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I object to blanket increases like this as a public health panacea type approach.
I eat pretty healthily but the costs of healthy eating for the most part is more expensive than buying crap food - frozen meals, ready meals etc. we cook from fresh most evenings and always have.
Supermarkets should be encouraged to promote healthier foods and fresh fruit and veg and incentivise healthy food options to make them a cost effective option for more households.
I eat pretty healthily but the costs of healthy eating for the most part is more expensive than buying crap food - frozen meals, ready meals etc. we cook from fresh most evenings and always have.
Supermarkets should be encouraged to promote healthier foods and fresh fruit and veg and incentivise healthy food options to make them a cost effective option for more households.
Again the reformulation was a decision to change the product rather than risk a price rise, on the assumption that no-one would really notice the flavour.
It's the 'New Coke' type idea all over again with the same outcome; ultimately you're better off having a drop in sales from a small price bump than you are if you kill your market dead by selling something no-one wants.
A bit like taking the glucose out of a glucose energy drink then wondering why you aren't selling much any more of your 'healthy' version that was demanded by a few loud people who didn't ever buy it anyway.
It's the 'New Coke' type idea all over again with the same outcome; ultimately you're better off having a drop in sales from a small price bump than you are if you kill your market dead by selling something no-one wants.
A bit like taking the glucose out of a glucose energy drink then wondering why you aren't selling much any more of your 'healthy' version that was demanded by a few loud people who didn't ever buy it anyway.
simoid said:
I’m a lover of irn bru and Ribena, amongst various other soft drinks. Unfortunately I can’t ever buy them again as they now taste totally rank.
Instead, I’m on the lager or wine with my dinner at night these days.
Well done government.
I love Irn Bru too. tastes pretty bad now, not much different to the diet version. a really big shame.Instead, I’m on the lager or wine with my dinner at night these days.
Well done government.
ambuletz said:
I love Irn Bru too. tastes pretty bad now, not much different to the diet version. a really big shame.
I’m actually more raging at Barr’s than the government. Coca Cola had the baws to keep the sugar in so it’s actually moved up in my taste preference. It will be interesting to see what the sales figures are. I think I read Scotland is/was the only country in the world where Coca Cola isn’t the biggest soft drink.apparently in scotland Irn bru is sold at normal price (around what coke used to be). but of course its always cheaper daaain south. £1 for a 2 litre bottle when it costs over £2. for a 2litre bottle of pepsi is a bargain. coke have made their bottles in corner shops smaller so now you're paying £2 for 1.5 litres of coke.
I'd happyly pay the extra 50p or so to have normal Irn Bru. still cheaper then coke.
I'd happyly pay the extra 50p or so to have normal Irn Bru. still cheaper then coke.
Moonhawk said:
jmorgan said:
Halb said:
Horizon on tonight, asking why are Brits so fatty? 
Let's see, open hole under nose, shovel stuff in. Think the calories vanish by magic..:ian:. said:
Slow metabolism and a foooking fast pie arm!
no such thing as a 'slow' or 'fast' one. people just eat too much for the amount of movement they do everyday. Michael phelps eats 12,000 cals a day, that's 6x the average recommended intake for an average woman and 4.8x that of an average man. most of it you'd consider 'junk'. it doesn't matter though cos he moves enough day to day to burn it all.ambuletz said:
simoid said:
I’m a lover of irn bru and Ribena, amongst various other soft drinks. Unfortunately I can’t ever buy them again as they now taste totally rank.
Instead, I’m on the lager or wine with my dinner at night these days.
Well done government.
I love Irn Bru too. tastes pretty bad now, not much different to the diet version. a really big shame.Instead, I’m on the lager or wine with my dinner at night these days.
Well done government.
Hate to say it chaps, but after years of sugary crap drinks, your tastebuds have been well & truly f
ked.
It's like people who give up sugar in tea & coffee... tastes rank to begin with, but after a while, you get accustomed to it. If you later add sugar again it tastes way too sickly sweet.
I applaud the sugar tax. I think the rates should be doubled & it should be extended to cereals, snack bars & confectionery.
ked.It's like people who give up sugar in tea & coffee... tastes rank to begin with, but after a while, you get accustomed to it. If you later add sugar again it tastes way too sickly sweet.
I applaud the sugar tax. I think the rates should be doubled & it should be extended to cereals, snack bars & confectionery.
zygalski said:
Hate to say it chaps, but after years of sugary crap drinks, your tastebuds have been well & truly fked.
It's like people who give up sugar in tea & coffee... tastes rank to begin with, but after a while, you get accustomed to it. If you later add sugar again it tastes way too sickly sweet.
I applaud the sugar tax. I think the rates should be doubled & it should be extended to cereals, snack bars & confectionery.
I think your taste buds have been fked.It's like people who give up sugar in tea & coffee... tastes rank to begin with, but after a while, you get accustomed to it. If you later add sugar again it tastes way too sickly sweet.
I applaud the sugar tax. I think the rates should be doubled & it should be extended to cereals, snack bars & confectionery.
ked by forgetting to put the sugar in.I sometimes have tea and coffee with sugar, sometimes without, according to mood. They are different drinks like instant coffee vs filter.
Well we're eating & drinking far more sugar than ever & we've become a nation of diseased fat bds with t2 diabetes now common.
I think we should drastically reduce sugar consumption.
If hitting people on their pockets proves effective in a reduction in sugar use, then in my book that's great.
ds with t2 diabetes now common.I think we should drastically reduce sugar consumption.
If hitting people on their pockets proves effective in a reduction in sugar use, then in my book that's great.
zygalski said:
Well we're eating & drinking far more sugar than ever & we've become a nation of diseased fat bds with t2 diabetes now common.
I think we should drastically reduce sugar consumption.
If hitting people on their pockets proves effective in a reduction in sugar use, then in my book that's great.
Sugar consumption in the UK has been dropping for years.ds with t2 diabetes now common.I think we should drastically reduce sugar consumption.
If hitting people on their pockets proves effective in a reduction in sugar use, then in my book that's great.
Obesity rate levelled out about 10 years ago.
Obesity is the risk factor for diabetes, not sugar consumption itself.
There is such a thing as freedom of choice.
Dr Jekyll said:
zygalski said:
Well we're eating & drinking far more sugar than ever & we've become a nation of diseased fat bds with t2 diabetes now common.
I think we should drastically reduce sugar consumption.
If hitting people on their pockets proves effective in a reduction in sugar use, then in my book that's great.
Sugar consumption in the UK has been dropping for years.ds with t2 diabetes now common.I think we should drastically reduce sugar consumption.
If hitting people on their pockets proves effective in a reduction in sugar use, then in my book that's great.
Obesity rate levelled out about 10 years ago.
Obesity is the risk factor for diabetes, not sugar consumption itself.
There is such a thing as freedom of choice.
It used to be that you had a takeaway maybe once a week as a treat. Now lots of families have them 2 or 3 times per week.
Sugar is also prevalent in processed foods & ready meals, both of which we consume now more than ever.
There are also now historically increased levels of sugar in confectionery, especially where cocoa is an ingredient, since cocoa has increased in price over the last few years & sugar & oil is cheap.
Many big brands have reformulated their oil, sugar & cocoa products, with increased sugar levels.
If a sugar consumption has been dropping for years, then I assume you think that the tax is fine, since it targets high sugar products.
You can't have it both ways.
Edited by zygalski on Saturday 26th May 13:21
Dr Jekyll said:
zygalski said:
If a sugar consumption has been dropping for years, then I assume you think that the tax is fine, since it targets high sugar products.
You can't have it both ways.
That makes literally no sense at all.You can't have it both ways.
A tax on high sugar products hits high sugar products.
According to you, less sugar is being consumed, QED less high sugar products.
The impact on people of a sugar tax is less now (according to you) than it would have been years ago.
Therefore, I really don't know what your issue is, unless you think high sugar products are inherently healthy and therefore consumption should be encouraged?
zygalski said:
Dr Jekyll said:
zygalski said:
If a sugar consumption has been dropping for years, then I assume you think that the tax is fine, since it targets high sugar products.
You can't have it both ways.
That makes literally no sense at all.You can't have it both ways.
A tax on high sugar products hits high sugar products.
According to you, less sugar is being consumed, QED less high sugar products.
The impact on people of a sugar tax is less now (according to you) than it would have been years ago.
Therefore, I really don't know what your issue is, unless you think high sugar products are inherently healthy and therefore consumption should be encouraged?
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