Uber are getting shirty
Discussion
ClaphamGT3 said:
Because it's easier to use Uber who take payment off my Amex card and e-mail me a receipt within seconds of leaving the cab. My office 'harvests' my inbox for Uber receipts every Friday and matches them to my diary so that they can allocate them to re-chargeable/overhead/personal in oracle. Hey presto, there's a record of expenses, backed by a receipt for clients, my expenses get paid the following Tuesday and I get a downloadable file of all Uber invoices in one place that i can check against my Amex bill at the end of the month
Several taxis a day? Over 100 transactions a month?? That's 'easier' than just using the service and getting an account to pay once a month?? Plus account holder benefits??
Oh well. Must be a special London form of 'easier'.
drainbrain said:
Several taxis a day? Over 100 transactions a month??
That's 'easier' than just using the service and getting an account to pay once a month?? Plus account holder benefits??
Oh well. Must be a special London form of 'easier'.
Most creative agencies I work with use Addison Lee. They book cars for people and put the client name in the notes field. Accounts then deal with the rest. All done through a mobile app. That's 'easier' than just using the service and getting an account to pay once a month?? Plus account holder benefits??
Oh well. Must be a special London form of 'easier'.
I have an Addison Lee account, I prefer it to Uber when in London. When I'm in America I favour Uber because it's a totally different service out there and makes sense.
The only benefit I can see to paying for your own cabs for business is loyalty reward points be it AMEX, Avios or some other form of reward.
drainbrain said:
Why aren't you who regularly use taxis not running accounts? Ok there's probably no such thing as an uber account but the black hacks and private hire should do them. Then you pay weekly or monthly bills and get 'extras' like priority when booking or discount or whatever incentive the firm can think up........or doesn't this exist in London?
Accounts require records/paper which is an issue for black cabs who trouser cashdrainbrain said:
Several taxis a day? Over 100 transactions a month??
That's 'easier' than just using the service and getting an account to pay once a month?? Plus account holder benefits??
Oh well. Must be a special London form of 'easier'.
Uber do business accounts (though don't think they do credit)That's 'easier' than just using the service and getting an account to pay once a month?? Plus account holder benefits??
Oh well. Must be a special London form of 'easier'.
Burwood said:
drainbrain said:
Why aren't you who regularly use taxis not running accounts? Ok there's probably no such thing as an uber account but the black hacks and private hire should do them. Then you pay weekly or monthly bills and get 'extras' like priority when booking or discount or whatever incentive the firm can think up........or doesn't this exist in London?
Accounts require records/paper which is an issue for black cabs who trouser cashrscott said:
Surely if someone has been assaulted, they should be reporting it to the police themselves, not relying on Uber (or any other private organisation) to do it for them? Seems like Uber normally do pass on allegations to TFL (but didn't in one case). https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/13...
As for the medical certificates, this https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1897962/investigatio... suggests it's also minicab drivers getting them. Have TFL insisted all of those get re-tested too?
What I meant was this: if your local independent minicab office had failed to comply with an absolute requirement, would they expect a "discussion" or a penalty / censure / whatever? Why should Uber be different? Would they also get a "discussion" for, say, a driver's ticket for running a red light or some other absolute requirement / offence?As for the medical certificates, this https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1897962/investigatio... suggests it's also minicab drivers getting them. Have TFL insisted all of those get re-tested too?
Edited by rscott on Monday 25th September 12:30
Legacywr said:
skwdenyer said:
miniman said:
Legacywr said:
Why are they reluctant to take payment by card?
Because there is an audit trail. Cash = no tax. But what about all those extra 50ps and £1s that they get which round the price up to a convenient figure for the driver and passenger? I've never had a problem giving them the remaining £1 if it makes it up to a tenner and I know that goes in his pocket
But then sometimes I've only ever had a card on me and no cash, so they have lost their tip in that instance.
Shakermaker said:
I'm sure they have a digital record of what the meter says
But what about all those extra 50ps and £1s that they get which round the price up to a convenient figure for the driver and passenger? I've never had a problem giving them the remaining £1 if it makes it up to a tenner and I know that goes in his pocket
But then sometimes I've only ever had a card on me and no cash, so they have lost their tip in that instance.
Has anyone ever rounded down I wonder?But what about all those extra 50ps and £1s that they get which round the price up to a convenient figure for the driver and passenger? I've never had a problem giving them the remaining £1 if it makes it up to a tenner and I know that goes in his pocket
But then sometimes I've only ever had a card on me and no cash, so they have lost their tip in that instance.
The only place I have had that is tokyo, the driver rounded down from 440 to 400.
jamoor said:
Shakermaker said:
I'm sure they have a digital record of what the meter says
But what about all those extra 50ps and £1s that they get which round the price up to a convenient figure for the driver and passenger? I've never had a problem giving them the remaining £1 if it makes it up to a tenner and I know that goes in his pocket
But then sometimes I've only ever had a card on me and no cash, so they have lost their tip in that instance.
Has anyone ever rounded down I wonder?But what about all those extra 50ps and £1s that they get which round the price up to a convenient figure for the driver and passenger? I've never had a problem giving them the remaining £1 if it makes it up to a tenner and I know that goes in his pocket
But then sometimes I've only ever had a card on me and no cash, so they have lost their tip in that instance.
The only place I have had that is tokyo, the driver rounded down from 440 to 400.
Whoozit said:
Vaud said:
Exactly. 50% of my recent cab journeys have had that excuse.
Or "my cab is in for repair, no machine in this one" or "it's just run out of paper" etc.
The one time recently I took a black cab, the machine worked fine. The audible sigh and look of disgust when I said I'd pay by card, was free. Or "my cab is in for repair, no machine in this one" or "it's just run out of paper" etc.
When you have a speedo that is "not working" nice little people offer "speedo correction" to help fix it. They do this openly in the back of car magazines.
The same services are available for Black Cabs and their fare machine. How much do you want it to show at the end of the month? (how much tax do you want to pay). Of course, this is not free and is highly illegal (this was fact a few years ago and I know one of the guys who had it done monthly)
If you want to pay on cards it scuppers the plan as there will be a paper trail for HMRC. This is why the Black Cabs have fought tooth and nail NOT to have the card machines in their cabs and hate it when you try to pay on one; hence, often they do not work.
Edited by 7795 on Tuesday 26th September 16:45
7795 said:
The fact is this...
When you have a speedo that is "not working" nice little people offer "speedo correction" to help fix it. They do this openly in the back of car magazines.
The same services are available for Black Cabs and their fare machine. How much do you want it to show at the end of the month? (how much tax do you want to pay). Of course, this is not free and is highly illegal (this was fact a few years ago and I know one of the guys who had it done monthly)
If you want to pay on cards it scuppers the plan as there will be a paper trail for HMRC. This is why the Black Cabs have fought tooth and nail NOT to have the card machines in their cabs and hate it when you try to pay on one; hence, often they do not work.
OK, so society's interests are served by some serious regulation here. Just like the PCO used to be renowned for. Who do we write to?When you have a speedo that is "not working" nice little people offer "speedo correction" to help fix it. They do this openly in the back of car magazines.
The same services are available for Black Cabs and their fare machine. How much do you want it to show at the end of the month? (how much tax do you want to pay). Of course, this is not free and is highly illegal (this was fact a few years ago and I know one of the guys who had it done monthly)
If you want to pay on cards it scuppers the plan as there will be a paper trail for HMRC. This is why the Black Cabs have fought tooth and nail NOT to have the card machines in their cabs and hate it when you try to pay on one; hence, often they do not work.
Edited by 7795 on Tuesday 26th September 16:45
Last time I took a black cab I said I needed to pay by card which was all I had on me.
I only mentioned it as I was getting out for him to say ‘not working mate’.
So I asked if the ride was free then because I had no way of getting cash out on the card. It was about an £18 ride so not horrendous but not tiny either.
He got his machine working in about 15 seconds “somehow”.
I only mentioned it as I was getting out for him to say ‘not working mate’.
So I asked if the ride was free then because I had no way of getting cash out on the card. It was about an £18 ride so not horrendous but not tiny either.
He got his machine working in about 15 seconds “somehow”.
skwdenyer said:
rscott said:
Surely if someone has been assaulted, they should be reporting it to the police themselves, not relying on Uber (or any other private organisation) to do it for them? Seems like Uber normally do pass on allegations to TFL (but didn't in one case). https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/13...
As for the medical certificates, this https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1897962/investigatio... suggests it's also minicab drivers getting them. Have TFL insisted all of those get re-tested too?
What I meant was this: if your local independent minicab office had failed to comply with an absolute requirement, would they expect a "discussion" or a penalty / censure / whatever? Why should Uber be different? Would they also get a "discussion" for, say, a driver's ticket for running a red light or some other absolute requirement / offence?As for the medical certificates, this https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1897962/investigatio... suggests it's also minicab drivers getting them. Have TFL insisted all of those get re-tested too?
Edited by rscott on Monday 25th September 12:30
Medical certificates are certainly dodgy, but it needs to be applied across all licensed drivers, not just Uber.
p1stonhead said:
Last time I took a black cab I said I needed to pay by card which was all I had on me.
I only mentioned it as I was getting out for him to say ‘not working mate’.
So I asked if the ride was free then because I had no way of getting cash out on the card. It was about an £18 ride so not horrendous but not tiny either.
He got his machine working in about 15 seconds “somehow”.
Sounds like somebody needs to set up a simple website / app - to send an email to PCO with the reg / licence number of any cab that refuses to take a card payment. Hmm...I only mentioned it as I was getting out for him to say ‘not working mate’.
So I asked if the ride was free then because I had no way of getting cash out on the card. It was about an £18 ride so not horrendous but not tiny either.
He got his machine working in about 15 seconds “somehow”.
skwdenyer said:
p1stonhead said:
Last time I took a black cab I said I needed to pay by card which was all I had on me.
I only mentioned it as I was getting out for him to say ‘not working mate’.
So I asked if the ride was free then because I had no way of getting cash out on the card. It was about an £18 ride so not horrendous but not tiny either.
He got his machine working in about 15 seconds “somehow”.
Sounds like somebody needs to set up a simple website / app - to send an email to PCO with the reg / licence number of any cab that refuses to take a card payment. Hmm...I only mentioned it as I was getting out for him to say ‘not working mate’.
So I asked if the ride was free then because I had no way of getting cash out on the card. It was about an £18 ride so not horrendous but not tiny either.
He got his machine working in about 15 seconds “somehow”.
It was one of the few times I ever took a black cab to be fair. I guess £18 taxed was worth more to him than £0 when it came down to it hehe:
TheLimla said:
Does lyft have the same long term plans as uber regarding driverless cars? Uber only needs to hold the monopoly for a while before it hopes London will be totally dependent on it's driverless taxis.
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