Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

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pingu393

7,797 posts

205 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Anyone who says "and the British did this" cannot represent this country.

He has the right to be ashamed/abhorred/whatever about the actions of our troops or government, but it is, and always should be "we did this".

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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W124 said:
All valid points. Thing is, from the perspective of the country as a whole, the voting population, the fact that he voted against intervention in the middle East does put him in a position of strength.
Really? I think people are now beyond the rose tinted glasses view that peace in the middle east = peace & security at home.

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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irocfan said:
given what's happening/happened in Germany and Sweden one might argue that not being involved in ME hasn't really made a jot of difference...
Point well made.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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W124 said:
wsurfa said:
turbobloke said:
W124 said:
I'm not a Corbyn admirer and have never voted for his party but his voting record on military intervention (particularly recent interventions which have had unintended but entirely predictable consequences in terms of Islamic terrorism in the West) does rather make him a trickier target than it may first appear.
Then again, his own words put him firmly in the bullseye.
Very true, perhaps he could repeat what his lovely little magazine said (via an editorial) to Norman Tebbit in the weeks following the Brighton bombing that paralysed his wife.
All valid points. Thing is, from the perspective of the country as a whole, the voting population, the fact that he voted against intervention in the middle East does put him in a position of strength.
a coin toss, that one. He will always vote against. Just lucky that history shows the war to be suspect. Doesn't vindicate him.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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technodup said:
e votes and is against war anywhere, any time. That's kind of the problem, he's a pacifist. He wouldn't engage our forces. He wouldn't use our nuclear weapons. Regardless of the situation or consequences.

He's been asked about it many times and is always slimy and evasive with his answers. And particularly with regard to the IRA. Last week he refused to condemn them, but instead made an equivocation about all acts of terror and the killing of innocent civilians. He pointedly omitted to condemn the killings of our innocent forces and police.

Brillo could absolutely skewer him on it if he wants. And I hope he does, especially given this week's events. Hopefully we see angry, out of control Corby. And the people see him for what he is.

It's the first role of government to defend us. Why the fk would anyone want him in charge?
His lack of condemnation of the IRA and their actions is telling. The loony mag he was on the board of said in an article after one of the IRA's bombings 'If she wants violence, then violence she will certainly get.'

His Chancellor was happy to praise the 'bombs & bullets' of the IRA.

He is clearly not a p

turbobloke

103,946 posts

260 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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wsurfa said:
technodup said:
e votes and is against war anywhere, any time. That's kind of the problem, he's a pacifist. He wouldn't engage our forces. He wouldn't use our nuclear weapons. Regardless of the situation or consequences.

He's been asked about it many times and is always slimy and evasive with his answers. And particularly with regard to the IRA. Last week he refused to condemn them, but instead made an equivocation about all acts of terror and the killing of innocent civilians. He pointedly omitted to condemn the killings of our innocent forces and police.

Brillo could absolutely skewer him on it if he wants. And I hope he does, especially given this week's events. Hopefully we see angry, out of control Corby. And the people see him for what he is.

It's the first role of government to defend us. Why the fk would anyone want him in charge?
His lack of condemnation of the IRA and their actions is telling. The loony mag he was on the board of said in an article after one of the IRA's bombings 'If she wants violence, then violence she will certainly get.'

His Chancellor was happy to praise the 'bombs & bullets' of the IRA.

He is clearly not a p
A bit of a b maybe? Possibly some f. No need to c anything else wink

Bullett

10,886 posts

184 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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It's the whole 'man of principle' and 'different' to the rest thing that gets to me.

He only seems to have principles when it suits him. As I understand it he had a consistent record of being anti Eu yet pushed remain. He's anti war/pacifist except when it's against the west. The rich (over 80k) must be taxed to death but he's not rich and earns 140k. The train thing.



Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Bullett said:
It's the whole 'man of principle' and 'different' to the rest thing that gets to me.

He only seems to have principles when it suits him. As I understand it he had a consistent record of being anti Eu yet pushed remain. He's anti war/pacifist except when it's against the west. The rich (over 80k) must be taxed to death but he's not rich and earns 140k. The train thing.
Precisely. It is clear to me that we aint seen nothing yet if he got his hands on power. Look at his team. Diane Abbott wouldn't know what the truth was.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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From the BBC news web site:

"It's understood the Labour leader told the prime minister this afternoon that he intended to resume campaigning on Friday.

Jeremy Corbyn is said to have dicussed the issue with Theresa May just after one o'clock today.

He apparently told Mrs May that any further delay "risked undermining the democratic process".

Mr Corbyn is expected to make a campaign speech on Friday, but it is likely to be more restrained and not "full-on attack".


Forget about terrorist threats and what happened in Manchester...what a guy!


pingu393

7,797 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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wormus said:
From the BBC news web site:

"It's understood the Labour leader told the prime minister this afternoon that he intended to resume campaigning on Friday.

Jeremy Corbyn is said to have dicussed the issue with Theresa May just after one o'clock today.

He apparently told Mrs May that any further delay "risked undermining the democratic process".

Mr Corbyn is expected to make a campaign speech on Friday, but it is likely to be more restrained and not "full-on attack".


Forget about terrorist threats and what happened in Manchester...what a guy!
In fairness to all, I think that waiting until next Tuesday is too long. Friday morning would be four nights and three days since the attack.

Tony427

2,873 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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When is / was Brillo going to interview him or is it still taking place ?

If the chat has been sidelined I do hope that it is rearranged for a later date.

Cheers,

Tony


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Tony427 said:
When is / was Brillo going to interview him or is it still taking place ?

If the chat has been sidelined I do hope that it is rearranged for a later date.

Cheers,

Tony
The original timetable had him on as the last of the major party leaders. It's probably slipped a few days.

irocfan

40,433 posts

190 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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ok then - who called it? It's the West's fault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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irocfan said:
ok then - who called it? It's the West's fault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427
Proving what a knob he rally is and giving good reasons why people should not vote Labour.

Oakey

27,566 posts

216 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Likes Fast Cars said:
irocfan said:
ok then - who called it? It's the West's fault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427
Proving what a knob he rally is and giving good reasons why people should not vote Labour.
You try telling Labour supporters that it was Labour that took us into those wars, they'll tell you that wasn't the 'real' Labour party as they were too centrist. A hard left, Marxist Labour will turn the UK into a land of rainbows and unicorns.

Also, didn't Trump campaign on this exact same sort of promise (no more intervention) and get absolutely ripped into?

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Oakey said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
irocfan said:
ok then - who called it? It's the West's fault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427
Proving what a knob he rally is and giving good reasons why people should not vote Labour.
You try telling Labour supporters that it was Labour that took us into those wars, they'll tell you that wasn't the 'real' Labour party as they were too centrist. A hard left, Marxist Labour will turn the UK into a land of rainbows and unicorns.
I had this sort of thing from a guy 2 day ago, I've dealt with him for months & months, nice bloke, but in a conversation the topic came up as to why things might be a little slow right now. I suggested election uncertainty so businesses are waiting to see the results, and 1 or 2 other reasons.

He said this country has never been worse off than it is now, Conservatives have borrowed too much and Labour had the economy running well, etc., etc.

Unbelievable. I didn't even bother commenting, only to say "good for you, let's see what happens on 8 June".

Rainbows and unicorns.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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irocfan said:
ok then - who called it? It's the West's fault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427
what a dick!

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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That pillock is on BBV TVB right now...... painting the sad picture of Manchester - now he's warming up to his big leftist idealism.

He's speaking about solidarity and human warmth as if he's the only one - he just doesn't get the fact that the terrorists don't share the same thoughts!

Idiot.

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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More negative 'we won't cut services" "the current approach isn't working" .... "prison reform" .... (this worries the st out of me, next he'll be letting out the bad guys).

And he didn't have the balls to take questions after his speech.

Truly a perpetual opposition leader if ever there was one.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Oakey said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
irocfan said:
ok then - who called it? It's the West's fault

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40053427
Proving what a knob he rally is and giving good reasons why people should not vote Labour.
You try telling Labour supporters that it was Labour that took us into those wars, they'll tell you that wasn't the 'real' Labour party as they were too centrist. A hard left, Marxist Labour will turn the UK into a land of rainbows and unicorns.

Also, didn't Trump campaign on this exact same sort of promise (no more intervention) and get absolutely ripped into?
I did. I got a typical response...it wasn't Corbyn. It was the tw*t Blair.
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