13yr old killed in F50

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anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Vaud said:
fblm said:
Given the fatality what is there to discuss other than cash? The owner is hardly going to accept a repair.
Why? It was heading for auction anyway? A fully restored version would be more valuable?
No it wouldn't. A crash repaired F-car is worth a lot less and be difficult to sell. A 'death crash' car even more so, most dealers won't touch them. They come up for auction occasionally at suspiciously low prices and usually fail to sell. People/investors just don't want them.

Galsia

2,167 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I'd happily pay £20K for it. smile

Dr Interceptor

7,768 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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I certainly wouldn't want it.


Gary C

12,399 posts

179 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Dr Interceptor said:
I certainly wouldn't want it.
Wouldn't bother me. It's an inanimate object, it didn't kill anyone.

Dr Interceptor

7,768 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Gary C said:
Dr Interceptor said:
I certainly wouldn't want it.
Wouldn't bother me. It's an inanimate object, it didn't kill anyone.
I couldn't even keep a Transit van after Dad pranged it badly, and it didn't kill him.

I'd be forever looking at a blemish on the top of the windscreen frame, or door card, wondering if that's where the boy hit/contacted.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Galsia said:
I'd happily pay £20K for it. smile
Everything has it's price. Once repaired it'll probably be squirreled away somewhere abroad for half its pre-crash value and it's history 'forgotten'. Ferrarichat is pretty good at spotting these cars when they come up for auction/sale, they aren't usually very complimentary.

Galsia

2,167 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Hopefully it gets turned into an awesome track car.

NRS

22,131 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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fblm said:
Galsia said:
I'd happily pay £20K for it. smile
Everything has it's price. Once repaired it'll probably be squirreled away somewhere abroad for half its pre-crash value and it's history 'forgotten'. Ferrarichat is pretty good at spotting these cars when they come up for auction/sale, they aren't usually very complimentary.
Had car number reported, no way the history can be lost. If you buy something like this you need to do some proper research.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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NRS said:
fblm said:
Galsia said:
I'd happily pay £20K for it. smile
Everything has it's price. Once repaired it'll probably be squirreled away somewhere abroad for half its pre-crash value and it's history 'forgotten'. Ferrarichat is pretty good at spotting these cars when they come up for auction/sale, they aren't usually very complimentary.
Had car number reported, no way the history can be lost. If you buy something like this you need to do some proper research.
Like I said on somewhere like f-chat all of these cars are 'known'; you're right the history won't be lost but when (an otherwise perfectly good car) finds its new owner in Dubai/Moscow/Tokyo/Beijing he won't be telling anyone he got it half price because a kid died in it, that's what I meant by 'forgotten' sorry.

Vaud

50,389 posts

155 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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fblm said:
Like I said on somewhere like f-chat all of these cars are 'known'; you're right the history won't be lost but when (an otherwise perfectly good car) finds its new owner in Dubai/Moscow/Tokyo/Beijing he won't be telling anyone he got it half price because a kid died in it, that's what I meant by 'forgotten' sorry.
And some owners just won't be bothered, even knowing the history.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Vaud said:
And some owners just won't be bothered, even knowing the history.
I agree and if they don't, they'll get a 'bargain' F50. I'd argue a well rebuilt car is likely to actually be a 'better' car than the 1000 mile museum piece, with the massive added benefit of being usable without destroying its depressed value.

SJK

119 posts

108 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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With regards to seatbelts and public access the accident happened on the carriageway from the public highway and the farm shop so would very much be considered public access.

With regards to the car being written off and reregistering it abroad etc. I imagine the insurance company If they don't sue the driver to recover funds and have to pay out they might try and recoup some through selling the damaged car.

If you wanted to find out which ###/349 cars it wouldn't be too hard I'd you look in the right places online (auction catalogues) and the chassis number can be found also on barchetta.cc, it will be in the court transcripts I think so again the possibility of the car being unwillingly sold to someone unknowingly and the cars history disappearing is very slim. I do wonder what will happen to the car to the point I did the above some weeks ago just to know if I see f50s come up in the future.

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Any developments in court today?

SJK

119 posts

108 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Gameface said:
Any developments in court today?
Not seen anything yet in the press.

Hub

6,430 posts

198 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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So would the car's owner still be in limbo waiting for the trial and whether the car will be written off, or would they have already been able to claim from the storage company's liability insurance?


I'm guessing Evo never ran their article on the car?

SJK

119 posts

108 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Hub said:
So would the car's owner still be in limbo waiting for the trial and whether the car will be written off, or would they have already been able to claim from the storage company's liability insurance?


I'm guessing Evo never ran their article on the car?
The car was loaned to evo on request from the auction house on the basis it was insured by auction house until returned to the owner with a email trail so who knows where he sits financially.

Evo were doing a video to promote the auction with the car being removed from sale so not sure if it had been. The other car they featured was a silver carrera gt you could look into if anything was run on that car for the London 2016 Auction.

Edit: https://youtu.be/6yMHWdGn0rg

Edited by SJK on Wednesday 21st February 20:57

agtlaw

6,702 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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Sounds plausible...

Captain Smerc

3,018 posts

116 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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It's coming on the BBC 1 news tonight .

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 22nd February 2018
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All F50s are manual. If the car were to suddenly accelerate without you wanting it to you smash the clutch in and hit the brakes. It's not a magic car, it's just a powerful car. I've driven a car of similar power and a similar age/technology (500bhp Rally car) and it did very much as it was told. It only got scary when you mashed the throttle hard.

Which is what I think this guy did.


One minute the defendant says hes a qualified and experienced driver, used to driving super cars, the next he says some mechanical gremlin made the car launch massively and uncontrollable with massive acceleration whilst he is barely touching the gas peddle, and there's nothing he can do to stop it?