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anyone been running one of these? considering taking on a lease, I currently commute about 60 miles round trip most days, can charge up at work for 3 days per week. My fag packet maths suggests it might be a sensible idea to sign up, and sell off my 2007 outback, which is a tad thirsty, but otherwise a great car, and has been utterly dependable over 50k miles.
Due a new co. car. Usual 320d, C220d on there but no 330e or 350e. There is a Golf GTE however.
I was looking at an XC60 as the replacement but have decided against it on the basis of having the Golf with a view to then putting the BIK / fuel savings over an XC60 into a better family car.
Have driven the Golf, really like it and on the basis of a 20 mile range would be able to cover 2/3rd's of my daily commute using the charge point at work.
What I cant find is if I was charging over night at home what would I be looking at as an equivalent £/mile?
I was looking at an XC60 as the replacement but have decided against it on the basis of having the Golf with a view to then putting the BIK / fuel savings over an XC60 into a better family car.
Have driven the Golf, really like it and on the basis of a 20 mile range would be able to cover 2/3rd's of my daily commute using the charge point at work.
What I cant find is if I was charging over night at home what would I be looking at as an equivalent £/mile?
The cost equivalent per mile depends on the cost of electricity and petrol- if your leccy costs you about 10p/kwh and your petrol is about £1.10 a litre, then the petrol driving cost equivalent of driving on e-mode is about 160mpg.
We have a GTE that we use for a 16 mile round trip commute. I can charge at work most days. When I can charge, the petrol engine never comes on and we use about £1.30 of electricity for the day. On days when the charging sockets are all taken (bloody Leafs!) we get about 80mpg combined. The petrol engine on its own gets about 44-47mpg over 11 miles of A34 and 5 miles of Oxford traffic.
For our specific situation it's absolutely perfect, but if you can't plug it in at both ends of your trip and get to the end of your trip with an empty battery then you're not getting the best use of it.
If you're doing a 60 mile trip then a GTD will be a much better proposition.
We have a GTE that we use for a 16 mile round trip commute. I can charge at work most days. When I can charge, the petrol engine never comes on and we use about £1.30 of electricity for the day. On days when the charging sockets are all taken (bloody Leafs!) we get about 80mpg combined. The petrol engine on its own gets about 44-47mpg over 11 miles of A34 and 5 miles of Oxford traffic.
For our specific situation it's absolutely perfect, but if you can't plug it in at both ends of your trip and get to the end of your trip with an empty battery then you're not getting the best use of it.
If you're doing a 60 mile trip then a GTD will be a much better proposition.
Edited by rsox87 on Thursday 14th July 12:05
rsox87 said:
We have a GTE that we use for a 16 mile round trip commute. I can charge at work most days. When I can charge, the petrol engine never comes on and we use about £1.30 of electricity for the day.
We use an i3 REX also for a 16 mile (8/8) commute .. uses 5Kwh .. costs 24p! Shows how much more efficient a 'real' electric car is :-)rsox87 said:
The cost equivalent per mile depends on the cost of electricity and petrol- if your leccy costs you about 10p/kwh and your petrol is about £1.10 a litre, then the petrol driving cost equivalent of driving on e-mode is about 160mpg.
We have a GTE that we use for a 16 mile round trip commute. I can charge at work most days. When I can charge, the petrol engine never comes on and we use about £1.30 of electricity for the day. On days when the charging sockets are all taken (bloody Leafs!) we get about 80mpg combined. The petrol engine on its own gets about 44-47mpg over 11 miles of A34 and 5 miles of Oxford traffic.
For our specific situation it's absolutely perfect, but if you can't plug it in at both ends of your trip and get to the end of your trip with an empty battery then you're not getting the best use of it.
If you're doing a 60 mile trip then a GTD will be a much better proposition.
That's not far away from my Heath Robinson guesses so thanks for that.We have a GTE that we use for a 16 mile round trip commute. I can charge at work most days. When I can charge, the petrol engine never comes on and we use about £1.30 of electricity for the day. On days when the charging sockets are all taken (bloody Leafs!) we get about 80mpg combined. The petrol engine on its own gets about 44-47mpg over 11 miles of A34 and 5 miles of Oxford traffic.
For our specific situation it's absolutely perfect, but if you can't plug it in at both ends of your trip and get to the end of your trip with an empty battery then you're not getting the best use of it.
If you're doing a 60 mile trip then a GTD will be a much better proposition.
Edited by rsox87 on Thursday 14th July 12:05
I am paying out £230/ month BIK and only achieving 42mpg at the minute.
The BIK saving on the GTE plus the EV /fuel cost should see a saving in the region of £175 a mth (GTD not on the list unfortunately).
We can charge at work so should be ok to cover approx 2/3rds of the commute on EV and longer journeys are usually recoverable business miles anyway.
I can live with a fuel only range of 45 - 47mpg outside of that on the rare occasions it will be needed for longer private journeys.
Just taken a colleagues out for a spin at lunch and it still ticks most of the boxes for me so its time to get one ordered!!
saaby93 said:
Parts of it caught on fire. HTH.saaby93 said:
No idea. You plug the charger in the nose behind the VW badge. But the batteries are in the boot.... so I am guessing something has caused them to go pop. Might have been rear ended. We have a Passat GTE, Mrs goes to work and back in it just using electricity. It's there at the weekend if we need it for a big run into the sticks.
We're in Norway so they're subsidized a bit (to the point new diesel sales in Oslo are finished)
They're well specced for the money, the full electric dash is really worth it if it's available on your lease.
Tested the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, the demo car had done 5k, and was shoddy at that point with door seals falling off and trim rattling. Really put off.
We're in Norway so they're subsidized a bit (to the point new diesel sales in Oslo are finished)
They're well specced for the money, the full electric dash is really worth it if it's available on your lease.
Tested the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, the demo car had done 5k, and was shoddy at that point with door seals falling off and trim rattling. Really put off.
Otispunkmeyer said:
No idea. You plug the charger in the nose behind the VW badge. But the batteries are in the boot.... so I am guessing something has caused them to go pop. Might have been rear ended.
I believe the Golf GTE has its fuel tank relocated to under the boot floor, as the battery pack sits under the rear seats. So my guess is that one has had a rear-end shunt, split the tank and somehow ignited (e.g. hot exhaust or damaged wiring).One option for my next company car is a Golf GTE, however that photo has rather put me off the idea...!
rsox87 said:
The cost equivalent per mile depends on the cost of electricity and petrol- if your leccy costs you about 10p/kwh and your petrol is about £1.10 a litre, then the petrol driving cost equivalent of driving on e-mode is about 160mpg.
We have a GTE that we use for a 16 mile round trip commute. I can charge at work most days. When I can charge, the petrol engine never comes on and we use about £1.30 of electricity for the day. On days when the charging sockets are all taken (bloody Leafs!) we get about 80mpg combined. The petrol engine on its own gets about 44-47mpg over 11 miles of A34 and 5 miles of Oxford traffic.
For our specific situation it's absolutely perfect, but if you can't plug it in at both ends of your trip and get to the end of your trip with an empty battery then you're not getting the best use of it.
If you're doing a 60 mile trip then a GTD will be a much better proposition.
Can't you see how you're thinking and more importantly behaviour is being corralled? We have a GTE that we use for a 16 mile round trip commute. I can charge at work most days. When I can charge, the petrol engine never comes on and we use about £1.30 of electricity for the day. On days when the charging sockets are all taken (bloody Leafs!) we get about 80mpg combined. The petrol engine on its own gets about 44-47mpg over 11 miles of A34 and 5 miles of Oxford traffic.
For our specific situation it's absolutely perfect, but if you can't plug it in at both ends of your trip and get to the end of your trip with an empty battery then you're not getting the best use of it.
If you're doing a 60 mile trip then a GTD will be a much better proposition.
Edited by rsox87 on Thursday 14th July 12:05
saaby93 said:
They had Peugeot doing the paint job?I am looking at a GTE as well.
The A3 ETRON is a bit more money and Im not sure that it will give me a great deal more. I test drove an A3 3 years ago at a special event and it was nice but I ended up getting a Mitsubishi PHEV instead as I wanted the 4 wheel drive and something bigger, besides the A3 was not launched at the time. I have had it for 3 years and the lease is up, its been good but a bit boring, the new model is better but I would prefer the Golf.
My commute is 16 miles round trip and is ideal for electric. As I said, the A3 does not warrant the extra for me as a daily and I have a couple of other cars to keep me excited. I do not like BMW in general and I think the I3 is short of looks, I m not sure there is anything else?
Where are you getting the lease price from as mine is coming out a bit higher than that?
The A3 ETRON is a bit more money and Im not sure that it will give me a great deal more. I test drove an A3 3 years ago at a special event and it was nice but I ended up getting a Mitsubishi PHEV instead as I wanted the 4 wheel drive and something bigger, besides the A3 was not launched at the time. I have had it for 3 years and the lease is up, its been good but a bit boring, the new model is better but I would prefer the Golf.
My commute is 16 miles round trip and is ideal for electric. As I said, the A3 does not warrant the extra for me as a daily and I have a couple of other cars to keep me excited. I do not like BMW in general and I think the I3 is short of looks, I m not sure there is anything else?
Where are you getting the lease price from as mine is coming out a bit higher than that?
My GTE is a company car, so tax-wise it is better than a Golf GTD. My wife uses the car most of the time on short trips in full electric mode.
Average mpg is c100 over 9,000 miles in the last year, but on longer trips mpg drops to c50 as the petrol engine needs to cut in. Don't think I've ever seen it do the full electric range of 28 miles though.
It works well for us as the type of use the GTE gets means it runs in the "sweet spot" of electric mode. We charge at home (see other thread) and have given up on any of the charge points around where we live, they don't always work, cost too much and are not worth the hassle.
As a car to drive, it does a good job. Of course its not so much fun as the rest of my fleet, but in full GTE mode can surprise quite a few cars. And it's beautifully built.
If you are considering one I think the key is to see what type of use its going to get and whether you or someone else is paying for it.
Average mpg is c100 over 9,000 miles in the last year, but on longer trips mpg drops to c50 as the petrol engine needs to cut in. Don't think I've ever seen it do the full electric range of 28 miles though.
It works well for us as the type of use the GTE gets means it runs in the "sweet spot" of electric mode. We charge at home (see other thread) and have given up on any of the charge points around where we live, they don't always work, cost too much and are not worth the hassle.
As a car to drive, it does a good job. Of course its not so much fun as the rest of my fleet, but in full GTE mode can surprise quite a few cars. And it's beautifully built.
If you are considering one I think the key is to see what type of use its going to get and whether you or someone else is paying for it.
Pints said:
Popping in to get a feel. Still have quite a while to choose my next CC but the GTE is currently one of the cheaper options.
Whether it's going to be the right car for an 80 mile round trip however...
My friend has one if you wanted me to put you in touch for a decent poke around? He's a PH'er and very friendly. Whether it's going to be the right car for an 80 mile round trip however...
Pints said:
Popping in to get a feel. Still have quite a while to choose my next CC but the GTE is currently one of the cheaper options.
Whether it's going to be the right car for an 80 mile round trip however...
I have a 2016 GTE as a CC and on the whole am pleased with it. My daily commute is 21 miles each way, so pretty much on the limit of making it a sensible choice economy wise. It enables me to do one way on electric power (the EL range is 23-24 miles at best) and to use the petrol engine in GTE mode (which activates trickle charging / energy recovery) for the beginning of the return journey, this boosts the EL range to 6 or so miles, so I'm getting 27m on EL / 15m on petrol. With shorter journeys being EL only I regularly get 100+ mpg. Overall I think it works out about 7p/mile on combined fuel costs, but I am not on an off peak EL tariff, so it could be less. I get paid my business mileage at a set 1400cc petrol rate, plus the CC tax is comparatively low so, for me as a CC choice it is a 'no brainier'.Whether it's going to be the right car for an 80 mile round trip however...
80 miles / day may well be different. A lot depends on whether this constitutes private mileage (at your cost) or paid for / free fuel business mileage. And if you are able to fully charge at work at no cost. If you can charge both ends, you could achieve a 60m EL / 20m petrol split- which would be pretty attractive. On only one charge only it could be a sub 30m EL / over 50m petrol split. Bear in mind I think on petrol only I think 35mpg+ requires careful driving and anything >60mph absolutely eats the range on EL only. If your 40m journey includes any clear motorway running the EL range will easily be sub 20 miles (... much of my journey is rural back road and busy A-road, typically 40-50mph driving- massively helping range and economy).
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