Angela Merkel

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jonah35

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3,940 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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David cameron considered a last ditch attempt to negotiate with merkel before the referendum

The above is just one headline today. Why is it that the Germans (especially Angela Merkel) think they are the head of Europe. It seems like no other European head of state has any say. Can you imagine a headline being 'Cameron held last ditch attempts with Italy?'.

Germans have put themselves right in the firing line if and when the EU goes down the pan. A lot of the leave voters saw this and thought its the Germans trying to take over yet again.

Personally i feel italian banks, greek banks and so on (and their economies) will struggle to recover and will need more and more bailouts and this wil cause tension betwee germany and those struggling states.


HerrSchnell

2,343 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Nevermind the Greek and Italian banks, it's Deutsche Bank you should be concerned about.

http://www.visualcapitalist.com/chart-epic-collaps...

Given that the EU project acts as a cover for the recapitalisation of banks it's just a pity we didn't vote out two years ago to avoid taking a bite of the 52 trillion st sandwich which Deutsche Bank will be serving up sometime pretty soon.

jonah35

Original Poster:

3,940 posts

157 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Yeah i know about db, crazy.

I just think she is really ruining germany,

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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jonah35 said:
Yeah i know about db, crazy.

I just think she is really ruining germany,
No st sherlock.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

98 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Indeed.

What with her manipulation of the Germanic physc to her own means (whatever that may eventually reveal itself as, I have my suspicions ) there are many Germans, ossies included, who are deeply upset at the direction she has taken Germany.

It may be that she has acknowledged the writing on the wall and has already, mentally, pressed the destruction button.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

243 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Merkel and the EU gambled, and lost. ( if both actually regard the UK leaving as a loss )

Pan Pan Pan

9,876 posts

111 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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It is funny how the remainers seem able to ignore the massive (upcoming financial disaster) elephants in the corner of the EU room? and yet seem easily able to focus only on talking down a post Brexit UK.
With `friends' such as these, who needs enemies?

Countdown

39,818 posts

196 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Countdown said:
Well that's now, just you wait till we exit oppressive EU and start doing the deals around the World. And they'll crumble. And rue the day when we, finally, took back control of our own destiny.


basherX

2,471 posts

161 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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jonah35 said:
David cameron considered a last ditch attempt to negotiate with merkel before the referendum

The above is just one headline today. Why is it that the Germans (especially Angela Merkel) think they are the head of Europe. It seems like no other European head of state has any say. Can you imagine a headline being 'Cameron held last ditch attempts with Italy?'.

Germans have put themselves right in the firing line if and when the EU goes down the pan. A lot of the leave voters saw this and thought its the Germans trying to take over yet again.

Personally i feel italian banks, greek banks and so on (and their economies) will struggle to recover and will need more and more bailouts and this wil cause tension betwee germany and those struggling states.
You've answered your own question. Within the EU, and certainly within the Eurozone, Germany has the money and the industry. He who pays the piper etc. No-one gives two sts what the Italians think and Hollande isn't considered a grown-up. All the other countries are just hangers on, in spite of what they may tell themselves.

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Countdown said:
I just compared us to Afghanistan.

http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/GB/AF


jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Pan Pan Pan said:
It is funny how the remainers seem able to ignore the massive (upcoming financial disaster) elephants in the corner of the EU room? and yet seem easily able to focus only on talking down a post Brexit UK.
With `friends' such as these, who needs enemies?
You are absolutely right, that PMI report is caused by remainers talking down the economy. It's obvious when you put it like that.

We need more stories like this;

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/691589/Britain-BO...

Britain BOOMS says the express.co.uk.

Crush

15,077 posts

169 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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skyrover said:
Countdown said:
I just compared us to Afghanistan.

http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/GB/AF
I compared with Australia

http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/GB/AU

Unsurprisingly there is more chance of life as a prisoner hehe

Ian Geary

4,481 posts

192 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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skyrover said:
I just compared us to Afghanistan.

http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/GB/AF
So in Afghanistan I would be likely to have 3.5 babies?

Well, I am definitely not going to live there then!

It hurts just thinking about it.


Sam All

3,101 posts

101 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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Explains why millions are headed over here, if any explanation was needed.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Sam All said:
Explains why millions are headed over here, if any explanation was needed.
Yes, it is easier to come and turn a decent country with decent people into a sthole that work to improve your own complete fking sthole into sthole.

EnglishTony

2,552 posts

99 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Sylvaforever said:
Indeed.

What with her manipulation of the Germanic physc to her own means (whatever that may eventually reveal itself as, I have my suspicions ) .
Do tell

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Ian Geary said:
So in Afghanistan I would be likely to have 3.5 babies?

Well, I am definitely not going to live there then!

It hurts just thinking about it.
hehe


gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Countdown said:
You are 30% more likely to be murdered in the UK.

rofl

Kinda puts things in perspective when you read on some threads on here that Germany is going to the dogs!

Murph7355

37,684 posts

256 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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gadgetmac said:
You are 30% more likely to be murdered in the UK.

rofl

Kinda puts things in perspective when you read on some threads on here that Germany is going to the dogs!
Sometimes looking at the absolute figures is more wise....