nonsense and unchallenged too. My top memory of the place was the usual leftists using office facilities to produce "Refugees Welcome" signs for some shat protest they were attending. Awful organisation and I'm glad I'm out.
Chest Rockwell said:
I worked at the BBC up until March of this year. About 99% of people there are white. They don't follow the "diversity" shat of which they spout and show on the telly. In fact, they spend a shat-load on contractors/freelancers who are also white and mainly because they cannot draw such "talent" from the "diverse" and "vibrant" communities which they "champion", well...on the telly at least. I say this because the BBC ID badge has a big statement on the rear about how they encourage 'diversity' and how 'diversity' is a strength.
Where you worked can't have been representative.BBC said:
At 13.4%, the proportion of black, Asian and ethnic minority (BAME) employees has never been higher and we are on track to meet our 2017 goal of 14.2%, but we recognise that there is more to be done in some areas. Almost half of our employees are women, and at leadership grades, 41.4%. Half of BBC Local Radio breakfast shows now have a female presenter, meeting the ambition set by the Director-General and half of our news correspondents are now women. An aim for 1% of the BBC’s workforce to be apprentices by the end of the current licence fee period has been met based on the October 2015 apprenticeship figures. 45% of the 2015 Television Production apprentices are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 64% coming from families where neither parent attended university. Across our 2015 Digital Journalism apprentices 50% are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 60% coming from families where neither parent attended university.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/diversity/strategy/eir-2016As long as the people appointed are the best applicants and can do their jobs well it's both OK and immaterial what the decimal variation is compared to national stats (86% white for England and Wales in the 2011 census).
turbobloke said:
Chest Rockwell said:
I worked at the BBC up until March of this year. About 99% of people there are white. They don't follow the "diversity" shat of which they spout and show on the telly. In fact, they spend a shat-load on contractors/freelancers who are also white and mainly because they cannot draw such "talent" from the "diverse" and "vibrant" communities which they "champion", well...on the telly at least. I say this because the BBC ID badge has a big statement on the rear about how they encourage 'diversity' and how 'diversity' is a strength.
Where you worked can't have been representative.BBC said:
At 13.4%, the proportion of black, Asian and ethnic minority (BAME) employees has never been higher and we are on track to meet our 2017 goal of 14.2%, but we recognise that there is more to be done in some areas. Almost half of our employees are women, and at leadership grades, 41.4%. Half of BBC Local Radio breakfast shows now have a female presenter, meeting the ambition set by the Director-General and half of our news correspondents are now women. An aim for 1% of the BBC’s workforce to be apprentices by the end of the current licence fee period has been met based on the October 2015 apprenticeship figures. 45% of the 2015 Television Production apprentices are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 64% coming from families where neither parent attended university. Across our 2015 Digital Journalism apprentices 50% are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 60% coming from families where neither parent attended university.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/diversity/strategy/eir-2016As long as the people appointed are the best applicants and can do their jobs well it's both OK and immaterial what the decimal variation is compared to national stats (86% white for England and Wales in the 2011 census).
Chest Rockwell said:
Sorry, but what's your agenda here? I worked there and at all the major sites. Why are you quoting BS written by a PR firm which is backed up by nothing, and just like the Savile whitewash.
Wow, you're likening their employment stats to the Savile cover up? I think you'd be wise to remember that plenty of institutions turned a blind eye on Savile, Cyril Smith and many others, Mrs Thatcher, the Queen of PH knighted him. I am fairly sure that those stats will be subject to an audit, your own experience is anecdotal and I'm not in a position to challenge it but as TB said, it is not representative. Incidentally, I would happily pay double, the quality of their radio output is worth the fee alone.Blue62 said:
Chest Rockwell said:
Sorry, but what's your agenda here? I worked there and at all the major sites. Why are you quoting BS written by a PR firm which is backed up by nothing, and just like the Savile whitewash.
Wow, you're likening their employment stats to the Savile cover up? I think you'd be wise to remember that plenty of institutions turned a blind eye on Savile, Cyril Smith and many others, Mrs Thatcher, the Queen of PH knighted him. I am fairly sure that those stats will be subject to an audit, your own experience is anecdotal and I'm not in a position to challenge it but as TB said, it is not representative. Incidentally, I would happily pay double, the quality of their radio output is worth the fee alone.Einion Yrth said:
Good you can pay mine, I wouldn't give them the steam off my piss.
The good news is the BBC is winding down to become a subscription service. Lots of job cuts etc going on. Even the government can see that the license fee is not viable. Just 1 million folk not paying has caused them to shed around 2000 jobs, close buildings & useless channels. The leftist "wow" twot you replied to is just a cultural marxist. Odd how these leftists always spew "Wow"? As if they're the majority and occupy the moral high ground? BBC is choc full of such twunts.
Chest Rockwell said:
The leftist "wow" twot you replied to is just a cultural marxist. Odd how these leftists always spew "Wow"? As if they're the majority and occupy the moral high ground? BBC is choc full of such twunts.
Cultural Marxist? I'm intrigued, could you explain please professor. You couldn't be more wrong about my politics, I enjoy BBC output and don't mind paying the fee, simple, just like you.Blue62 said:
Send me your bank details and I'll arrange a transfer, I'm based in Nigeria.
Blue62 said:
Cultural Marxist? I'm intrigued, could you explain please professor. You couldn't be more wrong about my politics, I enjoy BBC output and don't mind paying the fee, simple, just like you.
WOW
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