FGM Parties

[WinstonWolf]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

WinstonWolf said:

Why the obsession with interfering with children's genitalia?

I thought that's what this thread was about. What were you expecting, a detailed critique of the USA's involvement in Central American politics during the 70s and 80s?

But why do you want to let someone else interfere with a child's genitals?

[Cotty]

Troubleatmill said:

Murder is evil.
So is rape.
We should be looking to stamp out both as soon as possible - wouldn't you say?

I know a great way of eradicating both of them, end the human race.

[PotatoSalad]

alock said:

Is FGM type 1a acceptable?

http://www.who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/fgm/o...

Edited by alock on Saturday 15th July 11:00

No it's not. It's a barbaric tribal nonsense and anyone doing this to their children in 2017 is an utter c**t who deserves absolutely no respect, regardless of their motivation, which in Britain happens to be predominantly religious. And we all know which religion that is, whether the dimwit apologists like it or not.

And so are the people trying to justify it.

End of story.

[BlackLabel]

What a strange image to use next to an FGM risk tweet.

https://mobile.twitter.com/barnardos/status/892626...

[steveT350C]

Strange indeed....
https://shysociety.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/charit...

[Dromedary66]

Cowards not wanting to offend their muslim ceo.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

I kind of thought that one of the main signs that a girl might be at risk is that she won't be white!

[BlackLabel]

“A father organised for his nine-year-old daughter to undergo female genital mutilation to punish her, a court has heard.

The Old Bailey heard someone came to the family home on two occasions and used a razor to cut the young girl as she lay in the hallway.“

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-4...

[Countdown]

BlackLabel said:

“A father organised for his nine-year-old daughter to undergo female genital mutilation to punish her, a court has heard.

The Old Bailey heard someone came to the family home on two occasions and used a razor to cut the young girl as she lay in the hallway.“

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-4...

There is such a simple, easy and straightforward way of demonstrating to the Father why what he did was wrong. It's a shame that he's not allowed to experience it.

[BlackLabel]

Not guilty.

beeb said:

A father has been found not guilty of organising for his nine-year-old daughter to undergo female genital mutilation (FGM) to punish her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43503416

It sounds like the mother is the one who should have been on trial. What a fked up situation.

The defence QC said:

After the breakdown of the parents’ marriage, the children had been “susceptible to their mother’s influence at the expense of their relationship with their father and have, whether consciously or not, rewritten their history”.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/22/uk-solicitor-acquited-forcing-daughter-fgm-female-genital-mutilation

beeb said:

Giving evidence, the defendant said the allegations were fabrications arising from the acrimonious breakdown of his marriage.
"I need to know who cut my daughter. It's not me," he told the jury.
"I don't know who cut my daughter. I didn't organise it. I was not part of it."
During his evidence, the defendant described allegations by his daughter that he hit her with a cane and threatened her with an iron as the "height of fabrication".
He said his wife had repeatedly threatened to destroy him during their marriage and had turned his children against him

Edited by BlackLabel on Thursday 22 March 15:44

[del mar]

If we cant prosecute anybody for it, why don't we just make it legal ?

[Countdown]

del mar said:

If we cant prosecute anybody for it, why don't we just make it legal ?

We can prosecute. If you read the link posted by BL you'll read about somebody being prosecuted for it.

[del mar]

ok.

Successfully prosecute and convict.

[Countdown]

del mar said:

ok.

Successfully prosecute and convict.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of cases where the prosecution isn't successful.

Should we just make everything legal (as you suggest) ?

For whatever reason, the prosecution hasn't been successful in this case. It's still a particularly vile crime that needs to be prosecuted.

Or are you just trolling again?

[4x4Tyke]

anonymous said:

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Really. That is what this news brings to mind.

[del mar]

Countdown said:

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of cases where the prosecution isn't successful.

Should we just make everything legal (as you suggest) ?

For whatever reason, the prosecution hasn't been successful in this case. It's still a particularly vile crime that needs to be prosecuted.

Or are you just trolling again?

It has been illegal for over 30 yet not one successful prosecution.

There are thousands of girls/women in the UK that have been cut, and in the vast majority of cases we have no idea of where, when and by who.

The parents do not cut their children because they hate them or to deliberately cause then harm, I doubt they love them any less than you or I love our children. It is done from some misguided cultural belief, or in some cases because they think their god recommends it.

I don't believe sending two loving parents to jail and dumping a BAME child in care is the correct solution.

If we are supportive of non EU migration we have to accept that they will bring their little cultural / religious quirks with them.

[rscott]

del mar said:

Countdown said:

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of cases where the prosecution isn't successful.

Should we just make everything legal (as you suggest) ?

For whatever reason, the prosecution hasn't been successful in this case. It's still a particularly vile crime that needs to be prosecuted.

Or are you just trolling again?

It has been illegal for over 30 yet not one successful prosecution.

There are thousands of girls/women in the UK that have been cut, and in the vast majority of cases we have no idea of where, when and by who.

The parents do not cut their children because they hate them or to deliberately cause then harm, I doubt they love them any less than you or I love our children. It is done from some misguided cultural belief, or in some cases because they think their god recommends it.

I don't believe sending two loving parents to jail and dumping a BAME child in care is the correct solution.

If we are supportive of non EU migration we have to accept that they will bring their little cultural / religious quirks with them.

Data exists for around 1/3 of cases - http://digital.nhs.uk/media/31436/FGM-Annual-Repor... . For those cases, the vast majority of them happened overseas and when the individual was verey young. Obviously we can't do anything about those, but surely we should be focusing on preventing new cases happening here.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

del mar said:

I don't believe sending two loving parents to jail and dumping a BAME child in care is the correct solution.

If we are supportive of non EU migration we have to accept that they will bring their little cultural / religious quirks with them.

I agree it's not a long term solution, but the theory is maybe 20 or 30 successful prosecutions in a year with parents sent to jail for a long time would bring a halt to the practice. I guess until we try it, we won't know.

[4x4Tyke]

When they blame each other like this, both suspects should be charged as if they are engaged in a joint enterprise since both parents are responsible for their children's care and welfare. Let the jury decide who is guilty, one, the other or both.

[Dromedary66]

4x4Tyke said:

When they blame each other like this, both suspects should be charged as if they are engaged in a joint enterprise since both parents are responsible for their children's care and welfare. Let the jury decide who is guilty, one, the other or both.

Agreed.