Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

[Likes Fast Cars]

Old Merc said:

If I was Andrew Neil I would ask Corbyn to explain the difference between the terrorists who planned last nights bombing in Manchester and the IRA terrorists who bombed Manchester in 1996 and Birmingham in 1974.

Why don't you propose that to him as a question? He's easy enough to contact, mind you he may not want to ask but you could suggest it. Would be good if he did ask it.

[Justayellowbadge]

Old Merc said:

If I was Andrew Neil I would ask Corbyn to explain the difference between the terrorists who planned last nights bombing in Manchester and the IRA terrorists who bombed Manchester in 1996 and Birmingham in 1974.

If he isn't putting more effort than he ever has, ever, into a strategy to counter exactly these kind of questions then he will be judges as unfit to run a bath, let alone the country.

He's going to need the fk off mea culpa of all mea culpas and a stunning justification.

Won't realistically happen.

[Johnnytheboy]

Old Merc said:

If I was Andrew Neil I would ask Corbyn to explain the difference between the terrorists who planned last nights bombing in Manchester and the IRA terrorists who bombed Manchester in 1996 and Birmingham in 1974.

I'm reminded of the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Old Dubya started declaring war on all terrorism at press conferences, so Tony Blair had to follow suit.

Presumably because of where he stood on the NI peace process he took to saying "international" really quickly before terrorism, in that voice they use on adverts when rattling through some t&c's.

To make sure we knew he was not declaring war on domestic terrorism.

[W124]

I'm not a Corbyn admirer and have never voted for his party but his voting record on military intervention (particularly recent interventions which have had unintended but entirely predictable consequences in terms of Islamic terrorism in the West) does rather make him a trickier target than it may first appear.

[turbobloke]

W124 said:

I'm not a Corbyn admirer and have never voted for his party but his voting record on military intervention (particularly recent interventions which have had unintended but entirely predictable consequences in terms of Islamic terrorism in the West) does rather make him a trickier target than it may first appear.

Then again, his own words put him firmly in the bullseye.

[anonymous-user]

turbobloke said:

W124 said:

I'm not a Corbyn admirer and have never voted for his party but his voting record on military intervention (particularly recent interventions which have had unintended but entirely predictable consequences in terms of Islamic terrorism in the West) does rather make him a trickier target than it may first appear.

Then again, his own words put him firmly in the bullseye.

Very true, perhaps he could repeat what his lovely little magazine said (via an editorial) to Norman Tebbit in the weeks following the Brighton bombing that paralysed his wife.

[W124]

wsurfa said:

turbobloke said:

W124 said:

I'm not a Corbyn admirer and have never voted for his party but his voting record on military intervention (particularly recent interventions which have had unintended but entirely predictable consequences in terms of Islamic terrorism in the West) does rather make him a trickier target than it may first appear.

Then again, his own words put him firmly in the bullseye.

Very true, perhaps he could repeat what his lovely little magazine said (via an editorial) to Norman Tebbit in the weeks following the Brighton bombing that paralysed his wife.

All valid points. Thing is, from the perspective of the country as a whole, the voting population, the fact that he voted against intervention in the middle East does put him in a position of strength.

[hantsxlg]

Does it? Quite a generalisation.

[W124]

Lot's of generalisations on here. As I say - I'm not a fan of Corbyn. I do feel though, that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland.

[PurpleAki]

Quick to defend terrorist atrocities but reluctant to defend his own country and others suffering
oppression ?

[alfie2244]

W124 said:

Lot's of generalisations on here. As I say - I'm not a fan of Corbyn. I do feel though, that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland.

He's a terrorist sympathiser and appeaser.......hope that's not too much of a generalisation for you.

[Stickyfinger]

Who has "Friends" like the gay throwing mob @ Hamas

[W124]

alfie2244 said:

W124 said:

Lot's of generalisations on here. As I say - I'm not a fan of Corbyn. I do feel though, that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland.

He's a terrorist sympathiser and appeaser.......hope that's not too much of a generalisation for you.

Why not read what I've written and respond to that? I can't stand the bloke.

[alfie2244]

W124 said:

alfie2244 said:

W124 said:

Lot's of generalisations on here. As I say - I'm not a fan of Corbyn. I do feel though, that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland.

He's a terrorist sympathiser and appeaser.......hope that's not too much of a generalisation for you.

Why not read what I've written and respond to that? I can't stand the bloke.

If you feel that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - think his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland then I would say:

a) what makes you feel this, what evidence do you have to support this or is it your gut feeling?

b) This large section of the populace are wrong and need to join PH and get themselves edumacated like wot i am.

[technodup]

W124 said:

Lot's of generalisations on here. As I say - I'm not a fan of Corbyn. I do feel though, that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland.

He votes and is against war anywhere, any time. That's kind of the problem, he's a pacifist. He wouldn't engage our forces. He wouldn't use our nuclear weapons. Regardless of the situation or consequences.

He's been asked about it many times and is always slimy and evasive with his answers. And particularly with regard to the IRA. Last week he refused to condemn them, but instead made an equivocation about all acts of terror and the killing of innocent civilians. He pointedly omitted to condemn the killings of our innocent forces and police.

Brillo could absolutely skewer him on it if he wants. And I hope he does, especially given this week's events. Hopefully we see angry, out of control Corby. And the people see him for what he is.

It's the first role of government to defend us. Why the fk would anyone want him in charge?

[W124]

alfie2244 said:

W124 said:

alfie2244 said:

W124 said:

Lot's of generalisations on here. As I say - I'm not a fan of Corbyn. I do feel though, that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland.

He's a terrorist sympathiser and appeaser.......hope that's not too much of a generalisation for you.

Why not read what I've written and respond to that? I can't stand the bloke.

If you feel that for a large section of the populace - the sort massively absent from PH - think his consistent voting against military intervention in the middle East is more relevant than his attitude to terrorists in Northern Ireland then I would say:

a) what makes you feel this, what evidence do you have to support this or is it your gut feeling?

b) This large section of the populace are wrong and need to join PH and get themselves edumacated like wot i am.

Gut feeling. I have absolutely no data or evidence of any kind whatsoever. Rarely do. He was in the right though, on Iraq certainly. On Afghanistan, Libya, Siyria etc. Even a stopped clock and all that. My argument, st as it is I concede, is that one might very well argue that our interventions in the Middle East have put us in harms way in respect to international Islamic terrorism and that, in this regard it becomes harder to attack Corbyn on the issue of terrorism as he has, as a matter of record, consistently voted against our insane excursions in the Middle East. I would have expected a lot more vitriol from the right-wing press against him for his idiotic position with respect to the IRA.

[DanL]

He's been very anti-war with stop the war (unsurprisingly!), but he's only been anti-Western war... Very quiet condemning similar Russian moves, from what I recall.

[alfie2244]

W124 said:

Gut feeling. I have absolutely no data or evidence of any kind whatsoever. Rarely do. He was in the right though, on Iraq certainly. On Afghanistan, Libya, Siyria etc. Even a stopped clock and all that. My argument, st as it is I concede, is that one might very well argue that our interventions in the Middle East have put us in harms way in respect to international Islamic terrorism and that, in this regard it becomes harder to attack Corbyn on the issue of terrorism as he has, as a matter of record, consistently voted against our insane excursions in the Middle East. I would have expected a lot more vitriol from the right-wing press against him for his idiotic position with respect to the IRA.

Thanks...not sure any further comments would get us anywhere to be honest but would like to say I think the vitriol RE his IRA sympathies etc is being held on the backburner until it can do the most damage........that's my gut feeling also

[BlueHave]

DanL said:

He's been very anti-war with stop the war (unsurprisingly!), but he's only been anti-Western war... Very quiet condemning similar Russian moves, from what I recall.

If he resigns as Labour leader then I reckon theres a file with his name on it that will be 'leaked' to the media covering all his dealings with scumbag terrorists and CND days.

[irocfan]

W124 said:

Gut feeling. I have absolutely no data or evidence of any kind whatsoever. Rarely do. He was in the right though, on Iraq certainly. On Afghanistan, Libya, Siyria etc. Even a stopped clock and all that. My argument, st as it is I concede, is that one might very well argue that our interventions in the Middle East have put us in harms way in respect to international Islamic terrorism and that, in this regard it becomes harder to attack Corbyn on the issue of terrorism as he has, as a matter of record, consistently voted against our insane excursions in the Middle East. I would have expected a lot more vitriol from the right-wing press against him for his idiotic position with respect to the IRA.

given what's happening/happened in Germany and Sweden one might argue that not being involved in ME hasn't really made a jot of difference...