13yr old killed in F50

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Jockman

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160 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Digga said:
Soov535 said:
And how we all have a responsibility to wind it in when there's a child involved, in particular someone else's.
TBF, it's not just children; what if your passenger is a parent? It's one of the reasons why I've never been keen on having passengers at track days. Unless they're expendable crash-test dummies like me.
The Aston Martin Mob do a track event for Help the Heroes. Ex Services get a spin as a passenger. Tightly controlled and professionally run.

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Jockman said:
Soov535 said:
And how we all have a responsibility to wind it in when there's a child involved, in particular someone else's.
Oh, yes yes

And a possible murder? charge to follow.
Might be death by dangerous driving, not murder or manslaughter.


Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Soov535 said:
Might be death by dangerous driving, not murder or manslaughter.
Thanks.

Jockman

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160 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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anonymous said:
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Thanks, love.

You've probably also noted I'm not from north of the border wink

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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A safe and reasonable speed for proceeding down a private drive/farm track in someone else's F50 is probably what - 15mph at best?


Speeds needed to launch a car through seriously strong roadside obstacles like seen in the pictures must be far in excess of what is reasonable and safe I would guess.


Tragic incident. Will be interesting to see what the police charge the driver with, if he survives.

Alpinestars

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244 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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MOTK said:
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That's terrible all round. I can't even begin to think how the parents and the driver feel. I hope there isn't a witch hunt against the driver who out of the kindness of his heart gave the boy a ride, and now faces probably the most difficult thing in his life.

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Tragic and horrific.

Edited by marshalla on Wednesday 24th August 20:03

PurpleTurtle

6,977 posts

144 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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My condolences out to both families. When I was a nipper in the early 80's we had a bloke down the road who was an amateur rally driver with a Mk2 RS2000, lived next to my mate. We used to watch him spannering on it, then he'd take us for the odd spin on a Saturday, fully giving it the berries - we were a bunch of 10yo's in the back, no seatbelts, egging him on. There but for the grace of God and all that.

Soov535

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271 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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PurpleTurtle said:
My condolences out to both families. When I was a nipper in the early 80's we had a bloke down the road who was an amateur rally driver with a Mk2 RS2000, lived next to my mate. We used to watch him spannering on it, then he'd take us for the odd spin on a Saturday, fully giving it the berries - we were a bunch of 10yo's in the back, no seatbelts, egging him on. There but for the grace of God and all that.
Very much so. I recall being a ton up in Dad's Capri 3000GXL in 1975 ish, him with a fag on on the way back from the pub, me sat between the front seats egging him on.

Happy happy memories, and yet...... as you say there but for the grace of God go I..........

I have no doubt that the driver was well intentioned and good bloke doing a good turn and that he simply wanted to give the lad a thrill and a memory to last forever. I am not a crash investigtor but even common sense says that this car was travelling at high speed when it left the road, one minute after setting off (cold tyres etc?).

I take no pleasure at all, but this does seem to me to be a McRae all over again, leaving aside the possibility of mechanical failure. Too much desire for excitement and to do good meaning a momentary lapse meaning catastrophe. "Watch this".



Awful.





Edited by Soov535 on Wednesday 24th August 13:15

Digga

40,300 posts

283 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Soov535 said:
Very much so. I recall being a ton up in Dad's Capri 3000GXL, him with a fag on, me sat between the front seats egging him on.
As kids, we'd holiday on the East Yorks coast with family. Dad would, on quieter b-roads, allow me and my sister perch on the top fof the front seat backs, head, shoulders and arms out of the sunroof of the Mk1 Granada, like tank commanders. He'd be doing at least 40mph at the time.

Silver940

3,961 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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SilverSpur said:
A safe and reasonable speed for proceeding down a private drive/farm track in someone else's F50 is probably what - 15mph at best?


Speeds needed to launch a car through seriously strong roadside obstacles like seen in the pictures must be far in excess of what is reasonable and safe I would guess.


Tragic incident. Will be interesting to see what the police charge the driver with, if he survives.
Not really a farm track, concrete road

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2653914,-0.94900...

If you zoom in past the white van you can see the wooden bollards. It's a fair distance to get a pace on in an F50. I'd say most drive along there at 20-30mph. I cycle along there quite a bit

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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It was a proper road once, I think. On the other side of the dual carriageway (A287) is the remaining part of the same road (Hook Road) which has the same name. I drove along that part only last Friday on the way to the Fox and Goose.

IanA2

2,763 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The driver, Matt Cobden runs Toy Storage:

http://www.toystor-age.com/

Jarcy

1,559 posts

275 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The car was being kept ready for auction. Now withdrawn.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Poor little dude.

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Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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IanA2 said:
The driver, Matt Cobden runs Toy Storage:

http://www.toystor-age.com/
Quote from their website.


"Car maintenance specialists who care as much for your car as you do"

Bloody sad all round.

Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 24th August 16:00

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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IanA2 said:
The driver, Matt Cobden runs Toy Storage:

http://www.toystor-age.com/
It's been a fairly rubbish week for people looking for prestige car storage solutions in the SE.

Hope the driver makes a full recovery.

mwstewart

7,587 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Tragic accident (I presume just that - an accident). I hope the driver recovers.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

275 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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janesmith1950 said:
It's been a fairly rubbish week for people looking for prestige car storage solutions in the SE.
Has there been another incident?

Tragic loss.

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Jarcy said:
Has there been another incident?

Tragic loss.
Not an "Incident" like this.

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Silver940 said:
Not really a farm track, concrete road

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2653914,-0.94900...

If you zoom in past the white van you can see the wooden bollards. It's a fair distance to get a pace on in an F50. I'd say most drive along there at 20-30mph. I cycle along there quite a bit
Hmmm, concrete all the way? Concrete can be a bh when is dry and dusty. Very slippery and unforgiving.

Zooming out on the map, I notice the road forms a loop around a large field. Where were they going I wonder - a quick hot lap around the loop? The Paul Walker crash in the US occurred on a road that went around in a 'ring'.


yes if you were in someone else's Ferrari and you didn't have permission to give passenger laps I'd guess you'd carefully go around at 20mph. Unless you are trying to impress someone.