US Police Shoot Unarmed Man With His Hands Up

US Police Shoot Unarmed Man With His Hands Up

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ZX10R NIN

27,574 posts

125 months

Thursday 22nd June 2017
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Of course we are.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Oakey said:
Are we ignoring that the guy who was shot said "I'm not pulling it out"?
Come on! That's like saying 'cheques in the post', 'of course I didn't do it', and 'I promise, not in your mouth'. People lie.

I'm not saying the cop was right, not at all, but to be reaching for ANYTHING when a US cop is pointing his gun at you is mental. Utterly mental!

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Pesty said:
Everybody still talking thug who attacked a cop?

Funny how these stories never get posted on here.

Guess her life didn't matter.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/06/baltimore-...
Pathetic example of whatabouttery, even for you.

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Matt Harper said:
How many times did the cop say, "Don't reach for it", or "Don't pull it out"?

When you ignore those kind of instructions, in that kind of situation, the outcome is predictable.

If he had a CCW he should have been aware of precisely what his actions should have been.
He got the first bit right (telling the cop he was carrying), but got everything thereafter very wrong.
If he was the kind of person intent on shooting the cop would he have bothered to declare that he had a gun?


Oakey

27,559 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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jshell said:
Oakey said:
Are we ignoring that the guy who was shot said "I'm not pulling it out"?
Come on! That's like saying 'cheques in the post', 'of course I didn't do it', and 'I promise, not in your mouth'. People lie.

I'm not saying the cop was right, not at all, but to be reaching for ANYTHING when a US cop is pointing his gun at you is mental. Utterly mental!
We don't know if he was reaching for anything, the video doesn't show that!

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Oakey said:
jshell said:
Oakey said:
Are we ignoring that the guy who was shot said "I'm not pulling it out"?
Come on! That's like saying 'cheques in the post', 'of course I didn't do it', and 'I promise, not in your mouth'. People lie.

I'm not saying the cop was right, not at all, but to be reaching for ANYTHING when a US cop is pointing his gun at you is mental. Utterly mental!
We don't know if he was reaching for anything, the video doesn't show that!
His GF is saying 'don't'. She can see what's going to happen. Black guy with a CCW, BF still moving hands and a US cop who failed the Toys'R'Us interview...tragedy almost guaranteed. I would have frozen, absolutely still.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Friday 23rd June 2017
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Countdown said:
If he was the kind of person intent on shooting the cop would he have bothered to declare that he had a gun?
You make a very good point, I can't imagine anyone that was considering shooting anyone else telling them that they had a gun
Unfortunately many people don't see it this way and I am miffed as to why this is the case

rscott

14,715 posts

191 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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Any views on this stop - https://www.rt.com/usa/393664-police-aclu-dash-cam... .

Seems like a massive overreaction from the officer - swearing on approach to the vehicle, then nearly strangling the guy by trying to drag him out without undoing the seatbelt.

Spanglepants

1,743 posts

137 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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If you watch that video on youtube instead, this was posted in the comments -

http://www.gomn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ant...

explains what leads up to this.


in the comments
rscott said:
Any views on this stop - https://www.rt.com/usa/393664-police-aclu-dash-cam... .

Seems like a massive overreaction from the officer - swearing on approach to the vehicle, then nearly strangling the guy by trying to drag him out without undoing the seatbelt.

rscott

14,715 posts

191 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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Spanglepants said:
If you watch that video on youtube instead, this was posted in the comments -

http://www.gomn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/ant...

explains what leads up to this.


in the comments
rscott said:
Any views on this stop - https://www.rt.com/usa/393664-police-aclu-dash-cam... .

Seems like a massive overreaction from the officer - swearing on approach to the vehicle, then nearly strangling the guy by trying to drag him out without undoing the seatbelt.
Strangely seems the officer failed to mention the reason the accused couldn't get out the car was due to the seatbelt still being done up..
No doubt the guy isn't an angel, but I don't see that as being an acceptable arrest method.

ACLU's comments - https://www.aclu-mn.org/en/news/blink-eye-police-o... .

ZX10R NIN

27,574 posts

125 months

Saturday 24th June 2017
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You couldn't make it up but maybe it needed to happen for the Police to stop this "In Fear Of My Life" carte blanche excuse they use all the time.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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American cops shoot unarmed Australian woman in her pyjamas for approaching the Police car she called.

They cannot use the excuse she was only black this time, so apparently they're scared of fireworks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-40651470

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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A cop kills a sobbing, unarmed, inebriated, and terrified man who was doing his best to follow the officer's confusing instructions.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/shocking-bod...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Daniel_Shav...

Edited by BlackLabel on Friday 8th December 19:22

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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BlackLabel said:
A cop kills a sobbing, unarmed, inebriated, and terrified man who was doing his best to follow the officer's confusing instructions.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/shocking-bod...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Daniel_Shav...

Edited by BlackLabel on Friday 8th December 19:22
You couldn't pay me to go to that murderous country

Countdown

39,817 posts

196 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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NSFW

If you skip to 4 minutes you'll see somebody's son crying in fear and crawling on the floor towards the cop before the cop shoots him several times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsggrMcoT88

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Countdown said:
NSFW

If you skip to 4 minutes you'll see somebody's son crying in fear and crawling on the floor towards the cop before the cop shoots him several times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsggrMcoT88


TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Hard to believe that the officer has been cleared. Utter, utter murderer.

Why does america allow this to happen? The fact the cop shot for or five rounds at a man on the floor that is obviously inebriated shows me that this cop is out of control and shouldn't be trusted with a water pistol let alone a high powered rifle. To give a drunk multiple instructions like that is a total travesty, to act like your in Iraq dipuring the war and you suspect the guy has murder in mind is disgusting.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Countdown said:
NSFW

If you skip to 4 minutes you'll see somebody's son crying in fear and crawling on the floor towards the cop before the cop shoots him several times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsggrMcoT88
Appalling by the cop (Brailsford). What sort of communication / instruction was that?

Why would he have the suspect (Shaver) to move towards him when he could have him in the prone position with his arms out in front?

This is why, unfortunately, Brailsford was acquitted at court. Shaver reached back towards his waist which gave him the belief (or at least he claimed to have) that he had a gun.




Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 8th December 20:07

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Absolutely horrific.

Words fail me.