Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
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Jinx said:
Made me chuckle somewhat. Seriously, they thought the sign on the bus was the difference in the referendum result so decided to try their own? I can only assume we all have actually died and been reborn in an ever running sitcom.
The only numbers on a bus anyone pays attention to are on the front, checking if it is the 88 to Camden.
The only numbers on a bus anyone pays attention to are on the front, checking if it is the 88 to Camden.
Remainer how to reverse the referendum handbook said:
Never underestimate the power of a Big Red Bus. We did once but I think we can get away with it ......
PurpleMoonlight said:
powerstroke said:
Yes offended they are only going to spend 2,000 million on Brexit something that will benefit
All of us...
yet they are planning to spend £403million a MILE or 56 BILLION on HS2 !!!!
just so rich people can commute into london !!!!!
Don't worry, you might be able to benefit from a coupon day or something.All of us...
yet they are planning to spend £403million a MILE or 56 BILLION on HS2 !!!!
just so rich people can commute into london !!!!!
Edited by powerstroke on Thursday 22 February 14:56
Does being stupid come naturally to you or do you have to work at it ???
Interesting view from Harry Smith - WW2 vet approaching 95.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
Interesting read from Harry Smith, it's a great shame it was discredited in the last paragraph.
As for discredited, there never was a myth in regards a universal notion that anyone who fought/partook in the Second World War would support the UK in leaving the EU, it is/was a myth.
To suggest it existed, is like suggesting Cameron created the myth in regards Brexit potentially leading to WW3.
Brexit fatigue is certainly growing, perpetuated by those who are doing all they can to stop the decision made in by a democratic process, the same people trying to stop the process are the very people who enabled the people to partake in the democratic process in the first place.
Those people who enabled the people, didn't like the result the people gave them.
As for discredited, there never was a myth in regards a universal notion that anyone who fought/partook in the Second World War would support the UK in leaving the EU, it is/was a myth.
To suggest it existed, is like suggesting Cameron created the myth in regards Brexit potentially leading to WW3.
Brexit fatigue is certainly growing, perpetuated by those who are doing all they can to stop the decision made in by a democratic process, the same people trying to stop the process are the very people who enabled the people to partake in the democratic process in the first place.
Those people who enabled the people, didn't like the result the people gave them.
Gloria Slap said:
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
Ever been through a divorce Glo?Gloria Slap said:
Interesting view from Harry Smith - WW2 vet approaching 95.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
Shirley some mistake Gloria..........you having time for the views of someone born before 1985. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
Gloria Slap said:
Interesting view from Harry Smith - WW2 vet approaching 95.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
Some interesting background on the author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Leslie_Smithhttp://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
fouronthefloor said:
Gloria Slap said:
Interesting view from Harry Smith - WW2 vet approaching 95.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
Some interesting background on the author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Leslie_Smithhttp://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-second-...
A refreshing counter to the myth that brexit would be universally supported by our forces from that era.
The comments section is revealing, as usual - includes usual nonsense about Churchill, age of voters and that old chestnut the level of education correlation with leave vote.
Brexit fatigue is growing; the games between Davis and Barnier and now increasingly tedious and unfruitful, a symbol of the current brexiteers inability to work with Europe, flying directly in the face of the myth that "we'll go global" etc. They can't even work closely with a bloc we've been in for 40 years - its regressive and damaging.
He could be right when we end up with a labour government due to a failure to leave the EU.
Harry Smith said
In March 2016, he said of Corbyn: "He is a very honest-minded man. He has the desire to change things in Britain. Corbyn will change the world for the better. There is no one else"
I am not sure about the better bit, what do you think Gloria ?
HA HA HA HA HA.
Harry Smith?!
You mean the guy who doesn't actually write his own stuff any more and whose name is used as a front by his lefty son and his publisher?
The one notorious in recent years for being used as a way to give a cloak of credibility to a load of utterly innaccurate left wing propaganda b
ks?
That Harry Smith?
Harry Smith?!
You mean the guy who doesn't actually write his own stuff any more and whose name is used as a front by his lefty son and his publisher?
The one notorious in recent years for being used as a way to give a cloak of credibility to a load of utterly innaccurate left wing propaganda b
ks?That Harry Smith?
Well he is entitled to his opinion, and it is refreshing to see veterans embrace and welcome Europe.
It is always saddening when you see a "Britain First" issue pop up saying how the "EU are disrespecting the fallen etc.". Some here actually believe in things like this that "Britain First" say, that is obvious; the backlash supports that too.
I note the thread has been awoken by a simple link, leading to much moaning and knashing of brexiteer teeth - look above - its all negative. Telling.
What point are you making about divorce Alfie? I'm not sure it will end as well as you think.
It is always saddening when you see a "Britain First" issue pop up saying how the "EU are disrespecting the fallen etc.". Some here actually believe in things like this that "Britain First" say, that is obvious; the backlash supports that too.
I note the thread has been awoken by a simple link, leading to much moaning and knashing of brexiteer teeth - look above - its all negative. Telling.
What point are you making about divorce Alfie? I'm not sure it will end as well as you think.
Funny how you weren't around when the new Big Red Bus was wheeled out on this thread - was always one of your favourite topics...
Setting up a strawman, based on a clear absolute minority view, is a tad irritating. After all, there are those on the Remain side that you really wouldn't like being associated with - nor would you appreciate posts attempting to conflate your opinions with theirs.
Setting up a strawman, based on a clear absolute minority view, is a tad irritating. After all, there are those on the Remain side that you really wouldn't like being associated with - nor would you appreciate posts attempting to conflate your opinions with theirs.
Sway said:
Funny how you weren't around when the new Big Red Bus was wheeled out on this thread - was always one of your favourite topics...
Setting up a strawman, based on a clear absolute minority view, is a tad irritating. After all, there are those on the Remain side that you really wouldn't like being associated with - nor would you appreciate posts attempting to conflate your opinions with theirs.
Oh I saw the bus. I thought it funny that it was being mocked by brexiteers - the irony! Of course the original bus being such a joke was part of its effectiveness. People talked about it more because of the the lies on it.Setting up a strawman, based on a clear absolute minority view, is a tad irritating. After all, there are those on the Remain side that you really wouldn't like being associated with - nor would you appreciate posts attempting to conflate your opinions with theirs.
£2,000M a week worse off. And the sums are more convincing that the £350M lie. Its a national embarrassment.
You call it a strawman but such views are not rare here or elsewhere. Plenty here bang on about Germany running the EU etc. all the time. Its the same "we won the war" little Britain mentality. That is what drives much of it, no matter what intellectual alternative arguments about sovereignty you can throw the gullible to regurgitate. You can tell they don't really understand it when they can't back up their rhetoric with a single compelling example!
EDIT- Bn/M typo for the pedants to jump on!
Edited by Gloria Slap on Sunday 25th February 11:14
Jonesy23 said:
HA HA HA HA HA.
Harry Smith?!
You mean the guy who doesn't actually write his own stuff any more and whose name is used as a front by his lefty son and his publisher?
The one notorious in recent years for being used as a way to give a cloak of credibility to a load of utterly innaccurate left wing propaganda bks?
That Harry Smith?
Interesting further reading about Harry Smith.Harry Smith?!
You mean the guy who doesn't actually write his own stuff any more and whose name is used as a front by his lefty son and his publisher?
The one notorious in recent years for being used as a way to give a cloak of credibility to a load of utterly innaccurate left wing propaganda b
ks?That Harry Smith?
No wonder ///ajd/Gloria Slap got suckered in, after all the media Harry doesn't write for any more is the same media the man with two names uses as his propaganda for his ever failing agenda.
A hearty lol sums it up.
Gloria Slap said:
Sway said:
Funny how you weren't around when the new Big Red Bus was wheeled out on this thread - was always one of your favourite topics...
Setting up a strawman, based on a clear absolute minority view, is a tad irritating. After all, there are those on the Remain side that you really wouldn't like being associated with - nor would you appreciate posts attempting to conflate your opinions with theirs.
Oh I saw the bus. I thought it funny that it was being mocked by brexiteers - the irony! Of course the original bus being such a joke was part of its effectiveness. People talked about it more because of the the lies on it.Setting up a strawman, based on a clear absolute minority view, is a tad irritating. After all, there are those on the Remain side that you really wouldn't like being associated with - nor would you appreciate posts attempting to conflate your opinions with theirs.
£2,000Bn a week worse off. And the sums are more convincing that the £350M lie. Its a national embarrassment.
You call it a strawman but such views are not rare here or elsewhere. Plenty here bang on about Germany running the EU etc. all the time. Its the same "we won the war" little Britain mentality. That is what drives much of it, no matter what intellectual alternative arguments about sovereignty you can throw the gullible to regurgitate. You can tell they don't really understand it when they can't back up their rhetoric with a single compelling example!
£2Tn a week more convincing? f
king hell. The views you're talking about are rare - what support does Britain First get? Hardly any. What percentage of people do you think 'believe the myth' that all British soldiers from WW2 would have supported Brexit? Come off it chap, you're drinking the Kool Aid a bit early for a Sunday...
Oh, and anything to refute Germany having an increased level of influence compared to most other nations? Of course, it's exceptionally difficult to think of examples of Merkel browbeating other nations into agreeing with her position. Oh wait...
Gloria Slap said:
£2,000Bn a week worse off. And the sums are more convincing that the £350M lie. Its a national embarrassment.
!
But any sensible person knows it isn't any more convincing. It is just a vague prediction for 15 years in the future. Go back and look at predictions for the world of 2018 in 2003 and see how convincing they look now. !
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