Man in Scotland arrested over dog's 'Nazi salute'.
Discussion
Boydie88 said:
ape x said:
No my point is exactly that...they aren't being locked up...so why the outrage!!!111 that we have our freedom to make jokes being eroded...
Its pretty clear the Police messed this one up, the Police are to blame for this, no one else is.
So taking that aside, Dankula was free to make his 'joke' apart from the fact the Police felt they had nothing better to do than to arrest him....
As has been confirmed no Jews complained.... so there you go.
So yeah. Based on that i may just donate now.
Dankula is my type of bloke anyway. I have a hipster beard, drive couple of slammed scene cars and like to wind people up to get reactions...
He's also anti the Islamisation of Western society, so not exactly your guy going by your screeching in other threads. Its pretty clear the Police messed this one up, the Police are to blame for this, no one else is.
So taking that aside, Dankula was free to make his 'joke' apart from the fact the Police felt they had nothing better to do than to arrest him....
As has been confirmed no Jews complained.... so there you go.
So yeah. Based on that i may just donate now.
Dankula is my type of bloke anyway. I have a hipster beard, drive couple of slammed scene cars and like to wind people up to get reactions...
The only way you have wound people up on here are your inane posts and inability to use the word 'HAVE'.
I am pretty sure if you ask a normal Muslim bloke like Countdown he would say the same....
Nothing wrong with being anti ISIS you crazy?!
You seriously think that because I believe we should not judge all Muslims by the bad apples, that i somehow as a white Englishman want the UK to be Islamic!!!! Oh my God.....
Edited by ape x on Friday 27th April 09:48
Zoon said:
What I don't understand is why the guy is being taken to court.
I don't remember Jimmy Carr getting into trouble with "people say there is safety in numbers, try telling that to 6 million Jews"
Because instead of looking for rapists and thieves etc the Police thought this more worthy of their time.... having had ZERO complaints from the public.... go figure....I don't remember Jimmy Carr getting into trouble with "people say there is safety in numbers, try telling that to 6 million Jews"
The Police messed up big time, monumental waste of tax payers money and in the process made someone famous.
This may be just an "anecdote" to some, but my mate is a DCI who is coming up for retirement in a few months.
He has been looking at jobs, but also being asked to stay on. He is control room based now, and knows who does what. He says that sadly, there are large numbers of purely office based, computer based officers now who over 85% of their time is spent investigating "hate crimes" all on social media.
Now if that is true, and i have no reason to think it is not, it may be "specialising" but is may also be just trying to hit clear up stats for "crimes" .
Maybe it is about time Facebook started to pay for officers to investigate things like this if it is so necessary. Or shut Facebook down..
He has been looking at jobs, but also being asked to stay on. He is control room based now, and knows who does what. He says that sadly, there are large numbers of purely office based, computer based officers now who over 85% of their time is spent investigating "hate crimes" all on social media.
Now if that is true, and i have no reason to think it is not, it may be "specialising" but is may also be just trying to hit clear up stats for "crimes" .
Maybe it is about time Facebook started to pay for officers to investigate things like this if it is so necessary. Or shut Facebook down..
poo at Paul's said:
This may be just an "anecdote" to some, but my mate is a DCI who is coming up for retirement in a few months.
He has been looking at jobs, but also being asked to stay on. He is control room based now, and knows who does what. He says that sadly, there are large numbers of purely office based, computer based officers now who over 85% of their time is spent investigating "hate crimes" all on social media.
Now if that is true, and i have no reason to think it is not, it may be "specialising" but is may also be just trying to hit clear up stats for "crimes" .
Maybe it is about time Facebook started to pay for officers to investigate things like this if it is so necessary. Or shut Facebook down..
It probably has the reverse effect on overall stats as a crime must be created in order for it to be cleared up, and those that aren't add to the 'unsolved' pile. There will probably be some march towards metrics involved somewhere along the line though. I'm sure Charlie Brooker would do a good extrapolation on this phenomenon towards it's illogical conclusion, i.e. creation of a cyber police force, an algorithmic detection system, automatic fines as per traffic law to finance it, mission creep leading to penalties for uttering anything less than pleasantries etc etc. It's an interesting field. He has been looking at jobs, but also being asked to stay on. He is control room based now, and knows who does what. He says that sadly, there are large numbers of purely office based, computer based officers now who over 85% of their time is spent investigating "hate crimes" all on social media.
Now if that is true, and i have no reason to think it is not, it may be "specialising" but is may also be just trying to hit clear up stats for "crimes" .
Maybe it is about time Facebook started to pay for officers to investigate things like this if it is so necessary. Or shut Facebook down..
Edited by andy_s on Friday 27th April 12:06
I imagine this is why Jimmy Carr hasn't been arrested, they find it on social media and as Dankula wasn't a well know comedian they messed up.
I imagine the Police would like this to disappear now, but instead it will carry on with the donations and the Police will have to spend more time and money on it. What a waste.
It will make the Police look more inept and authoritarian, gain more anti Police state sentiment etc etc.
So yeah...keep on donating, i have actually donated now even though any costs to the Police will come out of public purse....
I imagine the Police would like this to disappear now, but instead it will carry on with the donations and the Police will have to spend more time and money on it. What a waste.
It will make the Police look more inept and authoritarian, gain more anti Police state sentiment etc etc.
So yeah...keep on donating, i have actually donated now even though any costs to the Police will come out of public purse....
ape x said:
I imagine this is why Jimmy Carr hasn't been arrested, they find it on social media and as Dankula wasn't a well know comedian they messed up.
I imagine the Police would like this to disappear now, but instead it will carry on with the donations and the Police will have to spend more time and money on it. What a waste.
It will make the Police look more inept and authoritarian, gain more anti Police state sentiment etc etc.
So yeah...keep on donating, i have actually donated now even though any costs to the Police will come out of public purse....
What costs to police do you expect with an appeal court case? I imagine the Police would like this to disappear now, but instead it will carry on with the donations and the Police will have to spend more time and money on it. What a waste.
It will make the Police look more inept and authoritarian, gain more anti Police state sentiment etc etc.
So yeah...keep on donating, i have actually donated now even though any costs to the Police will come out of public purse....
That particular Jimmy Carr joke is tame tbh. There are examples of jokes that push the envelope, but none of them should ever be quashed by the police or courts. If people stop enjoying the jokes, they will stop watching/listening.
If we can’t risk offence in different mediums, from comedy to debate, then we can’t actually talk about anything serious.
Spanna said:
ape x said:
I imagine this is why Jimmy Carr hasn't been arrested, they find it on social media and as Dankula wasn't a well know comedian they messed up.
I imagine the Police would like this to disappear now, but instead it will carry on with the donations and the Police will have to spend more time and money on it. What a waste.
It will make the Police look more inept and authoritarian, gain more anti Police state sentiment etc etc.
So yeah...keep on donating, i have actually donated now even though any costs to the Police will come out of public purse....
What costs to police do you expect with an appeal court case? I imagine the Police would like this to disappear now, but instead it will carry on with the donations and the Police will have to spend more time and money on it. What a waste.
It will make the Police look more inept and authoritarian, gain more anti Police state sentiment etc etc.
So yeah...keep on donating, i have actually donated now even though any costs to the Police will come out of public purse....
That particular Jimmy Carr joke is tame tbh. There are examples of jokes that push the envelope, but none of them should ever be quashed by the police or courts. If people stop enjoying the jokes, they will stop watching/listening.
If we can’t risk offence in different mediums, from comedy to debate, then we can’t actually talk about anything serious.
All funny, all clever, all playing with offensive comedy...
Jim Davidson.... though, to me is st.
I imagine he's popular on PH.
I agree the Police should never get in the way of comedy. They messed up. And they will pay for it as it does yet more harm to the reputation and adds fuel to the flames of a Police / Nanny State.... I await the next anti establishment march were Dankula is wheeled out as guest speaker...
ZedLeg said:
I said he was an alt-right st poster based on the amount of alt right imagery he's used in his videos, I couldn't say whether he himself is politically aligned to the right as I can't find any evidence either way.
Ahh, you mean like a white guy using the N word......? Whereas a black guy can do it and it's ok? So if he WAS alt Right, it would be ok, yeah?
poo at Paul's said:
ZedLeg said:
I said he was an alt-right st poster based on the amount of alt right imagery he's used in his videos, I couldn't say whether he himself is politically aligned to the right as I can't find any evidence either way.
Ahh, you mean like a white guy using the N word......? Whereas a black guy can do it and it's ok? So if he WAS alt Right, it would be ok, yeah?
Is it because you see every black person in one way?
Patrick Bateman said:
ape x said:
Why do you assume every single black person thinks using the N word is OK?
Is it because you see every black person in one way?
He didn't say that.Is it because you see every black person in one way?
As an aside you can use the N word as much as you like, go check out youtube comments it always pops up. Racists moan that they can't use it, but it is in loads of Tarantino films said by white guys, its in loads of films full stop..
It baffles me why people think like this...... you hear it all the time.
Just because it is in a film though or a rap song doesn't mean you should be aloud to call the new black guy at work a "N....."
If you are unhappy that you can't do that because of"PC gone mad!!!1111" then you are simply a racist...
I frequent scene car shows, caps, beards, tatts , slammed cars and hear it all the time. I even know Pakistani lads who say the P word all the time, and among them I can say it too.... but i would not say it to a stranger in the street in anger.....MASSIVE difference...
Anyway any idea when Dankula is going to use our funds to stick one to the Po-po?
Edited by ape x on Friday 27th April 17:10
fblm said:
ape x said:
Why do you assume every single black person thinks using the N word is OK?
Is it because you see every black person in one way?
Troll off tedious childIs it because you see every black person in one way?
ape x said:
Boydie88 said:
ape x said:
No my point is exactly that...they aren't being locked up...so why the outrage!!!111 that we have our freedom to make jokes being eroded...
Its pretty clear the Police messed this one up, the Police are to blame for this, no one else is.
So taking that aside, Dankula was free to make his 'joke' apart from the fact the Police felt they had nothing better to do than to arrest him....
As has been confirmed no Jews complained.... so there you go.
So yeah. Based on that i may just donate now.
Dankula is my type of bloke anyway. I have a hipster beard, drive couple of slammed scene cars and like to wind people up to get reactions...
He's also anti the Islamisation of Western society, so not exactly your guy going by your screeching in other threads. Its pretty clear the Police messed this one up, the Police are to blame for this, no one else is.
So taking that aside, Dankula was free to make his 'joke' apart from the fact the Police felt they had nothing better to do than to arrest him....
As has been confirmed no Jews complained.... so there you go.
So yeah. Based on that i may just donate now.
Dankula is my type of bloke anyway. I have a hipster beard, drive couple of slammed scene cars and like to wind people up to get reactions...
The only way you have wound people up on here are your inane posts and inability to use the word 'HAVE'.
I am pretty sure if you ask a normal Muslim bloke like Countdown he would say the same....
Nothing wrong with being anti ISIS you crazy?!
You seriously think that because I believe we should not judge all Muslims by the bad apples, that i somehow as a white Englishman want the UK to be Islamic!!!! Oh my God.....
Edited by ape x on Friday 27th April 09:48
ape x said:
fblm said:
ape x said:
Why do you assume every single black person thinks using the N word is OK?
Is it because you see every black person in one way?
Troll off tedious childIs it because you see every black person in one way?
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