How do we think EU negotiations will go?
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O/T, we have started trading quite a bit with a few people in Canada lately, all good stuff and early doors but they like what we have to offer.
However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
KrissKross said:
O/T, we have started trading quite a bit with a few people in Canada lately, all good stuff and early doors but they like what we have to offer.
However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
Greece has no money to spend.However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
PurpleMoonlight said:
KrissKross said:
O/T, we have started trading quite a bit with a few people in Canada lately, all good stuff and early doors but they like what we have to offer.
However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
Greece has no money to spend.However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
PRTVR said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
KrissKross said:
O/T, we have started trading quite a bit with a few people in Canada lately, all good stuff and early doors but they like what we have to offer.
However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
Greece has no money to spend.However we are not trading much with Greece. I could ask my local MP or a bureaucrat in Brussels for help to negotiate a new trade deal for me as we must be doing something wrong...
The EU offers the UK less than absolutely nothing, so there is nothing to negotiate about. If anything we should be negotiating our refund.
KrissKross said:
Absolutely, so why would any of these countries want to negotiate a deal that will make them even more worse off than they are now. Please Mrs May continue giving us free money...
The EU offers the UK less than absolutely nothing, so there is nothing to negotiate about. If anything we should be negotiating our refund.
You can't think of one thing that benefits the UK by being in the EU?The EU offers the UK less than absolutely nothing, so there is nothing to negotiate about. If anything we should be negotiating our refund.
jjlynn27 said:
It's not about 'bags of money'. It's about people who made international companies out of nothing. For every Dyson and JCB bloke, you have more than 100 who think otherwise.
Out of those 195 countries, how many are worth talking about when it comes to trade? What are we going to trade with Lesotho, Burundi, Kiribati and Palau?
Not sure what random television presenter has to do with anything. I was talking about Ron Dennis.
Define "worth"? I guess it will come down to potential market size, but how do we measure that we'll enough? Out of those 195 countries, how many are worth talking about when it comes to trade? What are we going to trade with Lesotho, Burundi, Kiribati and Palau?
Not sure what random television presenter has to do with anything. I was talking about Ron Dennis.
On GDP (relative wealth) 34 of the top 50 countries are non-EU. So 2/3s.
On population, EU countries don't enter until no 15.
It needs more sophistication than that, but I would say "enough" of those 195 are worth dealing with.
That 56%+ and growing of our trade is non-EU could be argued to support that.
Note also that worthiness to trade is not really a good barometer on political constructs like FoM. Indeed the more disparate the other 168 countries are, the more it suggests that the EU's path on that front is... An outlier!
Nothingtoseehere said:
Its a b
h when sanity prevails.
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alfie2244 said:
Perhaps Remoaners need to wonder whether they didn’t win people over precisely is because they thought of them as “stupid” and simple-minded?
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there is no way the EU can spin this to make them look better than us...they will be in the corner and we can chill.
the EU now knows that they give up access to UK if they dont reciprocate. We need to get these out on the table first and leave it there. Take it or we walk.
- 1 All EU citizens with NI number & 5 years of residence + UK income = permanent resident status. counter starts as of Art 50 date + 5 yrs. so last EU citizen will have PR in March 2022. Dependents are subject to same rules as non EU citizens. Or else it will be discriminatory and UK does not discriminate between EU & non EU....the EU does discriminate, but that is why we voted out.
- 2 Our share of net assets of EU balance sheet as of March 17 plus 3 years of net contribution to EU budget = approx £30-50bn. here is the fking cheque.
- 3 All EU regulation is UK regulation as of March 17. All import tariffs for EU goods are same as March 17 = 0%.
- 4 reciprocate similarly or we walk.
there is no way the EU can spin this to make them look better than us...they will be in the corner and we can chill.
the EU now knows that they give up access to UK if they dont reciprocate. We need to get these out on the table first and leave it there. Take it or we walk.
Robertj21a said:
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Not sure why you feel it 'would have been the logical decision to make'. Most people I know were more concerned about sovereignty and immigration controls.Nearly all posters who are spitting blood about Brexit, are selfish. Oh my business will suffer, oh my wife or girl friend may get deported (and if you believe that then it is you who is a f
king moron). It's ok to be selfish just don't come on here spewing your bull st. I voted Leave for my childrens sake and that of the country. Although the damage has already been done in my opinion.Burwood said:
Beat me to it. Every day the EU prove why we shouldn't be a member. One thing that is laughable. 'We must stay because we will get shafted'.
Burwood said:
Slaves didn't run away because they had their nuts cut off too. Most wanted to stay put. We are right to want to leave but the implications of doing so may be painful. That does not make anyone who wants to leave, an idiot!
Nearly all posters who are spitting blood about Brexit, are selfish. Oh my business will suffer, oh my wife or girl friend may get deported (and if you believe that then it is you who is a fking moron). It's ok to be selfish just don't come on here spewing your bull st. I voted Leave for my childrens sake and that of the country. Although the damage has already been done in my opinion.
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king moron). It's ok to be selfish just don't come on here spewing your bull st. I voted Leave for my childrens sake and that of the country. Although the damage has already been done in my opinion.Burwood said:
Beat me to it. Every day the EU prove why we shouldn't be a member. One thing that is laughable. 'We must stay because we will get shafted'.
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Slaves didn't run away because they had their nuts cut off too. Most wanted to stay put. We are right to want to leave but the implications of doing so may be painful. That does not make anyone who wants to leave, an idiot!
Nearly all posters who are spitting blood about Brexit, are selfish. Oh my business will suffer, oh my wife or girl friend may get deported (and if you believe that then it is you who is a fking moron). It's ok to be selfish just don't come on here spewing your bull st. I voted Leave for my childrens sake and that of the country. Although the damage has already been done in my opinion.
Nearly all posters who are spitting blood about Brexit, are selfish. Oh my business will suffer, oh my wife or girl friend may get deported (and if you believe that then it is you who is a f
king moron). It's ok to be selfish just don't come on here spewing your bull st. I voted Leave for my childrens sake and that of the country. Although the damage has already been done in my opinion.Burwood said:
Beat me to it. Every day the EU prove why we shouldn't be a member. One thing that is laughable. 'We must stay because we will get shafted'.
Burwood said:
Slaves didn't run away because they had their nuts cut off too. Most wanted to stay put. We are right to want to leave but the implications of doing so may be painful. That does not make anyone who wants to leave, an idiot!
Nearly all posters who are spitting blood about Brexit, are selfish. Oh my business will suffer, oh my wife or girl friend may get deported (and if you believe that then it is you who is a fking moron). It's ok to be selfish just don't come on here spewing your bull st. I voted Leave for my childrens sake and that of the country. Although the damage has already been done in my opinion.
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king moron). It's ok to be selfish just don't come on here spewing your bull st. I voted Leave for my childrens sake and that of the country. Although the damage has already been done in my opinion.DELETED: Comment made by a member who's account has been deleted.
The first question on the test should have been:- What are the differences between EU Regulations, Directives and Decisions?
I have still yet to meet a single person who could answer that. People on the internet normally can because they look it up and then claim to be clever. No one I've met in person has even attempted to answer it.
How could anyone vote IN or OUT without knowing how the EU impacts our ability to govern ourselves? Everything else is irrelevant.
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