Can we talk about Germany for a bit?

[don'tbesilly]

Bluebarge said:

Utter, utter balls. My post was addressed to v2850. If you cannot find any racist element in the frankly shocking garbage he has posted then you are clearly beyond redemption.

Can you point out the racist elements that v2850 has posted, I need redeeming obviously because I'm struggling to see anything racist at all.

[Europa1]

v8250 said:

You'll find that my words clearly show I am not 'on the fence' but ...

I suspect we may need a side order of whoosh parrot, Table 2...

[Bluebarge]

Sam All said:

The monkey who will hear no evil, see no evil - wake up sunshine, these migrants are not all Mother Teresas.

I'm sure they are not. However, by the same logic, the fact that some may be undesirable does not justify throwing out the rest of them or stopping genuine refugees or asylum-seekers from coming here if there is no viable alternative.

And if any refugees/asylum-seekers have been involved in these attacks and are convicted, jail then expulsion should be their lot.

[Bluebarge]

don'tbesilly said:

Bluebarge said:

Utter, utter balls. My post was addressed to v2850. If you cannot find any racist element in the frankly shocking garbage he has posted then you are clearly beyond redemption.

Can you point out the racist elements that v2850 has posted, I need redeeming obviously because I'm struggling to see anything racist at all.

> People, it is time to wake up to the fact that these immigrant types do not live to the same ethical and social standards as we do. The longer they are permitted entry into the EU the greater number of physical and sexual assaults <

There you go. HTH.

[jjlynn27]

eharding said:

jjlynn27 said:

gruffalo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046

Germany, a country that has opened it's doors to many leaving the Middle East, may Merkel regret what she has done or is this sort of collateral damage acceptable?

So glad that we have limited the number we accept and the 20,000 to my mind needs to be reviewed/delayed till the full impact on other countries can be assessed.

I am shocked that this could happen in Germany, a country I visit regularly and have aways considered as very safe.

I'm shocked that you are still allowed to post on this forum after your rather idiotic outburst during Christmas. I'm even more shocked that you are allowed unsupervised access to the internet.

eta; better?

Edited by jjlynn27 on Tuesday 5th January 13:30

Umm - are you sure you're not confusing gruffalo with Groucho - who did indeed go super-nova on Christmas Day, after more than one Croft Original too many?

Indeed, sincere apologies to gruffalo. Mea culpa.

[Europa1]

jjlynn27 said:

eharding said:

jjlynn27 said:

gruffalo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046

Germany, a country that has opened it's doors to many leaving the Middle East, may Merkel regret what she has done or is this sort of collateral damage acceptable?

So glad that we have limited the number we accept and the 20,000 to my mind needs to be reviewed/delayed till the full impact on other countries can be assessed.

I am shocked that this could happen in Germany, a country I visit regularly and have aways considered as very safe.

I'm shocked that you are still allowed to post on this forum after your rather idiotic outburst during Christmas. I'm even more shocked that you are allowed unsupervised access to the internet.

eta; better?

Edited by jjlynn27 on Tuesday 5th January 13:30

Umm - are you sure you're not confusing gruffalo with Groucho - who did indeed go super-nova on Christmas Day, after more than one Croft Original too many?

Indeed, sincere apologies to gruffalo. Mea culpa.

OK, now I'm curious - what on earth did Groucho post on Christmas da?

[don'tbesilly]

Bluebarge said:

don'tbesilly said:

Bluebarge said:

Utter, utter balls. My post was addressed to v2850. If you cannot find any racist element in the frankly shocking garbage he has posted then you are clearly beyond redemption.

Can you point out the racist elements that v2850 has posted, I need redeeming obviously because I'm struggling to see anything racist at all.

> People, it is time to wake up to the fact that these immigrant types do not live to the same ethical and social standards as we do. The longer they are permitted entry into the EU the greater number of physical and sexual assaults <

There you go. HTH.

http://www.infowars.com/norway-immigrants-brutally-gang-rape-14-year-old-girl-one-gets-off-with-community-service/

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedi...

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mainstream-media...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/sweden-opened-it...

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/europes...

http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/italy-muslim-immig...

[markcoznottz]

Bluebarge said:

don'tbesilly said:

Bluebarge said:

Utter, utter balls. My post was addressed to v2850. If you cannot find any racist element in the frankly shocking garbage he has posted then you are clearly beyond redemption.

Can you point out the racist elements that v2850 has posted, I need redeeming obviously because I'm struggling to see anything racist at all.

> People, it is time to wake up to the fact that these immigrant types do not live to the same ethical and social standards as we do. The longer they are permitted entry into the EU the greater number of physical and sexual assaults <

There you go. HTH.

The majority will be Muslim then, of that there is no doubt. Why no background on them? What language? Immigration status etc? Clothing? By leaving social media to fill in the gaps it tars all immigration. The liberal elite get the public they deserve. There will be problems if we import a Muslim male underclass, we already have our own underclass. These individuals will form ghettos.

[markcoznottz]

Bluebarge said:

don'tbesilly said:

Bluebarge said:

Utter, utter balls. My post was addressed to v2850. If you cannot find any racist element in the frankly shocking garbage he has posted then you are clearly beyond redemption.

Can you point out the racist elements that v2850 has posted, I need redeeming obviously because I'm struggling to see anything racist at all.

> People, it is time to wake up to the fact that these immigrant types do not live to the same ethical and social standards as we do. The longer they are permitted entry into the EU the greater number of physical and sexual assaults <

There you go. HTH.

The majority will be Muslim then, of that there is no doubt. Why no background on them? What language? Immigration status etc? Clothing? By leaving social media to fill in the gaps it tars all immigration. The liberal elite get the public they deserve. There will be problems if we import a Muslim male underclass, we already have our own underclass. These individuals will form ghettos.

[Bluebarge]

don'tbesilly said:

http://www.infowars.com/norway-immigrants-brutally...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedi...

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mainstream-media...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/sweden-opened-it...

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/europes...

http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/italy-muslim-immig...

Well you've really nailed your colours to the mast haven't you?

I know you're not interested in balance but, if you wanted to convince anyone who wasn't already pre-disposed to wearing knee-length boots and armbands, you would need to post links to identical crimes carried out by non-immigrants, and demonstrate that there has been a statistical increase in similar crimes as a result of recent immigration, which goes beyond the obvious causal link that more people = more crime.

I won't hold my breath while you do it.

[gruffalo]

jjlynn27 said:

eharding said:

jjlynn27 said:

gruffalo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35231046

Germany, a country that has opened it's doors to many leaving the Middle East, may Merkel regret what she has done or is this sort of collateral damage acceptable?

So glad that we have limited the number we accept and the 20,000 to my mind needs to be reviewed/delayed till the full impact on other countries can be assessed.

I am shocked that this could happen in Germany, a country I visit regularly and have aways considered as very safe.

I'm shocked that you are still allowed to post on this forum after your rather idiotic outburst during Christmas. I'm even more shocked that you are allowed unsupervised access to the internet.

eta; better?

Edited by jjlynn27 on Tuesday 5th January 13:30

Umm - are you sure you're not confusing gruffalo with Groucho - who did indeed go super-nova on Christmas Day, after more than one Croft Original too many?

Indeed, sincere apologies to gruffalo. Mea culpa.

Thank you, apology accepted, easy mistake to make:-)

I was racking what I have left of a brain wondering what I had done.

[don'tbesilly]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

There was no cherry picking involved at all, google it yourself.

If as you suggested that I did cherry pick, which ones in particular are not true?
Or perhaps the stories are all false.

As you doubt the reports, can you come up with any links that tell it differently?

[Axionknight]

Europa1 said:

OK, now I'm curious - what on earth did Groucho post on Christmas da?

A load of racist drivel regarding Islam that was deleted in fairly short order.

He was being a right tool.

[benjj]

Bluebarge said:

> People, it is time to wake up to the fact that these immigrant types do not live to the same ethical and social standards as we do. The longer they are permitted entry into the EU the greater number of physical and sexual assaults <

There you go. HTH.

Balderdash.

There is absolutely nothing "racist" in that statement.

[gruffalo]

Bluebarge said:

don'tbesilly said:

http://www.infowars.com/norway-immigrants-brutally...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedi...

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mainstream-media...

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/23/sweden-opened-it...

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/06/europes...

http://pamelageller.com/2015/08/italy-muslim-immig...

Well you've really nailed your colours to the mast haven't you?

I know you're not interested in balance but, if you wanted to convince anyone who wasn't already pre-disposed to wearing knee-length boots and armbands, you would need to post links to identical crimes carried out by non-immigrants, and demonstrate that there has been a statistical increase in similar crimes as a result of recent immigration, which goes beyond the obvious causal link that more people = more crime.

I won't hold my breath while you do it.

I haven't looked at them all but I did click on the second one down and it mentions that the population increased from 9m to 9.5m while reported rapes increase 500% over the same period so some some mention of population increase.

I have not looked at all the links but in the case I have mentioned there must be another factor other than just population increase to get a 5 fold increase in reported rape cases.

[don'tbesilly]

Bluebarge said:

Well you've really nailed your colours to the mast haven't you?

I know you're not interested in balance but, if you wanted to convince anyone who wasn't already pre-disposed to wearing knee-length boots and armbands, you would need to post links to identical crimes carried out by non-immigrants, and demonstrate that there has been a statistical increase in similar crimes as a result of recent immigration, which goes beyond the obvious causal link that more people = more crime.

I won't hold my breath while you do it.

Nailed my colours to the mast? No, I posted some random links based on a simple Google search, no balance admittedly, purely a very rudimentary exercise.


Please do hold your breath.

[Sam All]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Would you be as comfortable with your 16 year old daughter walking in an immigrant area as in a non-immigrant area?

[Prizam]

fk balance... there were thousands of them at it. And numerous news articles from different sources backing it up.

Can you imagine being the poor sod who has to watch his wife and daughter getting groped and swamped by huge gangs of these men? how would you feel? What would you think?

You cannot tar an entire group of people with the same brush, because undoubtedly there will be some good people in there. However, it will be one or two in a thousand.

This really is the tip of the iceberg, and the influx of migrants will drag Europe down to the same level as the lands that they came from.

[benjj]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

He said THESE immigrant types. The these makes all the difference. I think it reasonable and fair to assume he used that phrase as a way of specifying those who came in the great migrant gangfk of 2015, be they Syrian, Lybian, Iraqi or whatever.

Also, they do have very different ethical standards. Some the same, some better, some worse. But different none the less.

You're looking for racism where there isn't any.

[Bluebarge]

don'tbesilly said:

Nailed my colours to the mast? No, I posted some random links based on a simple Google search, no balance admittedly, purely a very rudimentary exercise.


Please do hold your breath.

And the titles to "random" links were all very revealing. To save time, you could just as easily have posted "Them darkies are after our white women". It really is like Blazing Saddles in here some days.