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sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
And the Tories bribe to the DUP came from what specific species of Flora?
How many votes in the general election did this give the Tories?election.
Again, you find it difficult to actually answer a question.
gooner1 said:
Who said this bribe gained the tories votes, though it could well cost the votes in the next
election.
Read the posts in which the comment appeared...election.
gooner1 said:
Again, you find it difficult to actually answer a question.
You appear to find it difficult to understand a simple answer!Tuna said:
gooner1 said:
What high profile promise in the Labour manifesto was admitted to being a lie?
The cancellation of student debt. First it was a manifesto promise. Then an 'aspiration'. Then it was not possible. There has been some rather busy back pedalling this week.Dazed and Confused said:
Oh, the irony.
Corbyn now more popular than May.
www.pressreader.com/uk/london-evening-standard-wes...
Labour have certainly defied the odds of catching up to the Conservatives.Corbyn now more popular than May.
www.pressreader.com/uk/london-evening-standard-wes...
A poll hasn't risen this quickly since I accidentally walked in on Sarah's friend taking a shower.
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Oh, the irony.
Corbyn now more popular than May.
www.pressreader.com/uk/london-evening-standard-wes...
Labour have certainly defied the odds of catching up to the Conservatives.Corbyn now more popular than May.
www.pressreader.com/uk/london-evening-standard-wes...
A poll hasn't risen this quickly since I accidentally walked in on Sarah's friend taking a shower.
Garvin said:
Tuna said:
gooner1 said:
What high profile promise in the Labour manifesto was admitted to being a lie?
The cancellation of student debt. First it was a manifesto promise. Then an 'aspiration'. Then it was not possible. There has been some rather busy back pedalling this week.It wasn't in their manifesto, so it couldn't have been a manifesto promise.
A lot of aspirations do not come to fruition, just ask TM, that doesn't make them lies.
gooner1 said:
It wasn't in their manifesto, so it couldn't have been a manifesto promise.
A lot of aspirations do not come to fruition, just ask TM, that doesn't make them lies.
A quite blatant lie to win votes.
I'll give him credit, he is at least quite clever with the way he lies and tries to manipulate people.
gooner1 said:
Garvin said:
Tuna said:
gooner1 said:
What high profile promise in the Labour manifesto was admitted to being a lie?
The cancellation of student debt. First it was a manifesto promise. Then an 'aspiration'. Then it was not possible. There has been some rather busy back pedalling this week.It wasn't in their manifesto, so it couldn't have been a manifesto promise.
A lot of aspirations do not come to fruition, just ask TM, that doesn't make them lies.
ks clearly designed to mislead those who are/were facing student debt. Incompetence or just cynical manipulation? Take your pick..Garvin said:
However, IIRC Corybyn starting intimating that he would move to cancel student debt after publication of the manifesto but before the election during his interview with NME. Spouting off on uncosted and unfunded bks clearly designed to mislead those who are/were facing student debt. Incompetence or just cynical manipulation? Take your pick..
Quite!ks clearly designed to mislead those who are/were facing student debt. Incompetence or just cynical manipulation? Take your pick..Reminiscent of a short-lived Roman emperor who promised his praetorians a huge pay rise if they chose him over the others. When he couldn't afford to pay them and keep his promises, they killed him!
chris watton said:
Quite!
Reminiscent of a short-lived Roman emperor who promised his praetorians a huge pay rise if they chose him over the others. When he couldn't afford to pay them and keep his promises, they killed him!
Indeed - the economics haven't shifted since the election, it's simply that there are no votes to be bought now, so they have to step away from their ludicrous promises!Reminiscent of a short-lived Roman emperor who promised his praetorians a huge pay rise if they chose him over the others. When he couldn't afford to pay them and keep his promises, they killed him!
gooner1 said:
And the Tories bribe to the DUP came from what specific species of Flora?
sidicks said:
How many votes in the general election did this give the Tories?
gooner1 said:
Who said this bribe gained the tories votes, though it could well cost the votes in the next
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election.[quote]
sidicks]Read the posts in which the comment appeared...[quote said:
The comment appeared in your question to me as far as I'm concerned.
If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
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If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
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gooner1 said:
The comment appeared in your question to me as far as I'm concerned.
If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
Which bit are you struggling with?If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
gooner1 said:
sidicks said:
Randy Winkman said:
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with contempt. The public saw through that.
Labour trying to bribe the electorate by resorting to the magic money tree?Edited by sidicks on Saturday 22 July 20:34
sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
The comment appeared in your question to me as far as I'm concerned.
If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
Which bit are you struggling with?If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
gooner1 said:
sidicks said:
Randy Winkman said:
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with contempt. The public saw through that.
Labour trying to bribe the electorate by resorting to the magic money tree?Edited by sidicks on Saturday 22 July 20:34
sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
The comment appeared in your question to me as far as I'm concerned.
If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
Which bit are you struggling with?If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
gooner1 said:
sidicks said:
Randy Winkman said:
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with contempt. The public saw through that.
Labour trying to bribe the electorate by resorting to the magic money tree?Edited by sidicks on Saturday 22 July 20:34
Oh, that'll be because you haven't answered it, probably.
Garvin said:
I believe he is referring to the source of the £1Bn the Tories are promising to NI being the same source (which it is) of the hundreds of billions that Corbyn was promising and trying to equate the two. One is easily affordable, the other clearly isn't!
But one was a deliberate, unaffordable, bribe to the electorate which clearly impacted the votes of the youngest voters, resulting in a reduced majority for the Tories.The other was a post election deal, diverting increased investment to a different part of the UK.
Not understanding or appreciating the massive difference between the two is unfortunate, to say the least.
Garvin said:
sidicks said:
gooner1 said:
The comment appeared in your question to me as far as I'm concerned.
If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
Which bit are you struggling with?If you are also having a conversation with someone else on the same subject, that's not my concern and I certainly won't answer for a third party. HTH.
gooner1 said:
sidicks said:
Randy Winkman said:
My view is that the electorate were faced with a similar decision to that which they are usually faced with. Except this time, Labour tried to engage with them whilst May thought she was on an absolute banker and treated people with contempt. The public saw through that.
Labour trying to bribe the electorate by resorting to the magic money tree?Edited by sidicks on Saturday 22 July 20:34
sidicks said:
Garvin said:
I believe he is referring to the source of the £1Bn the Tories are promising to NI being the same source (which it is) of the hundreds of billions that Corbyn was promising and trying to equate the two. One is easily affordable, the other clearly isn't!
But one was a deliberate, unaffordable, bribe to the electorate which clearly impacted the votes of the youngest voters, resulting in a reduced majority for the Tories.The other was a post election deal, diverting increased investment to a different part of the UK.
Not understanding or appreciating the massive difference between the two is unfortunate, to say the least.
You can dress it in a skirt and call it Mary if it pleases you, but you, I and and the majority of people recognise it for what it is. A bribe. Do you have actual proof that the abolition of student fees had such an impact on young voters that this was the cause of the reduced majority for the tories,
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