The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

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alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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CaptainSlow said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
Jimboka said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40042427
There's a surprise, growth stalling due to brexit.
I suppose trashing the economy is one way of deterring our better off European friends from coming here, to live/work/pay taxes
Brexit isn't mentioned in the linked article. None of the economists' guesses passed off as explanations involve any hint of a brexit mention. Presumably this "due to brexit" claim is your attempt to boost manufacture and fabrication.
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.

At €1.15/£ at the moment. Interesting to see what it will do post Jun 8 - I would guess go up, but then again the election is surely a foregone conclusion, so maybe it will just fluctuate in its new brexit levels, until the news from the negotiations starts to make it follow the emerging impact on our economic future.
Any update on when our promised "immediate" and "profound" recession will start?
We haven't left yet biggrin is that right slasher?

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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CaptainSlow said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
Jimboka said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40042427
There's a surprise, growth stalling due to brexit.
I suppose trashing the economy is one way of deterring our better off European friends from coming here, to live/work/pay taxes
Brexit isn't mentioned in the linked article. None of the economists' guesses passed off as explanations involve any hint of a brexit mention. Presumably this "due to brexit" claim is your attempt to boost manufacture and fabrication.
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.

At €1.15/£ at the moment. Interesting to see what it will do post Jun 8 - I would guess go up, but then again the election is surely a foregone conclusion, so maybe it will just fluctuate in its new brexit levels, until the news from the negotiations starts to make it follow the emerging impact on our economic future.
Any update on when our promised "immediate" and "profound" recession will start?
No, it will be much more gradual than that - more like the steady erosion in GDP growth over the next decades that the treasury predicted. Still big billions a year by that time of course (the loss dwarfing any costs of EU membership).

Any update on the £350m/week to the NHS? How is that panning out?



Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

243 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
quotequote all
///ajd said:
CaptainSlow said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
Jimboka said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40042427
There's a surprise, growth stalling due to brexit.
I suppose trashing the economy is one way of deterring our better off European friends from coming here, to live/work/pay taxes
Brexit isn't mentioned in the linked article. None of the economists' guesses passed off as explanations involve any hint of a brexit mention. Presumably this "due to brexit" claim is your attempt to boost manufacture and fabrication.
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.

At €1.15/£ at the moment. Interesting to see what it will do post Jun 8 - I would guess go up, but then again the election is surely a foregone conclusion, so maybe it will just fluctuate in its new brexit levels, until the news from the negotiations starts to make it follow the emerging impact on our economic future.
Any update on when our promised "immediate" and "profound" recession will start?
No, it will be much more gradual than that - more like the steady erosion in GDP growth over the next decades that the treasury predicted. Still big billions a year by that time of course (the loss dwarfing any costs of EU membership).

Any update on the £350m/week to the NHS? How is that panning out?
Oh gawd, still with the big red bus tourettes. Predictable as ever.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
quotequote all
///ajd said:
CaptainSlow said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
Jimboka said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40042427
There's a surprise, growth stalling due to brexit.
I suppose trashing the economy is one way of deterring our better off European friends from coming here, to live/work/pay taxes
Brexit isn't mentioned in the linked article. None of the economists' guesses passed off as explanations involve any hint of a brexit mention. Presumably this "due to brexit" claim is your attempt to boost manufacture and fabrication.
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.

At €1.15/£ at the moment. Interesting to see what it will do post Jun 8 - I would guess go up, but then again the election is surely a foregone conclusion, so maybe it will just fluctuate in its new brexit levels, until the news from the negotiations starts to make it follow the emerging impact on our economic future.
Any update on when our promised "immediate" and "profound" recession will start?
No, it will be much more gradual than that - more like the steady erosion in GDP growth over the next decades that the treasury predicted. Still big billions a year by that time of course (the loss dwarfing any costs of EU membership).

Any update on the £350m/week to the NHS? How is that panning out?
Panning out you say....funny you should say that as it has just had a new vinyl wrap...wot u reckon slasher?


don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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///ajd said:
CaptainSlow said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
Jimboka said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40042427
There's a surprise, growth stalling due to brexit.
I suppose trashing the economy is one way of deterring our better off European friends from coming here, to live/work/pay taxes
Brexit isn't mentioned in the linked article. None of the economists' guesses passed off as explanations involve any hint of a brexit mention. Presumably this "due to brexit" claim is your attempt to boost manufacture and fabrication.
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.

At €1.15/£ at the moment. Interesting to see what it will do post Jun 8 - I would guess go up, but then again the election is surely a foregone conclusion, so maybe it will just fluctuate in its new brexit levels, until the news from the negotiations starts to make it follow the emerging impact on our economic future.
Any update on when our promised "immediate" and "profound" recession will start?
Any update on the £350m/week to the NHS? How is that panning out?
There might well be an update in April 2019 when the shackles will be released.

Any update on how your hero Tim Farron is getting on?

I believe both you and Guy Verhofstadt see Tim as the saviour and Tim will keep the UK in the EU, how do you think that will pan out?

Anything about it in the Guardian, or perhaps the Independent?

No links?

None at all?


FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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don'tbesilly said:
Any update on how your hero Tim Farron is getting on?
Yougov say 10%

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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Latest on the bus





don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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FN2TypeR said:
don'tbesilly said:
Any update on how your hero Tim Farron is getting on?
Yougov say 10%
///ajd's poster boy is going down a storm..............................................drain.

csd19

2,189 posts

117 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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///ajd said:
Latest on the bus

Nice, only 6 months out of date...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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///ajd said:
No, it will be much more gradual than that - more like the steady erosion in GDP growth over the next decades that the treasury predicted. Still big billions a year by that time of course (the loss dwarfing any costs of EU membership).

Any update on the £350m/week to the NHS? How is that panning out?
We haven't left yet. We are still paying all the subs as good members who follow the rules.

Once we have left you can start asking the question.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
quotequote all
///ajd said:
CaptainSlow said:
///ajd said:
turbobloke said:
Jimboka said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40042427
There's a surprise, growth stalling due to brexit.
I suppose trashing the economy is one way of deterring our better off European friends from coming here, to live/work/pay taxes
Brexit isn't mentioned in the linked article. None of the economists' guesses passed off as explanations involve any hint of a brexit mention. Presumably this "due to brexit" claim is your attempt to boost manufacture and fabrication.
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.

At €1.15/£ at the moment. Interesting to see what it will do post Jun 8 - I would guess go up, but then again the election is surely a foregone conclusion, so maybe it will just fluctuate in its new brexit levels, until the news from the negotiations starts to make it follow the emerging impact on our economic future.
Any update on when our promised "immediate" and "profound" recession will start?
No, it will be much more gradual than that - more like the steady erosion in GDP growth over the next decades that the treasury predicted. Still big billions a year by that time of course (the loss dwarfing any costs of EU membership).

Any update on the £350m/week to the NHS? How is that panning out?
As said, sadly we still have to pay for a few more unused Spanish motorways yet.

Not that it matters as we all know World War 3 will start as soon as Brexit happens, as after all, EU membership has been the reason for world peace over the last 70 years.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 25th May 2017
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///ajd said:
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.

At €1.15/£ at the moment. Interesting to see what it will do post Jun 8 - I would guess go up, but then again the election is surely a foregone conclusion, so maybe it will just fluctuate in its new brexit levels, until the news from the negotiations starts to make it follow the emerging impact on our economic future.
I don't recall you posting when the pound hit 1.20 Euro and 1.30 USD last week.

What's the lowest the GBP has been against the USD slasher? It was 1.05 in the mid 80's

The last month of the Labour party in charge, April 2010 the GBP was 1.15 to the Euro, same rate as today even with Brexit. January 2009 it was 1.04

You really are clueless chap.

turbobloke

103,911 posts

260 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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///ajd said:
It mentions prices going up.

Most can draw the link to our currency drop.

Most can draw the link to that from brexit. Some are in denial but that's just funny.
Some prices went up after decimalisation, even rounding was up and this in spite of attempts to massage it away as merely Labour's inflation at over 9%. Any old excuse. The latest is Brexit.

Price rises in various sectors happen for various reasons.

One size doesn't fit all, just like the EU/EZ.

Edited by turbobloke on Friday 26th May 08:16

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
Oh gawd, still with the big red bus tourettes. Predictable as ever.
rofl

Mrr T

12,214 posts

265 months

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Friday 26th May 2017
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Mrr T said:
Is that you're way of letting us know you're attending, and looking to see if anyone else is going along that you can buddy up with?

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

161 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Been quiet in here for a while. I guess that's because despite this being the "brexit election" no one is actually saying anything of any substance about brexit!

http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86498

What do people make of Richard North's latest blog? I know he has a bad rap for being "negative", but he does normally back his negativity up with links and evidence to legislation etc.

Reports that Mrs May is surrounding herself with "yes men" and freezing out any civil servant who dares to point out the problems of a "no deal" scenario, resulting in staff wanting as far away from the debacle as possible to try and preserve their careers when it all comes to a crash.

Based on what I'm seeing in the election, I'm actually worried that there could be some truth in these rumors.

Think I need to stop reading it as, despite being a leave voter, I think she's driving us off a cliff. frown

PRTVR

7,101 posts

221 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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Blue Oval84 said:
Been quiet in here for a while. I guess that's because despite this being the "brexit election" no one is actually saying anything of any substance about brexit!

http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86498

What do people make of Richard North's latest blog? I know he has a bad rap for being "negative", but he does normally back his negativity up with links and evidence to legislation etc.

Reports that Mrs May is surrounding herself with "yes men" and freezing out any civil servant who dares to point out the problems of a "no deal" scenario, resulting in staff wanting as far away from the debacle as possible to try and preserve their careers when it all comes to a crash.

Based on what I'm seeing in the election, I'm actually worried that there could be some truth in these rumors.

Think I need to stop reading it as, despite being a leave voter, I think she's driving us off a cliff. frown
surely the problem she has is most of the civil servants would have been remainers, how is she to stop them putting a spanner
in the works by saying the deal is not good enough and we need to remain ?

turbobloke

103,911 posts

260 months

Monday 5th June 2017
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PRTVR said:
Blue Oval84 said:
Been quiet in here for a while. I guess that's because despite this being the "brexit election" no one is actually saying anything of any substance about brexit!

http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86498

What do people make of Richard North's latest blog? I know he has a bad rap for being "negative", but he does normally back his negativity up with links and evidence to legislation etc.

Reports that Mrs May is surrounding herself with "yes men" and freezing out any civil servant who dares to point out the problems of a "no deal" scenario, resulting in staff wanting as far away from the debacle as possible to try and preserve their careers when it all comes to a crash.

Based on what I'm seeing in the election, I'm actually worried that there could be some truth in these rumors.

Think I need to stop reading it as, despite being a leave voter, I think she's driving us off a cliff. frown
surely the problem she has is most of the civil servants would have been remainers, how is she to stop them putting a spanner
in the works by saying the deal is not good enough and we need to remain ?
This is a problem with Labour governments expanding public sector jobs, the people appointed are going to remain loyal. This leads to situations such as the DfE encountered when Gove took over, with leaks and blocks from salaried minions such that Gove had to hose down the stables. That should happen more often but there are diffoculties doing so and this will benefit big government Labour on an accumulating basis over time.

Mrr T

12,214 posts

265 months

Monday 5th June 2017
quotequote all
PRTVR said:
Blue Oval84 said:
Been quiet in here for a while. I guess that's because despite this being the "brexit election" no one is actually saying anything of any substance about brexit!

http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86498

What do people make of Richard North's latest blog? I know he has a bad rap for being "negative", but he does normally back his negativity up with links and evidence to legislation etc.

Reports that Mrs May is surrounding herself with "yes men" and freezing out any civil servant who dares to point out the problems of a "no deal" scenario, resulting in staff wanting as far away from the debacle as possible to try and preserve their careers when it all comes to a crash.

Based on what I'm seeing in the election, I'm actually worried that there could be some truth in these rumors.

Think I need to stop reading it as, despite being a leave voter, I think she's driving us off a cliff. frown
surely the problem she has is most of the civil servants would have been remainers, how is she to stop them putting a spanner
in the works by saying the deal is not good enough and we need to remain ?
The brexit buffoons hate Richard North because he does not fit in with the group think. You know the one where the tanned PH company director says in his (it’s always a man) hands we would be out in 2 days.

The fact as North points out are that leaving an organisation we have been closely integrated in, and deciding to leave the SM and the CU at the same time is immensely complicated.

TM continues to spout NDIBTBD. Even though brexit buffoon in chief DD has admitted they have no idea what no deal means.

I read conservativehome and last week they had a serious of articles on the WTO exit. What was fascinating was that none of the articles address a no deal option. Every article was about the WTO but where the UK/rEU agreed this or agree that.

The fact is if the civil service are pointing out the complexity TM and colleagues are not listening.

The next few months will be interesting. It will be fascinating as team TM get pushed closer and closer to the cliff edge.

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