Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

[anonymous-user]

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Stickyfinger said:

In case you missed it, Jeremy Corbyn is the country's favourite to lead the country. The Tories are finished. laugh

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...
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How is that ANY more accurate or certain than the figures for Mrs May 1 year ago ?

Mrs May would have achieved what the polls were telling her had she not completely ballsed the whole thing up with an appalling campaign. It was so bad it was as if she wanted to lose.

Jezza is smarter than that. Barring a disaster, Labour will win the next election whenever that happens to be.

May wont be in post for the next election, depending on how the next two years go will determine who will replace her.

They wont make the same mistake again giving Labour under Corbyn a free ride on policy scrutiny, I would also expect the thought of Corbyn getting so close to power would have put the willies up the floating voter who has a brain.

Despite the worst election campaign in living memory, Labour still lost by nearly 60 seats.

Momentum lost, Marxism lost, free money for all and sod the consequences lost. The fact momentum cant accept they lost tells you all you need to know about how valued democracy is amongst that bunch.

[Donkey Of The Damned]

alfie2244 said:

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Stickyfinger said:

In case you missed it, Jeremy Corbyn is the country's favourite to lead the country. The Tories are finished. laugh

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-cor...
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How is that ANY more accurate or certain than the figures for Mrs May 1 year ago ?

Mrs May would have achieved what the polls were telling her had she not completely ballsed the whole thing up with an appalling campaign. It was so bad it was as if she wanted to lose.

Jezza is smarter than that. Barring a disaster, Labour will win the next election whenever that happens to be.

Different name same st eh eeyore.

Nayyyy.

[pingu393]

Donkey Of The Damned said:

If you're legally allowed to work, then you should be given exactly the same rights as anyone else in the workforce.

I don't disagree with the sentiment, but the reality is a 25yo with experience of either 9 years of further education or 9 years of work is a better bet than a 16yo with no experience of either.

A 16yo is a better bet than a 25yo with 9 years of no work and no further education, but that choice doesn't have to be made until we are at 10%+ unemployment.

The consequence is that the 16yo without a job becomes a 17yo without a job. It doesn't take long before watching Jeremy Kyle is easier to do than fruitlessly knocking on doors. Before you know it, the 16yo has become the 25yo of the second paragraph.

[technodup]

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Jezza is smarter than that.

Jezza's biggest problem is he's actually not very smart at all.

[Yipper]

technodup said:

Donkey Of The Damned said:

Jezza is smarter than that.

Jezza's biggest problem is he's actually not very smart at all.

He is not clever; he pretty much failed his A-Levels and failed uni. But he is street-smart. Despite holding extreme-Left views and being basically a crypto-communist from the previous century, he has still managed to squirm his way to the top of the Labour party and to get within a tiny 2k votes of the highest office in the land. And he may yet make it to PM before the year is out. The Tories have a bad habit of self-destructing under pressure and they may oust May and trigger election 2.0. If an election were held today, Labour would win by a landslide.

[anonymous-user]

Burwood said:

Moonhawk said:

NorfolkInClue1 said:

However, I do have a big problem with companies that carry out things like medical research in order to provide life changing medicines only to massively inflate the price as they know the reliance people will have on them.

Do you know how expensive (and financially risky) it is to develop a new drug.......and what do you class as "massively inflating the price".

If you don't like drug companies making 'massive profits' on new drugs - don't use them, it's that simple. There are plenty of existing drugs that are off patent and therefore relatively cheap. Arguably current life expectancy based on all of the cheap drugs currently on the market is pretty good too - you get about 10 years on average more than somebody in the 1960 and early 1970s - why isn't that good enough - people in the 1960s seemed pretty happy with their lot.

If people stop buying their new drugs at "massively inflated" prices because everyone is happy with the current stock of generic drugs and their current life expectancy, these nasty, evil pharma companies will stop making profit - the companies will go bust - problem solved.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 25th June 07:31

Norfolk, not an ad hom but you're clueless mate. Pfizer spend 10b on r&d. Pfizer has 170b assets employed and 60b net of loans. It earns a 15% return on those net assets. Hardly off the charts.

For the sake keeping this Corbyn thread on topic you are correct, no price fixing or exploitation in medicine, thanks for the figures. You did miss last years 84m fine from your figures but that's not relevant to my point I guess.

Pfizer as an example of trust and openness...........

[gooner1]

BIANCO said:

gooner1 said:

Lance Catamaran said:

Erm, what? The wall says not to build walls? Does he also know that the wall around the camp site is to stop people gaining illegal entry, the same thing that Trump's wall is proposing to do.

Well the wall at Glastonbury certainly seems to be working, haven't spotted a single Mexican yet,

Looking at the crowds its not just kept the Mexicans out but also all the blacks, Muslims and ever other minority.

You sound like you are celebrating your own statement..

[FN2TypeR]

BIANCO said:

gooner1 said:

Lance Catamaran said:

Erm, what? The wall says not to build walls? Does he also know that the wall around the camp site is to stop people gaining illegal entry, the same thing that Trump's wall is proposing to do.

Well the wall at Glastonbury certainly seems to be working, haven't spotted a single Mexican yet,

Looking at the crowds its not just kept the Mexicans out but also all the blacks, Muslims and ever other minority.

Can't you be white and Muslim?

[Oakey]

BIANCO said:

Looking at the crowds its not just kept the Mexicans out but also all the blacks, Muslims and ever other minority.

Michael Eavis, a multimillionaire landowner that discriminates against the poor by charging £250 for access to his land and builds a 12ft high fence to keep people out.

[Stickyfinger]

Oakey said:

Michael Eavis, a multimillionaire landowner that discriminates against the poor by charging £250 for access to his land and builds a 12ft high fence to keep people out.

Don't worry, history shows us the "Land Owners" and their families will be some of the first to go to the Gulags after the Soviets reorganise Pilton into the Somerset Collective.

[gooner1]

FN2TypeR said:

Can't you be white and Muslim?

Or Black Mexican, or any combination of what consists of the human race.

Our 3 year old Grandson, has Scottish, Irish, English, German, Jewish,African, American,
Bloodlines and we love the fact that he has such diversity.And that's only going back to his great grand parents.

[Stickyfinger]

gooner1 said:

Or Black Mexican, or any combination of what consists of the human race.

Our 3 year old Grandson, has Scottish, Irish, English, German, Jewish,African, American,
Bloodlines and we love the fact that he has such diversity.And that's only going back to his great grand parents.

Genetic drivel

[gooner1]

Stickyfinger said:

gooner1 said:

Or Black Mexican, or any combination of what consists of the human race.

Our 3 year old Grandson, has Scottish, Irish, English, German, Jewish,African, American,
Bloodlines and we love the fact that he has such diversity.And that's only going back to his great grand parents.

Genetic drivel

Come again,sticky?

[Stickyfinger]

gooner1 said:

Come again,sticky?

That is Genetic drivel, not clear ?

African is the only "blood" line you can be anywhere near sure of.

[gooner1]

Stickyfinger said:

gooner1 said:

Come again,sticky?

That is Genetic drivel, not clear ?

Humour me, again, and expand.

[Countdown]

gooner1 said:

Stickyfinger said:

gooner1 said:

Come again,sticky?

That is Genetic drivel, not clear ?

Humour me, again, and expand.

To be fair to Sticky if there's one thing he specialises in, it's drivel.

[gooner1]

Stickyfinger said:

That is Genetic drivel, not clear ?

African is the only "blood" line you can be anywhere near sure of.

Our family are sure enough, which is all that counts
But thanks for your most informative input, must dash, grandsons got hold of the bloody
assegai, again.

[Stickyfinger]

gooner1 said:

Our family are sure enough, which is all that counts
But thanks for your most informative input, must dash, grandsons got hold of the bloody
assegai, again.

Your comment on blood lines is genetic and cultural bks ...thus your proud claim that it gives you some level of "Oh look how diverse I am" credibility is also bks.

[alfie2244]

Stickyfinger said:

gooner1 said:

Our family are sure enough, which is all that counts
But thanks for your most informative input, must dash, grandsons got hold of the bloody
assegai, again.

Your comment on blood lines is genetic and cultural bks ...thus your proud claim that it gives you some level of "Oh look how diverse I am" credibility is also bks.

Are you talking about Lucy & Ardi?

[Countdown]

Stickyfinger said:

gooner1 said:

Our family are sure enough, which is all that counts
But thanks for your most informative input, must dash, grandsons got hold of the bloody
assegai, again.

Your comment on blood lines is genetic and cultural bks ...thus your proud claim that it gives you some level of "Oh look how diverse I am" credibility is also bks.

Not to me it wasn't.

AFAICS Gooner1 was stating that his family has a diverse background. Based on what he's written it clearly does. He's not mentioned either genetics or culture at all, you bought that into it.