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del mar

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2,838 posts

199 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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I am sure somebody on the Circumcision thread was of the opinion that "parents know best"...

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Woman admits that “30 years ago FGM was widespread in Cardiff's Somali community” but is now complaining about being “stigmatised and racially profiled” by health professionals and others when it comes to the safeguarding of children. 30 years ago isn’t that long ago in the grand scheme of things - can’t really blame health workers for acting in the way they do.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44440167



del mar

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2,838 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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That was always going to be the issue in reporting children that maybe at risk.

All you are going to report on is Muslims, which will go down like a cup of cold sick, you just wont have concerns re FGM on Chantelle from the local council estate, there maybe other issues but FGM is not going to be one of them.

We have done it before but not anymore, that is ok then we will take your word on that.





Dromedary66

1,924 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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What changes would they like? To pick people at random. Great idea, must make sure Mr and Mrs Evans aren't planning anything illegal when taking their daughter to the Sudan to "visit family"

rscott

14,740 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Maybe needs clearer recording of cases, to distinguish between historical and recent ones? I'm assuming the physical examination can easily determine whether the butchery is relatively recent.

del mar

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199 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45442795

Not only are there pressures to have the right trainers and latest smartphone, but you must also be cut in the correct way to join in....

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Dromedary66 said:
What changes would they like? To pick people at random. Great idea, must make sure Mr and Mrs Evans aren't planning anything illegal when taking their daughter to the Sudan to "visit family"
If it comes to it, the following would work.

Baby born in the UK, the fact that it is "intact" is recorded.

If the child is discovered to have been mutliated at any stage in it subsequent life, both parents go to jail unless they can demonstrate that they did not raise the child (e.g. divorce, one parent leaves the country).

Doesn't matter if Auntie Flo did the deed, the parents are going down for neglect.



Triumph Man

8,688 posts

168 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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del mar said:
If we cant prosecute anybody for it, why don't we just make it legal ?
Because we aren't a backward 3rd world hell hole, and should not encourage such barbaric practice.

Stella Tortoise

2,628 posts

143 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Triumph Man said:
Because we aren't a backward 3rd world hell hole, and should not encourage such barbaric practice.
Yet.

del mar

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199 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Triumph Man said:
del mar said:
If we cant prosecute anybody for it, why don't we just make it legal ?
Because we aren't a backward 3rd world hell hole, and should not encourage such barbaric practice.
But if done in a safe sterile medical environment there is no risk.

Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?

Countdown

39,842 posts

196 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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del mar said:
But if done in a safe sterile medical environment there is no risk.

Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?
On the face of it that's quite a cretinous statement. After all, surely to anybody with a functioning brain would accept that it's quite a vile thing to do to a girl regardless of how "safe" you suggest it is.

But the reality is more insidious that that, isn't it Del?

You're playing the faux naif by making such a suggestion in the hope that you can get PHers (those that can't see through your or those that share your vile views) all angry against muslims and immigrants. And please don't pretend this isn't your aim, it's obvious from many of the other threads that you grace with your presence.

FGM is a vile thing. It is banned and it needs to be eradicated. You are also quite a sad and vile individual for using it to push your agenda.

del mar

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2,838 posts

199 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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Countdown said:
del mar said:
But if done in a safe sterile medical environment there is no risk.

Why does such a barbaric practise occur / appear in our society ?
On the face of it that's quite a cretinous statement. After all, surely to anybody with a functioning brain would accept that it's quite a vile thing to do to a girl regardless of how "safe" you suggest it is.

But the reality is more insidious that that, isn't it Del?

You're playing the faux naif by making such a suggestion in the hope that you can get PHers (those that can't see through your or those that share your vile views) all angry against muslims and immigrants. And please don't pretend this isn't your aim, it's obvious from many of the other threads that you grace with your presence.

FGM is a vile thing. It is banned and it needs to be eradicated. You are also quite a sad and vile individual for using it to push your agenda.
Woman have their bits tidied up in a safe sterile environment without issue. People get the ends of their boys penis chopped off for no reason in a safe sterile environment.

In a safe sterile environment I don't see what the issue is, the amount of cutting could be controlled / regulated. Using the back of an old rusty spoon in a mud hut is not the environment to have this done.

But you are correct we only have this vile thing as an issue in the country as we have imported it, no immigration no FGM, who would have though it !

Russian Troll Bot

24,972 posts

227 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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"There hasn't been a case of FGM in the UK, it's a disproportionate response" where do they dig up these lunatics from?


https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/103801558959439...

TwigtheWonderkid

43,340 posts

150 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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del mar said:
But you are correct we only have this vile thing as an issue in the country as we have imported it, no immigration no FGM, who would have though it !
Just as well, as without immigration, we wouldn't have an NHS to treat the complications!

del mar

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Friday 7th September 2018
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
del mar said:
But you are correct we only have this vile thing as an issue in the country as we have imported it, no immigration no FGM, who would have though it !
Just as well, as without immigration, we wouldn't have an NHS to treat the complications!
That is only partially true.

Only 20% of all NHS workers are classified as BAME, they make up about 13% of our population. They are over represented but not by the huge amount that popular perception would have us believe.

Some sectors will have different proportions.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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del mar said:
That is only partially true.

Only 20% of all NHS workers are classified as BAME, they make up about 13% of our population. They are over represented but not by the huge amount that popular perception would have us believe.

Some sectors will have different proportions.
Good to have you back Del.
I've missed your incisive social commentary and insightful statistical analysis.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,340 posts

150 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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del mar said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
del mar said:
But you are correct we only have this vile thing as an issue in the country as we have imported it, no immigration no FGM, who would have though it !
Just as well, as without immigration, we wouldn't have an NHS to treat the complications!
That is only partially true.

Only 20% of all NHS workers are classified as BAME, they make up about 13% of our population. They are over represented but not by the huge amount that popular perception would have us believe.

Some sectors will have different proportions.
OK, I apologise. No NHS in London and many other major cities. But NHS Cotswolds and Wester Ross will be just fine.

Happy now?

del mar

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Friday 7th September 2018
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desolate said:
Good to have you back Del.
I've missed your incisive social commentary and insightful statistical analysis.
Nobody can invent stats like I can !

del mar

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Friday 7th September 2018
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It can be done safely and in a sterile environment - I knew it!!

http://www.stopfgmmideast.org/countries/indonesia/

Indonesia the most populous Muslim country in the world appears to have unbanned it to allow Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation, in a controlled regulated sterile environment.

The particular Muslim association that lobbied for the change has 40m members/ followers, surely they can’t all be wrong ?

My geography isn’t what it used to be but I don’t believe Indonesia is in Arica ?

del mar

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Friday 7th September 2018
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
OK, I apologise. No NHS in London and many other major cities. But NHS Cotswolds and Wester Ross will be just fine.

Happy now?
I think London would be ok, nigh on 40% of Londoners are immigrants anyway - 2011 census.

Lose 40% of the population you suddenly don’t need as many nhs staff.