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Woman admits that “30 years ago FGM was widespread in Cardiff's Somali community” but is now complaining about being “stigmatised and racially profiled” by health professionals and others when it comes to the safeguarding of children. 30 years ago isn’t that long ago in the grand scheme of things - can’t really blame health workers for acting in the way they do.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44440167
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44440167
That was always going to be the issue in reporting children that maybe at risk.
All you are going to report on is Muslims, which will go down like a cup of cold sick, you just wont have concerns re FGM on Chantelle from the local council estate, there maybe other issues but FGM is not going to be one of them.
We have done it before but not anymore, that is ok then we will take your word on that.
All you are going to report on is Muslims, which will go down like a cup of cold sick, you just wont have concerns re FGM on Chantelle from the local council estate, there maybe other issues but FGM is not going to be one of them.
We have done it before but not anymore, that is ok then we will take your word on that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45442795
Not only are there pressures to have the right trainers and latest smartphone, but you must also be cut in the correct way to join in....
Not only are there pressures to have the right trainers and latest smartphone, but you must also be cut in the correct way to join in....
Dromedary66 said:
What changes would they like? To pick people at random. Great idea, must make sure Mr and Mrs Evans aren't planning anything illegal when taking their daughter to the Sudan to "visit family"
If it comes to it, the following would work. Baby born in the UK, the fact that it is "intact" is recorded.
If the child is discovered to have been mutliated at any stage in it subsequent life, both parents go to jail unless they can demonstrate that they did not raise the child (e.g. divorce, one parent leaves the country).
Doesn't matter if Auntie Flo did the deed, the parents are going down for neglect.
Triumph Man said:
del mar said:
If we cant prosecute anybody for it, why don't we just make it legal ?
Because we aren't a backward 3rd world hell hole, and should not encourage such barbaric practice.Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?
del mar said:
But if done in a safe sterile medical environment there is no risk.
Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?
On the face of it that's quite a cretinous statement. After all, surely to anybody with a functioning brain would accept that it's quite a vile thing to do to a girl regardless of how "safe" you suggest it is.Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?
But the reality is more insidious that that, isn't it Del?
You're playing the faux naif by making such a suggestion in the hope that you can get PHers (those that can't see through your or those that share your vile views) all angry against muslims and immigrants. And please don't pretend this isn't your aim, it's obvious from many of the other threads that you grace with your presence.
FGM is a vile thing. It is banned and it needs to be eradicated. You are also quite a sad and vile individual for using it to push your agenda.
Countdown said:
del mar said:
But if done in a safe sterile medical environment there is no risk.
Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?
On the face of it that's quite a cretinous statement. After all, surely to anybody with a functioning brain would accept that it's quite a vile thing to do to a girl regardless of how "safe" you suggest it is.Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?
But the reality is more insidious that that, isn't it Del?
You're playing the faux naif by making such a suggestion in the hope that you can get PHers (those that can't see through your or those that share your vile views) all angry against muslims and immigrants. And please don't pretend this isn't your aim, it's obvious from many of the other threads that you grace with your presence.
FGM is a vile thing. It is banned and it needs to be eradicated. You are also quite a sad and vile individual for using it to push your agenda.
In a safe sterile environment I don't see what the issue is, the amount of cutting could be controlled / regulated. Using the back of an old rusty spoon in a mud hut is not the environment to have this done.
But you are correct we only have this vile thing as an issue in the country as we have imported it, no immigration no FGM, who would have though it !
"There hasn't been a case of FGM in the UK, it's a disproportionate response" where do they dig up these lunatics from?
https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/103801558959439...
https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/103801558959439...
TwigtheWonderkid said:
del mar said:
But you are correct we only have this vile thing as an issue in the country as we have imported it, no immigration no FGM, who would have though it !
Just as well, as without immigration, we wouldn't have an NHS to treat the complications!Only 20% of all NHS workers are classified as BAME, they make up about 13% of our population. They are over represented but not by the huge amount that popular perception would have us believe.
Some sectors will have different proportions.
del mar said:
That is only partially true.
Only 20% of all NHS workers are classified as BAME, they make up about 13% of our population. They are over represented but not by the huge amount that popular perception would have us believe.
Some sectors will have different proportions.
Good to have you back Del.Only 20% of all NHS workers are classified as BAME, they make up about 13% of our population. They are over represented but not by the huge amount that popular perception would have us believe.
Some sectors will have different proportions.
I've missed your incisive social commentary and insightful statistical analysis.
del mar said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
del mar said:
But you are correct we only have this vile thing as an issue in the country as we have imported it, no immigration no FGM, who would have though it !
Just as well, as without immigration, we wouldn't have an NHS to treat the complications!Only 20% of all NHS workers are classified as BAME, they make up about 13% of our population. They are over represented but not by the huge amount that popular perception would have us believe.
Some sectors will have different proportions.
Happy now?
It can be done safely and in a sterile environment - I knew it!!
http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/countries/indonesia/
Indonesia the most populous Muslim country in the world appears to have unbanned it to allow Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation, in a controlled regulated sterile environment.
The particular Muslim association that lobbied for the change has 40m members/ followers, surely they can’t all be wrong ?
My geography isn’t what it used to be but I don’t believe Indonesia is in Arica ?
http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/countries/indonesia/
Indonesia the most populous Muslim country in the world appears to have unbanned it to allow Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation, in a controlled regulated sterile environment.
The particular Muslim association that lobbied for the change has 40m members/ followers, surely they can’t all be wrong ?
My geography isn’t what it used to be but I don’t believe Indonesia is in Arica ?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
OK, I apologise. No NHS in London and many other major cities. But NHS Cotswolds and Wester Ross will be just fine.
Happy now?
I think London would be ok, nigh on 40% of Londoners are immigrants anyway - 2011 census.Happy now?
Lose 40% of the population you suddenly don’t need as many nhs staff.
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