The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 2)

[JagLover]

amusingduck said:

Jimboka said:

'If' Brexit happens.. 50/50
I'll quit work that day & live off investments etc which are doing nicely thank you due to the Brexit effect (trashing the pound etc)
My small protest will be to stop paying a not insubstantial tax amount to Little England. Which would equate to the Daily Mail dreamt up benefits, paid to a few non-existent East European families who wouldn't be deported if they existed anyway!
Will be a taker from that day!
Every cloud has a rainbow etc.
That is my small contribution to the economic consequences of Brexit.

Some Remainers seem very bitter, petty, people.

[Robertj21a]

Jimboka said:

'If' Brexit happens.. 50/50
I'll quit work that day & live off investments etc which are doing nicely thank you due to the Brexit effect (trashing the pound etc)
My small protest will be to stop paying a not insubstantial tax amount to Little England. Which would equate to the Daily Mail dreamt up benefits, paid to a few non-existent East European families who wouldn't be deported if they existed anyway!
Will be a taker from that day!
Every cloud has a rainbow etc.
That is my small contribution to the economic consequences of Brexit.

Always good to hear of people with plans for the future. I take it that you'll find the UK such a terrible place that you'll also decide to move elsewhere ?

[Murph7355]

Jimboka said:

'If' Brexit happens.. 50/50
I'll quit work that day & live off investments etc which are doing nicely thank you due to the Brexit effect (trashing the pound etc)
My small protest will be to stop paying a not insubstantial tax amount to Little England. Which would equate to the Daily Mail dreamt up benefits, paid to a few non-existent East European families who wouldn't be deported if they existed anyway!
Will be a taker from that day!
Every cloud has a rainbow etc.
That is my small contribution to the economic consequences of Brexit.

And people on here have said Leave voters have a bad attitude.

Still, if your Warren Buffet-esque capabilities have been as successful as you say, take heart that you won't be a taker. You'll still be paying tax, still be spending your Brexit bonus here, paying tax and supporting jobs. Meanwhile you'll be out of the workplace freeing up work for someone who's not as inclined to sulk. So thanks. Win win all round.

Of course if you're not quite as well off as you think you are and you do indeed become a net taker, well done you. Be proud of yourself. The country needs more people like that, Brexit or no Brexit.

[Jockman]

jsf said:

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/acft/FCO+30+104...

Thanks for the link. Did she really sign off as Margaret Shatwell?

[Jockman]

ash73 said:

They knew all along

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Bre...

Any Govt no doubt hides a lot from its people.

Are we not in a similar position with the Impact Assessments on EU Withdrawal or do they genuinely not exist?

[jjlynn27]

LOL @ replies to Jimboka's post. Where is that sado that counts insults and whining?

In the meantime, families £400 worse of as a direct result of Brexit.

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-vote-has-made-ho...

But what do they know?

[Digga]

Jockman said:

jsf said:

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/acft/FCO+30+104...

Thanks for the link. Did she really sign off as Margaret Shatwell?

I'm going to save that name for the next time I'm in Starbucks.

[anonymous-user]

jjlynn27 said:

LOL @ replies to Jimboka's post. Where is that sado that counts insults and whining?

In the meantime, families £400 worse of as a direct result of Brexit.

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-vote-has-made-ho...

But what do they know?

Haha. You must be desperate to need to post that ste.

Check out how much worse off the average Greek family is by staying in the EU.

[jjlynn27]

Jockman said:

ash73 said:

They knew all along

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Bre...

Any Govt no doubt hides a lot from its people.

Are we not in a similar position with the Impact Assessments on EU Withdrawal or do they genuinely not exist?

Trust Express to do the spin for numpties.

Did a quick skim and can't see anything wrong there.

[jjlynn27]

REALIST123 said:

jjlynn27 said:

LOL @ replies to Jimboka's post. Where is that sado that counts insults and whining?

In the meantime, families £400 worse of as a direct result of Brexit.

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-vote-has-made-ho...

But what do they know?

Haha. You must be desperate to need to post that ste.

Check out how much worse off the average Greek family is by staying in the EU.

Desperate for?

But nice squirrel with Greece. You are free to find and post research by the reputable institution about the effect of EU on the Greek economy.

Side note; UK is not Greece.

[Jockman]

jjlynn27 said:

LOL @ replies to Jimboka's post. Where is that sado that counts insults and whining?

In the meantime, families £400 worse of as a direct result of Brexit.

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-vote-has-made-ho...

But what do they know?

Direct result of the Leave Vote. Not Brexit,

Interesting to see the correlation with inflation. Interesting also to see budget (OBR? BOE?) predictions on future inflation levels.

I was surprised (reassuringly) that they were not predicted to be higher.

[Digga]

jjlynn27 said:

Jockman said:

ash73 said:

They knew all along

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Bre...

Any Govt no doubt hides a lot from its people.

Are we not in a similar position with the Impact Assessments on EU Withdrawal or do they genuinely not exist?

Trust Express to do the spin for numpties.

Did a quick skim and can't see anything wrong there.

Okay, I'll fillet it for you and highlight the moral hazard:

Christopher Booker said:

Here was a civil servant advising that our politicians should connive in concealing what Heath was letting us in for, not least in hiding the extent to which Britain would no longer be a democratic country but one essentially governed by unelected and unaccountable officials.

Christopher Booker is a writer and journalist , one of the founders of the satirical magazine Private Eye, a publication not known for support of any particular party or politics.

Basically, the nation was deliberately deceived about the reality.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Digga said:

Christopher Booker is a writer and journalist , one of the founders of the satirical magazine Private Eye, a publication not known for support of any particular party or politics.

Basically, the nation was deliberately deceived about the reality.

Christopher Booker is a climate change denier, has questioned the theory of evolution, has written dozens of articles playing down the risks of asbestos, claimed speed cameras increase road deaths & published several articles making outlandish claims about the EU including the wonderful lie that EU rules you'll be allowed to bury dead pets only after "pressure cooking them at 130C for half an hour.

He is in short an unreliable witness & I would think twice about putting him up as a steely bulwark of truth & rectitude, Or I could just do what you do & call for your banning for putting flowering whimsy about.

[don'tbesilly]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Digga said:

Christopher Booker is a writer and journalist , one of the founders of the satirical magazine Private Eye, a publication not known for support of any particular party or politics.

Basically, the nation was deliberately deceived about the reality.

Christopher Booker is a climate change denier, has questioned the theory of evolution, has written dozens of articles playing down the risks of asbestos, claimed speed cameras increase road deaths & published several articles making outlandish claims about the EU including the wonderful lie that EU rules you'll be allowed to bury dead pets only after "pressure cooking them at 130C for half an hour.

He is in short an unreliable witness & I would think twice about putting him up as a steely bulwark of truth & rectitude, Or I could just do what you do & call for your banning for putting flowering whimsy about.

However in regards the subject matter Booker was correct, the details as posted if you'd bother to read them are irrefutable.

[Digga]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Digga said:

Christopher Booker is a writer and journalist , one of the founders of the satirical magazine Private Eye, a publication not known for support of any particular party or politics.

Basically, the nation was deliberately deceived about the reality.

Christopher Booker is a climate change denier, has questioned the theory of evolution, has written dozens of articles playing down the risks of asbestos, claimed speed cameras increase road deaths & published several articles making outlandish claims about the EU including the wonderful lie that EU rules you'll be allowed to bury dead pets only after "pressure cooking them at 130C for half an hour.

He is in short an unreliable witness & I would think twice about putting him up as a steely bulwark of truth & rectitude, Or I could just do what you do & call for your banning for putting flowering whimsy about.

Play the ball not the man.

[Eddie Strohacker]

Digga said:

Play the ball not the man.

I did. You might have chosen to take me to task on Booker but sadly, it wasn't to be.

[Hayek]

b2hbm said:

ash73 said:

They knew all along
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Bre...

and

jsf said:

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/acft/FCO+30+104...

An interesting read. When did this surface, is it recent or has it just passed me by ? Was this released before the 2016 referendum, or is the release of the documents the reason we had a referendum in 2016 ?

I've only skimmed the pages but apart from the obvious predictions of the EEC forming it's own combined army, primacy of Commission over national governments, etc, it seems to contain pretty much everything we were told pre referendum that didn't apply because either "we have a veto" or "we have an opt-out". Yet those documents predict the necessity for majority voting as the only way the EEC (as then) could move forwards, which makes a veto rather useless.

I wonder what effect those documents, if leaked in full, would have made back on the eve of the referendum ?

It passed you by. Has been available for around a decade, I've put a link to it in more than one PH thread.

Keep digging around and there's all sorts of questionable documents and unlikely coincidences that you can find. Pretty sure that no party opposes the unpopular HS2 because the program exists to fulfil an EU mandated program to complete a trans-European high speed railway line.

[jjlynn27]

Jockman said:

Direct result of the Leave Vote. Not Brexit,

Interesting to see the correlation with inflation. Interesting also to see budget (OBR? BOE?) predictions on future inflation levels.

I was surprised (reassuringly) that they were not predicted to be higher.

What I see as a problem is this collective delusion that the rest of the world is just waiting to do extra-super trade deals. If our offices in India and States are any barometer, some people are in for the rude awakening.

What were predictions for inflation and over what period?

[Digga]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Digga said:

Play the ball not the man.

I did. You might have chosen to take me to task on Booker but sadly, it wasn't to be.

His statement about the actions of the UK government in April 1971 is totally correct, factual. Another poster even provided a link to the document itself which shows deliberate obfuscation.

[jjlynn27]

Digga said:

Okay, I'll fillet it for you and highlight the moral hazard:

Christopher Booker said:

Here was a civil servant advising that our politicians should connive in concealing what Heath was letting us in for, not least in hiding the extent to which Britain would no longer be a democratic country but one essentially governed by unelected and unaccountable officials.

Christopher Booker is a writer and journalist , one of the founders of the satirical magazine Private Eye, a publication not known for support of any particular party or politics.

Basically, the nation was deliberately deceived about the reality.

Thanks for the filleting. If I can return the favour, and you need any advice on biking, do let me know.

Anyway;

I was skim reading the linked document, not the express/Booker translation. Private Eye maybe independent (i don't really read it, so don't know), but Booker, when it comes to Brexit, is anything but. Britain was never governed by 'unelected and unaccountable officials'.We've been through how successive UK govts have been very closely aligned with EU. Same governments that were democratically elected.