Politics in France
Discussion
Digga said:
hey're just 'stats'. They don't speak about specifics and the measures are extraordinarily blunt.
I've just had a meeting with one of the wealthiest of my mates from school. He's a bit younger than me, but already wealthy enough to retire on a very decent income. (He won't because his youngest child is six, so he and his wife can't just swan off around the world, so he might as well keep a few irons in the fire). He was a tearaway at school, not the least academic, more than a bit disruptive and never had any higher education. He's one of the sharpest guys I know.
One of the brightest guys I knew at school is a police officer - it was a vocation for him and so lumping him into the intelligence and education equals affluence is a nonsense.
Education does not equate to intelligence any more than a modest income equates to education.
Excellent comment.I've just had a meeting with one of the wealthiest of my mates from school. He's a bit younger than me, but already wealthy enough to retire on a very decent income. (He won't because his youngest child is six, so he and his wife can't just swan off around the world, so he might as well keep a few irons in the fire). He was a tearaway at school, not the least academic, more than a bit disruptive and never had any higher education. He's one of the sharpest guys I know.
One of the brightest guys I knew at school is a police officer - it was a vocation for him and so lumping him into the intelligence and education equals affluence is a nonsense.
Education does not equate to intelligence any more than a modest income equates to education.
From personal experience,I have three daughters,the two older got good Uni degrees both doing ok...ish.
My youngest wasn't "academic" but is very bright and personable.
Left school,always found a job,often mundane jobs for a couple of years and then two years after leaving school talked herself into a job with a large corporate that only usually employs Graduates with Masters.
Now two years later doing very well there.
avinalarf said:
Digga said:
hey're just 'stats'. They don't speak about specifics and the measures are extraordinarily blunt.
I've just had a meeting with one of the wealthiest of my mates from school. He's a bit younger than me, but already wealthy enough to retire on a very decent income. (He won't because his youngest child is six, so he and his wife can't just swan off around the world, so he might as well keep a few irons in the fire). He was a tearaway at school, not the least academic, more than a bit disruptive and never had any higher education. He's one of the sharpest guys I know.
One of the brightest guys I knew at school is a police officer - it was a vocation for him and so lumping him into the intelligence and education equals affluence is a nonsense.
Education does not equate to intelligence any more than a modest income equates to education.
Excellent comment.I've just had a meeting with one of the wealthiest of my mates from school. He's a bit younger than me, but already wealthy enough to retire on a very decent income. (He won't because his youngest child is six, so he and his wife can't just swan off around the world, so he might as well keep a few irons in the fire). He was a tearaway at school, not the least academic, more than a bit disruptive and never had any higher education. He's one of the sharpest guys I know.
One of the brightest guys I knew at school is a police officer - it was a vocation for him and so lumping him into the intelligence and education equals affluence is a nonsense.
Education does not equate to intelligence any more than a modest income equates to education.
From personal experience,I have three daughters,the two older got good Uni degrees both doing ok...ish.
My youngest wasn't "academic" but is very bright and personable.
Left school,always found a job,often mundane jobs for a couple of years and then two years after leaving school talked herself into a job with a large corporate that only usually employs Graduates with Masters.
Now two years later doing very well there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39802776
"French election: Macron and Le Pen both claim debate success"
"French election: Macron and Le Pen both claim debate success"
Macron hasn't come under any serious scrutiny until the first round results.
They are now relying on the "anyone but Le Pen" vote, because Macron is looking pretty crap if he were to be up against anyone else, now he is being scrutinised. He is certainly not coming across at all well outside of the cities.
This vote is going to be a lot closer than that poll suggests.
They are now relying on the "anyone but Le Pen" vote, because Macron is looking pretty crap if he were to be up against anyone else, now he is being scrutinised. He is certainly not coming across at all well outside of the cities.
This vote is going to be a lot closer than that poll suggests.
BlackLabel said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39802776
"French election: Macron and Le Pen both claim debate success"
Thats closer then Macron would like. As a lot of voters won't admit they are voting for a party labelled as racist."French election: Macron and Le Pen both claim debate success"
Countdown said:
jjlynn27 said:
Found this. From what's written Macron policies make a lot more sense, to me.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39705744
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39705744
Cutting taxes, increasing investment expenditure, reducing the budget deficit.....sounds fairly sensible.
He's going to cut the number of civil servants, and drop Corp Tax and strictures. They were the areas of cuts or sensible change to up the income imo.
The rest was all expenditure, and little of it true "investment".
Yes, he noted 60bn of costs to be cut etc... But where from?
And if "making all trade partners conform to all Single Market rules" includes freedom of movement... Best of luck with that. It won't be desirable for the EU for 70% of the world nor for the trading partner for the other 5%.
I agree that Le Pen's don't look that great either. But that doesn't make Macron's good. As Finance Minister France has hardly shone. So either he wasn't strong enough to cover that his way, or he wasn't very good at it.
Puggit said:
There's no 'if' in terms of the EU listening. What reaction has the Brexit vote or A50 instigated? The only reaction I have seen is the standard 'more Europe is the answer'.
Very reminiscent of the reaction from Labour when they lost the last election: "we weren't left wing enough".Maybe Le Pen has a chance after all
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/04/bara...
"Obama backs Macron in last minute election intervention"
All she needs now is to pay Juncker and Tony Blair to speak up for him and that 18% lead he has will be gone overnight, let alone before Monday.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/04/bara...
"Obama backs Macron in last minute election intervention"
All she needs now is to pay Juncker and Tony Blair to speak up for him and that 18% lead he has will be gone overnight, let alone before Monday.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-03/documents...
Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
Tony427 said:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-03/documents...
Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
Perhaps he means it wasn't hidden from him.......Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
Tony427 said:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-03/documents...
Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
Those bloody russians are at it again!Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
amusingduck said:
Tony427 said:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-03/documents...
Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
Those bloody russians are at it again!Well I never.
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
True or False?
Cheers,
Tony
Murph7355 said:
Maybe Le Pen has a chance after all
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/04/bara...
"Obama backs Macron in last minute election intervention"
All she needs now is to pay Juncker and Tony Blair to speak up for him and that 18% lead he has will be gone overnight, let alone before Monday.
Indeedhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/04/bara...
"Obama backs Macron in last minute election intervention"
All she needs now is to pay Juncker and Tony Blair to speak up for him and that 18% lead he has will be gone overnight, let alone before Monday.
It worked so well for old "back of the the queue"
Of course if this was Putin saying Macron was his choice the you-know-whos at the Guardian would be up in arms...
Tony427 said:
Macron was accused of operating a hidden bank account last night and he is now sueing Marine for profferring fake news.
And then we have this above.
And then we have this above.
http://gotnews.com/emmanuel-macrons-tax-evasion-do...
Could be huge for MLP if it pans out the way it looks
Edited by amusingduck on Friday 5th May 08:05
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