The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

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don'tbesilly

13,932 posts

163 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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///ajd said:
ha ha

I've quoted at least 3 now.
No, one - don4l if we are talking specifically about:

///ajd said:
Several brexiteers said "no one will move to Frankfurt from London". Wrong then.
Keep up 'Frenchie', this is tedious!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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///ajd said:
ha ha

I've quoted at least 3 now.

Nitpicking over Frankfurt or Paris is missing the point. Jobs to the EU is the point.

And why do you need proof of people moving? Plenty of stories now, but the pointless argument was whether any brexiteers here had said "scaremongering, no one will move (to Frankfurt)".

"No one ever ever said it" came the cry. Find proof! Well I have, and they did!
Pre the Brexit vote were any jobs created in the financial sector in any EU country other than the UK?

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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jsf said:
Pre the Brexit vote were any jobs created in the financial sector in any EU country other than the UK?
Yep.

Have any jobs been created in the EU - at the expense of UK jobs - due to brexit?

That's a yes too.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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So what's the problem?

Employment figures are always changing in this sector.

AI and ongoing restructuring is going to decimate the jobs in this sector worldwide and will have a much more significant effect than Brexit.

Brexit certainly won't be a game changer for the city.

Maybe you should move on to another sector that will be decimated by Brexit because you have shot your bolt on this one.

amgmcqueen

3,346 posts

150 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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///ajd said:
jsf said:
Pre the Brexit vote were any jobs created in the financial sector in any EU country other than the UK?
Yep.

Have any jobs been created in the EU - at the expense of UK jobs - due to brexit?

That's a yes too.
Tell me.....how many British factories closed while we were part of the EU? How many British jobs were lost while we were in the EU?

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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///ajd said:
The facts are they are moving / creating jobs in the EU - not the UK - 100% because of brexit. We are driving investment & our GDP off shore.

Context is indeed everything. And its the elephant in the room which no brexiteer can see, it seems.
It's 2% of their feckin workforce here and isn't even definitively a "move".

Jobs get created all over the world in this sector for all manner of reasons. Where has your soapbox been for the last 20yrs? (Hopefully directed at a sector you know something about).

You're a troll desperately clutching at straws. You are a desperate bad news bear and thus far every scaremongering prediction you have clung to has meant bugger all.

You will fill this forum if you start shouting about every role created outside of the UK in the FS sector over the next 5yrs, just as you would have over the last 20. It's utterly, utterly meaningless.

When Citi move 2,250+ jobs from this country as a direct result of Brexit, then come back and say "I told you so". When the Financial Services sector in this country collapses and contributes nothing to the UK I will tell you loud and clear my vote was a grave error.

Until then spend a bit more time trying to find something material to moan about as that will make you look a lot less like Chicken Licken.

B'stard Child

28,393 posts

246 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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jsf said:
So what's the problem?

Employment figures are always changing in this sector.

AI and ongoing restructuring is going to decimate the jobs in this sector worldwide and will have a much more significant effect than Brexit.

Brexit certainly won't be a game changer for the city.

Maybe you should move on to another sector that will be decimated by Brexit because you have shot your bolt on this one.
Perhaps go back to sticking up for the poor???

Dissident Dragon

117 posts

236 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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///ajd said:
Yep.

Have any jobs been created in the EU - at the expense of UK jobs - due to brexit?

That's a yes too.
Have any jobs been created in the UK - at the expense of EU jobs - due to Brexit?

That's a yes too.

I am currently working with three Irish companies that together are looking to create over 1,000 jobs in the UK directly as a result of Brexit. There are many other Irish companies investigating similar. It's not all one way.

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Dissident Dragon said:
...It's not all one way.
If all you want to see is negatives, then it very much is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Haven't been back to this thread for a while.

I have a genuine question to present.

/// do you believe the twin towers was a conspiracy?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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DoubleTime said:
Haven't been back to this thread for a while.

I have a genuine question to present.

/// do you believe the twin towers was a conspiracy?
Yes, obviously. Did you mean to ask 'conspiracy by xxx'?

Wayne E Edge

545 posts

151 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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I think the delusion runs deep in these threads. Those thinking the UK is doing well and will do well after. But hey-ho that's what the small majority wanted.

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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jsf said:
So what's the problem?

Employment figures are always changing in this sector.

AI and ongoing restructuring is going to decimate the jobs in this sector worldwide and will have a much more significant effect than Brexit.

Brexit certainly won't be a game changer for the city.

Maybe you should move on to another sector that will be decimated by Brexit because you have shot your bolt on this one.
So you're effectively saying - stop worrying, no jobs will move from London to e.g. Frankfurt.

Got it smile

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

154 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Wayne E Edge said:
I think the delusion runs deep in these threads. Those thinking the UK is doing well and will do well after. But hey-ho that's what the small majority wanted.
Ain't democracy a bh...

turbobloke

103,940 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Nothingtoseehere said:
Wayne E Edge said:
I think the delusion runs deep in these threads. Those thinking the UK is doing well and will do well after. But hey-ho that's what the small majority wanted.
Ain't democracy a bh...
hehe

Crystal balls are regularly at work in the Remoaner camp but where are their lottery wins?

Kojak would have said:
Who's deluded baby

Nothingtoseehere

7,379 posts

154 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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turbobloke said:
Nothingtoseehere said:
Wayne E Edge said:
I think the delusion runs deep in these threads. Those thinking the UK is doing well and will do well after. But hey-ho that's what the small majority wanted.
Ain't democracy a bh...
hehe

Crystal balls are regularly at work in the Remoaner camp but where are their lottery wins?

Kojak would have said:
Who's deluded baby
I do wonder if I accidentally clicked the Sally Morgan forum sometimes..

Police State

4,065 posts

220 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Dissident Dragon said:
///ajd said:
Yep.

Have any jobs been created in the EU - at the expense of UK jobs - due to brexit?

That's a yes too.
Have any jobs been created in the UK - at the expense of EU jobs - due to Brexit?

That's a yes too.

I am currently working with three Irish companies that together are looking to create over 1,000 jobs in the UK directly as a result of Brexit. There are many other Irish companies investigating similar. It's not all one way.
I'm curious about this one... (genuine question)
Why are Irish companies keen to create 1000 jobs as a direct result of Brexit; what's in it for them that's not (necessarily) in it for them in Ireland, post Brexit?

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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///ajd said:
So you're effectively saying - stop worrying, no jobs will move from London to e.g. Frankfurt.

Got it smile
I think the class where my 5yr old learns to read has some spaces if you want their details wink

SunsetZed

2,249 posts

170 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Police State said:
Dissident Dragon said:
///ajd said:
Yep.

Have any jobs been created in the EU - at the expense of UK jobs - due to brexit?

That's a yes too.
Have any jobs been created in the UK - at the expense of EU jobs - due to Brexit?

That's a yes too.

I am currently working with three Irish companies that together are looking to create over 1,000 jobs in the UK directly as a result of Brexit. There are many other Irish companies investigating similar. It's not all one way.
I'm curious about this one... (genuine question)
Why are Irish companies keen to create 1000 jobs as a direct result of Brexit; what's in it for them that's not (necessarily) in it for them in Ireland, post Brexit?
so they could avoid any tariffs in the event of no single market tariff free access possibly?

Sway

26,266 posts

194 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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SunsetZed said:
Police State said:
Dissident Dragon said:
///ajd said:
Yep.

Have any jobs been created in the EU - at the expense of UK jobs - due to brexit?

That's a yes too.
Have any jobs been created in the UK - at the expense of EU jobs - due to Brexit?

That's a yes too.

I am currently working with three Irish companies that together are looking to create over 1,000 jobs in the UK directly as a result of Brexit. There are many other Irish companies investigating similar. It's not all one way.
I'm curious about this one... (genuine question)
Why are Irish companies keen to create 1000 jobs as a direct result of Brexit; what's in it for them that's not (necessarily) in it for them in Ireland, post Brexit?
so they could avoid any tariffs in the event of no single market tariff free access possibly?
It's hilarious.

Constant complaints that brexit will guarantee that any UK business that relies on EU exports will up sticks and move to the EU, yet compete blindness to the fact that this is also likely to operate in the opposite direction - EU businesses that rely on UK sales are just as likely to want to move here...

If ever there was an example of partisan blindness here it is.
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