Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

[NoddyonNitrous]

gooner1 said:

Is Diabetes contagious?

https://soundcloud.com/spectator1828/boris-johnson...

I wondered that too when I heard him this evening. Jesus! Are there any competents in any party at the moment?

[gooner1]

NoddyonNitrous said:

I wondered that too when I heard him this evening. Jesus! Are there any competents in any party at the moment?

I don't doubt there are but they would appear to have their particular parties interest
In mind, rather than what's best for the UK and it's people.
+ I think we ourselves, are getting more and more selfish and insular , degree by degree.

[gazza285]

mercGLowner said:

Sorry but Theresa needs her P45 by the Autumn and we need a charismatic, strong leader who can outsmart the Trots (Don't ask me who!)and take JC to task at every opportunity.

I'd have liked to see Hague have another crack at it, a shame he has retired as an MP...

[Burwood]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

Dr Jekyll said:

mercGLowner said:

Whilst the Tories need to adapt and modify their economic policies, they should be forensically dismantling every facet of the fantasy economics of the Labour Party's policies - why aren't they doing it???

I think the Tories figured that with Labour moving further to the left than ever, it was sensible for them to move a bit left and mop up some labour moderates. After all, believers in free markets would still vote Conservative because there was nowhere else to go. This is where we got 'government is a force for good' came from.

In hindsight what was required was a robust defence of free market economics. It's noticeable that a lot of Labour support came not just from under 25s but especially under 35s. The people too young to remember the eastern European communist bloc and how much it's inhabitants wanted to escape. Free market capitalism needs to be defended all over again, and TMs interventionist instincts don't help. ''Government is a force for good' indeed!

Corbyn is committing assisted political suicide with the help of McDonnell. It is a beautiful thing to see. We should embrace it.

I can assure you good doctor that my children, both well under the age of 35 but old enough to vote, are well enough educated to know to be standing on my side of the barricades 'come the revolution'.

Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbot are all too old to be around in another five years as political threats. Another blissful thought for the day.

You don't need to love Tories in order to hate Marxists.
And I think you and others are absolutely on the mark; the moderate left will turn away in their droves after these few weeks.

With you all day long on these point billy

[Jockman]

lbc said:

mitzy said:

See he is doing Glastonbury

Only to corrupt the young to vote Labour.

Is he paying for their tickets?

[rolando]

Jockman said:

Is he paying for their tickets?

Yes, with cash from the money tree, fertilised with unicorn manure.

[Stickyfinger]

rolando said:

Yes, with cash from the money tree, fertilised with unicorn manure.

I would think those "thieves from the people" rich bd performers on stage (like Billy Bragg) would be paying with their higher taxes.

[undred orse]

gazza285 said:

mercGLowner said:

Sorry but Theresa needs her P45 by the Autumn and we need a charismatic, strong leader who can outsmart the Trots (Don't ask me who!)and take JC to task at every opportunity.

I'd have liked to see Hague have another crack at it, a shame he has retired as an MP...

I agree that she should go - completely blew the election and has been equally terrible since. I just cannot see a way back for TM now and I'm worried by the traction that JC and his gang are getting and the overwhelming presence they seem to have on toxic social media.

As to the replacement I can't see any of the front bench as a realistic prospect as it needs someone who can take it to JC without coming across as an attack dog. The only one I've heard and seen recently who struck me as capable is Graham Brady - chairman of the 1922 committee but not much of a public profile. Anyone else?

[deadslow]

undred orse said:

gazza285 said:

mercGLowner said:

Sorry but Theresa needs her P45 by the Autumn and we need a charismatic, strong leader who can outsmart the Trots (Don't ask me who!)and take JC to task at every opportunity.

I'd have liked to see Hague have another crack at it, a shame he has retired as an MP...

I agree that she should go - completely blew the election and has been equally terrible since. I just cannot see a way back for TM now and I'm worried by the traction that JC and his gang are getting and the overwhelming presence they seem to have on toxic social media.

As to the replacement I can't see any of the front bench as a realistic prospect as it needs someone who can take it to JC without coming across as an attack dog. The only one I've heard and seen recently who struck me as capable is Graham Brady - chairman of the 1922 committee but not much of a public profile. Anyone else?

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

[Stickyfinger]

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

[B'stard Child]

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

[deadslow]

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

why, then, would you support either? Tribalism?

[Stickyfinger]

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

Diane Abbott

I will leave you thinking on that one....

[Burwood]

deadslow said:

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

why, then, would you support either? Tribalism?

Because one would at least keep the economy stable. Including financial markets and property markets. The other would out us into a depression

[deadslow]

Burwood said:

deadslow said:

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

why, then, would you support either? Tribalism?

Because one would at least keep the economy stable. Including financial markets and property markets. The other would out us into a depression

I should say the Tories have de-stabilised the UK massively by pursuing short term, party goals, and could yet preside over the break up of the UK into just Eng & Wales.

[B'stard Child]

Stickyfinger said:

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

Diane Abbott

I will leave you thinking on that one....

You don't need to leave me thinking - you took my quote out of context

Diane Abbott is an incompetent, selfish, self-serving (and racist) politician

QED

[B'stard Child]

deadslow said:

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

why, then, would you support either? Tribalism?

Err what's the alternative in an environment that polarises into a binary choice with two party politics?

1. Don't vote #notmyfault
2. Spoil ballot paper #protestvote

PR is what I'd like to see - every vote has a real value

[Stickyfinger]

B'stard Child said:

Err what's the alternative in an environment that polarises into a binary choice with two party politics?

1. Don't vote #notmyfault
2. Spoil ballot paper #protestvote

PR is what I'd like to see - every vote has a real value

Or....PR, every vote devalued by turning politics into a grey smoothie

[Burwood]

deadslow said:

Burwood said:

deadslow said:

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

why, then, would you support either? Tribalism?

Because one would at least keep the economy stable. Including financial markets and property markets. The other would out us into a depression

I should say the Tories have de-stabilised the UK massively by pursuing short term, party goals, and could yet preside over the break up of the UK into just Eng & Wales.

The majority in Scotland don't want another referendum. And you're fence sitting. The current turmoil has been caused by a whole raft of factors, many of which are not Tory related. It's a simple enough decision. The goon squad or the incumbents.

[anonymous-user]

deadslow said:

Burwood said:

deadslow said:

B'stard Child said:

Stickyfinger said:

deadslow said:

None of the present Tory politicians will touch it - nothing in it for them. The most incompetent, selfish, self-serving bunch of politicians in living memory.

Yet I would have ANY of them over anything the Labour party can put forward.......choices choices

I would have said swap "Tory" for "Labour" and the statement still reads true

why, then, would you support either? Tribalism?

Because one would at least keep the economy stable. Including financial markets and property markets. The other would out us into a depression

I should say the Tories have de-stabilised the UK massively by pursuing short term, party goals, and could yet preside over the break up of the UK into just Eng & Wales.

Pay attention, peak SNP has passed, its probably the least likely scenario in my lifetime now the SNP has been found out. The Scottish people want to stay in the union, they know they would have to wind up their huge deficit if they went it alone which would devastate the place.

NI isn't going anywhere either.