Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2

[dimots]

williamp said:

...most normal thinking people.

Please define 'normal' beyond 'not bloody socialists'. It would really help me to understand your point. Thanks.

[FN2TypeR]

wl606 said:

Now he's giving away free beer, is there no end to his populist policies...

The totty in the white t shirt is worth a lech though,

[FN2TypeR]

wormus said:

Puggit said:

It's "You're". If the person who'd written that had gone to decent grammar school, they'd know that.

[Rich_W]

Lance Catamaran said:

Preaching to the converted

This.

The way to win elections (from the position of opposition) is to get people who wouldn't vote for you, to vote for you. It's why Blair won! "Mondeo man" etc

[Mojooo]

Rich_W said:

This.

The way to win elections (from the position of opposition) is to get people who wouldn't vote for you, to vote for you. It's why Blair won! "Mondeo man" etc

But even in Glastonbury there will be people who didn't vote who may vote next time who will be influenced by it.

[K-Cee]

egomeister said:

wl606 said:

williamp said:

Still, somehow Comrade Corbyn is seen as "cool", Why is beyond most normal thinking people. But remember at one time, being a grown up liking Rolf Harris was seen as cool. Or liking the Lostprophets, or...

Do you think Jeremy Cobyn is a paedophile?

Almost. If he gets to implement his economic policy he'll fk the kids for a generation...

Trouble is "the kid's" are being led like lambs to the slaughter, they don't see any further than the mobile glued to their hand ! "gullible" does'nt even cover it, that's what Corbyn is leaching to.

[Cobnapint]

Rich_W said:

Lance Catamaran said:

Preaching to the converted

This.

The way to win elections (from the position of opposition) is to get people who wouldn't vote for you, to vote for you. It's why Blair won! "Mondeo man" etc

It does appear to be the way, appear on every news item greeting cheering crowds and making yourself look really popular.

TM on the other hand, seen door knocking in Scotland where nobody answered the door, and not showing up for a leaders debate.

[longtimeracer]

What he is doing is tapping into the fact that young people are wakening up to politics at last; old fart; redneck and blow you jack I'm alright politics are going to be challenged, has to be good for democracy surely?

[longtimeracer]

What he is doing is tapping into the fact that young people are wakening up to politics at last; old fart; redneck and blow you jack I'm alright politics are going to be challenged, has to be good for democracy surely?

[sidicks]

longtimeracer said:

What he is doing is tapping into the fact that young people are wakening up to politics at last; old fart; redneck and blow you jack I'm alright politics are going to be challenged, has to be good for democracy surely?

So his policies, which include involved increased public sector costs and increased state pensions, to be paid for by the 'young', will benefit 'young people' how exactly?

[Goaty Bill 2]

dimots said:

williamp said:

...most normal thinking people.

Please define 'normal' beyond 'not bloody socialists'. It would really help me to understand your point. Thanks.

Britain would certainly be defined as a 'socialist state' by US standards, and by most Canadians.

I doubt any (well most at least) of us would not want to see the complete privatisation of a health system made available only to those that can afford it, to use a moderate example, or the removal of state funding for education, as a more extreme example.

Limited socialism is not a bad thing, and I suspect most of us would agree that's it's worth a bit extra out of our wages/profits every month to cover those less fortunate, if for no other reason than we may become one of them some day.

Indeed what Corbyn is offering is perfumed arse water to people who can't see why excessive taxation on the bourgeoisie and large corporations will end in disaster, and some considerable time before it becomes 'their children's problem'.

But many here (and I detect a Corbynite or two in the crowd saying similar), are not wrong when they suggest that the Tories have to sell something more positive than 'more of the same plus a little bit worse' like some kind of insolvency practitioner managing a voluntary arrangement to a deadline.

The Tories also need to return to solid conservative ideas and values. As I've said before - that does not include Snooper's Charters and handy adjustments to human rights. To any thinking/educated person, these things smack of authoritarianism and totalitarianism.

[Cobnapint]

longtimeracer said:

What he is doing is tapping into the fact that young people are wakening up to politics at last; old fart; redneck and blow you jack I'm alright politics are going to be challenged, has to be good for democracy surely?

If you like fooling the young into believing everything is free - then yes.

[gooner1]

Willy Nilly said:

He'd have been fairly easy to pick off with a rifle on that stage.

You are Johnny Depp and I claim my £5.

[Goaty Bill 2]

gooner1 said:

Willy Nilly said:

He'd have been fairly easy to pick off with a rifle on that stage.

You are Johnny Depp and I claim my £5.

It would be doing McDonnell's work for him.
Alluding to earlier posts - I think we may have identified 'Squealer'.

[MrBrightSi]

gooner1 said:

Willy Nilly said:

He'd have been fairly easy to pick off with a rifle on that stage.

You are Johnny Depp and I claim my £5.

If you're taking out Corbyn, wouldn't an icepick to the skull in some South American country be more, you know, along the same historic line of succession.

[irocfan]

Raygun said:

You don't hear too much from Hillary Clinton since she lost the election unfortunately the same can't be said about Jeremy Corbyn.

I think after three failed attempts she finally! took the hint

[FN2TypeR]

irocfan said:

Raygun said:

You don't hear too much from Hillary Clinton since she lost the election unfortunately the same can't be said about Jeremy Corbyn.

I think after three failed attempts she finally! took the hint

Also, she was a presidential candidate, they traditionally stand aside after defeat as they aren't nominated the post for an indefinite term like the leader of a UK political party, Corbyn is the leader of the largest opposition party, surely that isn't hard to grasp?

[durbster]

Moonhawk said:

Most kids have socialist ideals, because to date most have lived a socialist existence (i.e. spending other people's money). Who wouldn't want that!

It's only once they get into the big wide world that many realise their life isn't going to be funded by the grace of other people's money - and that's when many start to change their attitude (and voting intention).

This always comes up. What do you mean by "other people's money?".

Puggit said:

Companies making vast profits like this is exactly what they're objecting to. Their beef is with the poor legislation that allows companies to make vast profits, not with the companies themselves.

Edited by durbster on Saturday 24th June 20:24

[gooner1]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

gooner1 said:

Willy Nilly said:

He'd have been fairly easy to pick off with a rifle on that stage.

You are Johnny Depp and I claim my £5.

It would be doing McDonnell's work for him.
Alluding to earlier posts - I think we may have identified 'Squealer'.

But why bother, They'll be turning against him in their droves in a few weeks, won't they?

[Randy Winkman]

Rich_W said:

Randy Winkman said:

The Tories ought to watch and try to learn something.

It's just fluff designed to boost his ego.


Why would they emulate that?

Because they might find out that if they lighten-up and engage with people rather than look like a bunch of stuffed shirts that know better they might avoid the sort of monstrous cock-up like they had a couple of weeks ago. And before any one says "But they won", they didn't. They screwed up massively.