Can PH solve the missing Honington airman?

[Willhire89]

#CorriesArmy

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Greendubber said:

coyft said:

The Mad Monk said:

coyft said:

The police have let the family down enough with their incompetence.

It now seems particularly cruel to give up the search.

So how long do you think the police should continue to search for?

A month?

A year?

5 Years?

Come on, give us a clue!

I think the family deserves some sort of closure.

I presume that waste has been moved around the site in the months before they started the search.

Perhaps an admission from the police that their delay in searching the site has resulted in it now being impossible to find. That coupled with the resignation of those responsible might be a start.

You presuming means nothing. They have searched the area containing the waste from the area he was seen entering and he's not in it, how do you propose a body has moved to another area?
With no further lines of enquiry or any proof of life it'll be filed pending anything else coming to light like thousands of other missing person enquires.

All of which is completely incorrect.

The search area where Corries body is believed to be has not been exhausted.

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

[Greendubber]

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

coyft said:

The Mad Monk said:

coyft said:

The police have let the family down enough with their incompetence.

It now seems particularly cruel to give up the search.

So how long do you think the police should continue to search for?

A month?

A year?

5 Years?

Come on, give us a clue!

I think the family deserves some sort of closure.

I presume that waste has been moved around the site in the months before they started the search.

Perhaps an admission from the police that their delay in searching the site has resulted in it now being impossible to find. That coupled with the resignation of those responsible might be a start.

You presuming means nothing. They have searched the area containing the waste from the area he was seen entering and he's not in it, how do you propose a body has moved to another area?
With no further lines of enquiry or any proof of life it'll be filed pending anything else coming to light like thousands of other missing person enquires.

All of which is completely incorrect.

The search area where Corries body is believed to be has not been exhausted.

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

Just relaying what I have read.

Maybe you should pop over and tell them how to do it rather than moaning constantly on here about how awful it all is.

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Greendubber said:

coyft said:

Greendubber said:

You presuming means nothing. They have searched the area containing the waste from the area he was seen entering and he's not in it, how do you propose a body has moved to another area?
With no further lines of enquiry or any proof of life it'll be filed pending anything else coming to light like thousands of other missing person enquires.

We may never know.

What is certain, is that if they had searched the site within the first week they would know for sure.

Would we?

The supposed experts in bin collection advised he couldn't have been in the bin didn't they?

No experts were involved so far as bin contents were concerned, the employees concerned told police incorrect information regarding the weight of the suspected bin. For this those persons were arrested and questioned, later released with no charges. Those persons made an error. The Police compounded the error by accepting the information given by those persons was correct. And yet logic was telling that Corrie was in the bin and now in the landfill, Police took a 'computer said'' approach leading to where we are now.

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Greendubber said:

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

coyft said:

The Mad Monk said:

coyft said:

The police have let the family down enough with their incompetence.

It now seems particularly cruel to give up the search.

So how long do you think the police should continue to search for?

A month?

A year?

5 Years?

Come on, give us a clue!

I think the family deserves some sort of closure.

I presume that waste has been moved around the site in the months before they started the search.

Perhaps an admission from the police that their delay in searching the site has resulted in it now being impossible to find. That coupled with the resignation of those responsible might be a start.

You presuming means nothing. They have searched the area containing the waste from the area he was seen entering and he's not in it, how do you propose a body has moved to another area?
With no further lines of enquiry or any proof of life it'll be filed pending anything else coming to light like thousands of other missing person enquires.

All of which is completely incorrect.

The search area where Corries body is believed to be has not been exhausted.

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

Just relaying what I have read.

Maybe you should pop over and tell them how to do it rather than moaning constantly on here about how awful it all is.

Not moaning, merely making an attempt to correct the nonsense being spewed out in here. So far as your 'awful it is' comment, two things come to mind :
It's much more than awful and needs to be kept in the public domain for as long as possible.
These will be the same incompetent Police Officers enjoying large salaries and pension benefits. No problem with that except my confidence in thier work has been damaged by the revelations of how they managed this case?

Clearly, if you have nothing but The Sun newspaper gibberish to offer why bother at all?

[Greendubber]

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

coyft said:

The Mad Monk said:

coyft said:

The police have let the family down enough with their incompetence.

It now seems particularly cruel to give up the search.

So how long do you think the police should continue to search for?

A month?

A year?

5 Years?

Come on, give us a clue!

I think the family deserves some sort of closure.

I presume that waste has been moved around the site in the months before they started the search.

Perhaps an admission from the police that their delay in searching the site has resulted in it now being impossible to find. That coupled with the resignation of those responsible might be a start.

You presuming means nothing. They have searched the area containing the waste from the area he was seen entering and he's not in it, how do you propose a body has moved to another area?
With no further lines of enquiry or any proof of life it'll be filed pending anything else coming to light like thousands of other missing person enquires.

All of which is completely incorrect.

The search area where Corries body is believed to be has not been exhausted.

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

Just relaying what I have read.

Maybe you should pop over and tell them how to do it rather than moaning constantly on here about how awful it all is.

Not moaning, merely making an attempt to correct the nonsense being spewed out in here. So far as your 'awful it is' comment, two things come to mind :
It's much more than awful and needs to be kept in the public domain for as long as possible.
These will be the same incompetent Police Officers enjoying large salaries and pension benefits. No problem with that except my confidence in thier work has been damaged by the revelations of how they managed this case?

Clearly, if you have nothing but The Sun newspaper gibberish to offer why bother at all?

You are moaning, at anyone who dares show a different opinion to you.

So if 'Sun newspaper gibberish' (what's in the press) is what we have to go on, what extra info are you privy to or which tabloids should be or shouldn't we take any notice of?

The bin company would be experts in relation to their trade rather than the police officers who know the square root of nothing about how much the bins normally weigh.

I'm sorry but you're just sound like a Monday morning quarter back sitting up in an ivory tower with months of hindsight to fall back on.

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Willhire89 said:

#CorriesArmy

The irony, given the thread title!

[Greendubber]

coyft said:

Willhire89 said:

#CorriesArmy

Yes, I can see how might come across like that.

I guess a lot of it is local bias. Obviously there was a huge amount of media attention when he went missing.

When the phone was tracked with the movements of the bin lorry, I couldn't believe they didn't just check the landfill.

All my mates thought the same.

Things like this will always be emotive. I suppose some of us (me included) always need to remember someone's loved one is still missing.

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Greendubber said:

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

coyft said:

The Mad Monk said:

coyft said:

The police have let the family down enough with their incompetence.

It now seems particularly cruel to give up the search.

So how long do you think the police should continue to search for?

A month?

A year?

5 Years?

Come on, give us a clue!

I think the family deserves some sort of closure.

I presume that waste has been moved around the site in the months before they started the search.

Perhaps an admission from the police that their delay in searching the site has resulted in it now being impossible to find. That coupled with the resignation of those responsible might be a start.

You presuming means nothing. They have searched the area containing the waste from the area he was seen entering and he's not in it, how do you propose a body has moved to another area?
With no further lines of enquiry or any proof of life it'll be filed pending anything else coming to light like thousands of other missing person enquires.

All of which is completely incorrect.

The search area where Corries body is believed to be has not been exhausted.

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

Just relaying what I have read.

Maybe you should pop over and tell them how to do it rather than moaning constantly on here about how awful it all is.

Not moaning, merely making an attempt to correct the nonsense being spewed out in here. So far as your 'awful it is' comment, two things come to mind :
It's much more than awful and needs to be kept in the public domain for as long as possible.
These will be the same incompetent Police Officers enjoying large salaries and pension benefits. No problem with that except my confidence in thier work has been damaged by the revelations of how they managed this case?

Clearly, if you have nothing but The Sun newspaper gibberish to offer why bother at all?

You are moaning, at anyone who dares show a different opinion to you.

So if 'Sun newspaper gibberish' (what's in the press) is what we have to go on, what extra info are you privy to or which tabloids should be or shouldn't we take any notice of?

The bin company would be experts in relation to their trade rather than the police officers who know the square root of nothing about how much the bins normally weigh.

I'm sorry but you're just sound like a Monday morning quarter back sitting up in an ivory tower with months of hindsight to fall back on.

I follow the case on local television where it's still a big story, interviews with Corries Mother and Father together with the lead Police Officer. I disregard newspapers where journalists write for sensationalism rather than facts. You may be able to find the BBC East Anglia news clips over the past year or so.
I am in no ivory tower I assure you of that, but given the thread objectives I want to keep it positive with the help of a few other posters in here, by only posting positive facts of the case as they appear.
Yes the lad is almost without doubt passed on, we have to imagine it is our son or daughter, God forbid, and yes I am too emotional.

[Greendubber]

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

crankedup said:

Greendubber said:

coyft said:

The Mad Monk said:

coyft said:

The police have let the family down enough with their incompetence.

It now seems particularly cruel to give up the search.

So how long do you think the police should continue to search for?

A month?

A year?

5 Years?

Come on, give us a clue!

I think the family deserves some sort of closure.

I presume that waste has been moved around the site in the months before they started the search.

Perhaps an admission from the police that their delay in searching the site has resulted in it now being impossible to find. That coupled with the resignation of those responsible might be a start.

You presuming means nothing. They have searched the area containing the waste from the area he was seen entering and he's not in it, how do you propose a body has moved to another area?
With no further lines of enquiry or any proof of life it'll be filed pending anything else coming to light like thousands of other missing person enquires.

All of which is completely incorrect.

The search area where Corries body is believed to be has not been exhausted.

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

Just relaying what I have read.

Maybe you should pop over and tell them how to do it rather than moaning constantly on here about how awful it all is.

Not moaning, merely making an attempt to correct the nonsense being spewed out in here. So far as your 'awful it is' comment, two things come to mind :
It's much more than awful and needs to be kept in the public domain for as long as possible.
These will be the same incompetent Police Officers enjoying large salaries and pension benefits. No problem with that except my confidence in thier work has been damaged by the revelations of how they managed this case?

Clearly, if you have nothing but The Sun newspaper gibberish to offer why bother at all?

You are moaning, at anyone who dares show a different opinion to you.

So if 'Sun newspaper gibberish' (what's in the press) is what we have to go on, what extra info are you privy to or which tabloids should be or shouldn't we take any notice of?

The bin company would be experts in relation to their trade rather than the police officers who know the square root of nothing about how much the bins normally weigh.

I'm sorry but you're just sound like a Monday morning quarter back sitting up in an ivory tower with months of hindsight to fall back on.

I follow the case on local television where it's still a big story, interviews with Corries Mother and Father together with the lead Police Officer. I disregard newspapers where journalists write for sensationalism rather than facts. You may be able to find the BBC East Anglia news clips over the past year or so.
I am in no ivory tower I assure you of that, but given the thread objectives I want to keep it positive with the help of a few other posters in here, by only posting positive facts of the case as they appear.
Yes the lad is almost without doubt passed on, we have to imagine it is our son or daughter, God forbid, and yes I am too emotional.

I understand, so that's fair enough, not being local its not getting any coverage here so we only see the small bits that come out in the national press.

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coyft said:

The police have let the family down enough with their incompetence.

It now seems particularly cruel to give up the search.

It is cruel but is is a reality check.

Someone here will know the stats about time missing/% found alive...

With limited resources, you will need to focus on cases that you are more likely to get a positive result from; statistically.

[Mastodon2]

crankedup said:

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

Who is going to pay for that? They don't have unlimited funds to search for someone who almost certainly died by misadventure of his own doing. There will be no one to be held accountable at the end of this as it's now fairly certain what happened to him. Maybe now it's time to start spending the budget on policing for the people who are still alive?

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Mastodon2 said:

crankedup said:

The Police are considering a forensic examination of incinerated waste.

Who is going to pay for that? They don't have unlimited funds to search for someone who almost certainly died by misadventure of his own doing. There will be no one to be held accountable at the end of this as it's now fairly certain what happened to him. Maybe now it's time to start spending the budget on policing for the people who are still alive?

I have not read or heard of any grumbles from local people who contribute to the Suffolk Policing costs regarding this case.
It is, I assume, only a small part of the Police force involved in this case and a small % of overal budget.
Nothing has been a waste of money in this case,imo, as lessons will have been learned and useful in future cases perhaps.
Having said that the Police are reviewing the case and presume they may be considering stopping the search altogether.

[BJG1]

I'm from Suffolk, Bury St Edmunds specifically (though now a Norfolk resident) and I think it's a waste of money to continue to look for him.

[crankedup]

I live in Bury St Edmunds, I think it's money well spent.

[danllama]

From an outsiders perspective, its a waste of money etc. Especially if they're at the point of testing incinerated waste. Why not just scoop up a pile of waste ash and give to the family? 'here you are, good luck with the funeral'. Not a very pleasant thought, eh?

Give it a rest.

[eccles]

It's heartbreaking for the family, but I'm a realist and at some point you have to say enough is enough.

Once the news broke last week there was a flurry on the local and national news, but like all these things, the world moves on and it doesn't get a mention now unless there's a new threat of legal action by the mother.

I know the spending hasn't reached anywhere near that of the Maddie case, but you have to weigh up the prospects of getting a result. The area where they suspected the body to be has been searched and they've come up empty handed. How do they justify spending money on more searches (or continuing where they already are) when no new information has come to hand.

[BJG1]

coyft said:

You've never contributed to the Suffolk police and you support Norwich, so you can do one.

I paid council tax in bury for a year!

[soprano]

soprano said:

I don't know if this is an error in reporting, but the BBC report says they are searching the waste site in Milton, Cambridgeshire. That is not the same site as the one at Barton Mills in Suffolk that matched the pings from his mobile phone.

I've not been following this thread closely, has anyone got to the bottom of this?

[anonymous-user]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-40792...

Basically without quoting the article it looks like some material from an incinerator bares closer examination