Sugar tax

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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Really?!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/oct/22/ja...

Is (say) a 20% levy on sugar based products really going to stop or discourage people buying them? I don't think so. They'll just face higher shopping bills.

A bag of sugar is a quid in the shops. Frankly I wouldn't bat an eyelid if it was £2, it's just a kitchen staple that gets put in the trolley along with everything else.

Is such a tax workable or of any tangible benefit?


wolves_wanderer

12,373 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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I would like a 105% windfall tax on thick-tongued, mockney tts.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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It won't work. The tax on cigarettes is hardly putting off teenagers from smoking. Where the hell they get that kind of cash to blow on packets of cigarettes is beyond me.

So charging 7p extra a can won't mean SFA.

"Twinkie diet".

wolves_wanderer said:
I would like a 105% windfall tax on thick-tongued, mockney tts.
biglaugh

roachcoach

3,975 posts

155 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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I'd rather get a tax rebate on calories burnt biggrin

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Hoofy said:
"Twinkie diet".
I thinks that's something else...

I don't think it would be a terrible idea to incentivise people away from sugar, but remember - sugar was one of the first truly integrated global commodities and the industry has a lot of money and a lot of organised political influence. Don't be surprised if the government are prepared to take them on.

bazza white

3,558 posts

128 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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5 or10% ish and put back into the NHS wouldn't bother me.


otolith

56,026 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Not going to make any difference unless you start hiking the cost of all high sugar foods - wonder what the chattering classes would think of a 20% tax on their Manuka honey or balsamic vinegar?

Uncle John

4,283 posts

191 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Just another load of nonsense the government and the soon to be Jamie Oliver OBE........

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Contrary to a post above, taxation has had a great affect on children taking to smoking:


http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_108.pdf

From 1982-2014 the number of 15 year olds smoking has dropped from 24% to 8%.


Why wouldn't a sugar tax have a similar outcome?


£56 for a Mars Bar anyone?







BoRED S2upid

19,683 posts

240 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Article clearly states the gov have vetoed it it would never work. A tax on everything with sugar, just soft drinks? Where do you start or stop? Jamie is on a one man crusade against some huge players good luck with that he will be sir Jamie before long.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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FredClogs said:
Hoofy said:
"Twinkie diet".
I thinks that's something else...

I don't think it would be a terrible idea to incentivise people away from sugar, but remember - sugar was one of the first truly integrated global commodities and the industry has a lot of money and a lot of organised political influence. Don't be surprised if the government are prepared to take them on.
They are blaming sugar on obesity.

"Twinkie diet".

otolith

56,026 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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legzr1 said:
Contrary to a post above, taxation has had a great affect on children taking to smoking:


http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_108.pdf

From 1982-2014 the number of 15 year olds smoking has dropped from 24% to 8%.


Why wouldn't a sugar tax have a similar outcome?


£56 for a Mars Bar anyone?
How do you know that was down to prices and not education or other anti-smoking measures? Have you considered plotting it against the number of pirates?

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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legzr1 said:
Contrary to a post above, taxation has had a great affect on children taking to smoking:


http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_108.pdf

From 1982-2014 the number of 15 year olds smoking has dropped from 24% to 8%.


Why wouldn't a sugar tax have a similar outcome?


£56 for a Mars Bar anyone?
Certainly, £56 a chocolate bar would affect things. Why not just ban them outright?

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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otolith said:
How do you know that was down to prices and not education or other anti-smoking measures? Have you considered plotting it against the number of pirates?
I don't know.

But others seem to suggest it is true:

https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheet...


Now, these pirates?

rolleyes

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Hoofy said:
Certainly, £56 a chocolate bar would affect things. Why not just ban them outright?
No ban - the risk takers and top rate tax payers of this fine land are entitled to a treat.

If only they could afford to partake I guess the taste would be all the sweeter.




Perhaps...

otolith

56,026 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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legzr1 said:
I don't know.

But others seem to suggest it is true:

https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/factsheet...
Still just opinion. No proof.

turbobloke

103,863 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Sweet. Another pointless tax or charge in the offing because something must be done and that's something. Has a TV chef got a book deal in the offing?

bodhi

10,450 posts

229 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Can we not put a 105% tax on Olive Oil and bankrupt the fker? Getting a bit fed up of him deciding he wants to change the world (and get himself a Knghthood).

Jamie. I am well aware of how much sugar is in the lovely and refreshing can of Pepsi I'm drinking. And you know something? I do not care. I can just about figure out that if I start putting on weight I need to drink less of it. Kindly leave us the fk alone.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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If it puts an end to the awful Haribo advertising I'm all for it. Unless it affects me negatively in which case it's a st idea

vanordinaire

3,701 posts

162 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Would deep-frying Mars bars make them tax exempt?