Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2
Discussion
gooner1 said:
I wondered that too when I heard him this evening. Jesus! Are there any competents in any party at the moment?NoddyonNitrous said:
I wondered that too when I heard him this evening. Jesus! Are there any competents in any party at the moment?
I don't doubt there are but they would appear to have their particular parties interestIn mind, rather than what's best for the UK and it's people.
+ I think we ourselves, are getting more and more selfish and insular , degree by degree.
Goaty Bill 2 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
mercGLowner said:
Whilst the Tories need to adapt and modify their economic policies, they should be forensically dismantling every facet of the fantasy economics of the Labour Party's policies - why aren't they doing it???
I think the Tories figured that with Labour moving further to the left than ever, it was sensible for them to move a bit left and mop up some labour moderates. After all, believers in free markets would still vote Conservative because there was nowhere else to go. This is where we got 'government is a force for good' came from.In hindsight what was required was a robust defence of free market economics. It's noticeable that a lot of Labour support came not just from under 25s but especially under 35s. The people too young to remember the eastern European communist bloc and how much it's inhabitants wanted to escape. Free market capitalism needs to be defended all over again, and TMs interventionist instincts don't help. ''Government is a force for good' indeed!
I can assure you good doctor that my children, both well under the age of 35 but old enough to vote, are well enough educated to know to be standing on my side of the barricades 'come the revolution'.
Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbot are all too old to be around in another five years as political threats. Another blissful thought for the day.
You don't need to love Tories in order to hate Marxists.
And I think you and others are absolutely on the mark; the moderate left will turn away in their droves after these few weeks.
gazza285 said:
mercGLowner said:
Sorry but Theresa needs her P45 by the Autumn and we need a charismatic, strong leader who can outsmart the Trots (Don't ask me who!)and take JC to task at every opportunity.
I'd have liked to see Hague have another crack at it, a shame he has retired as an MP...As to the replacement I can't see any of the front bench as a realistic prospect as it needs someone who can take it to JC without coming across as an attack dog. The only one I've heard and seen recently who struck me as capable is Graham Brady - chairman of the 1922 committee but not much of a public profile. Anyone else?
undred orse said:
gazza285 said:
mercGLowner said:
Sorry but Theresa needs her P45 by the Autumn and we need a charismatic, strong leader who can outsmart the Trots (Don't ask me who!)and take JC to task at every opportunity.
I'd have liked to see Hague have another crack at it, a shame he has retired as an MP...As to the replacement I can't see any of the front bench as a realistic prospect as it needs someone who can take it to JC without coming across as an attack dog. The only one I've heard and seen recently who struck me as capable is Graham Brady - chairman of the 1922 committee but not much of a public profile. Anyone else?
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesB'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesB'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesI will leave you thinking on that one....
deadslow said:
B'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesBurwood said:
deadslow said:
B'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesStickyfinger said:
B'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesI will leave you thinking on that one....
Diane Abbott is an incompetent, selfish, self-serving (and racist) politician
QED
deadslow said:
B'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices1. Don't vote #notmyfault
2. Spoil ballot paper #protestvote
PR is what I'd like to see - every vote has a real value
B'stard Child said:
Err what's the alternative in an environment that polarises into a binary choice with two party politics?
1. Don't vote #notmyfault
2. Spoil ballot paper #protestvote
PR is what I'd like to see - every vote has a real value
Or....PR, every vote devalued by turning politics into a grey smoothie1. Don't vote #notmyfault
2. Spoil ballot paper #protestvote
PR is what I'd like to see - every vote has a real value
deadslow said:
Burwood said:
deadslow said:
B'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesdeadslow said:
Burwood said:
deadslow said:
B'stard Child said:
Stickyfinger said:
deadslow said:
None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.
Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choicesNI isn't going anywhere either.
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