Protesting - useful/gets things done or a waste of time?
Discussion
MrBrightSi said:
How do people think comparing real issues to fking kids books is going to change peoples minds.
"What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
I've asked these open borders people on several occasions if, since the idea of a country is meaningless, whether they'd be happy moving to Somalia or Afghanistan. Oddly, I've never gotten a proper reply."What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
Lance Catarmaran said:
MrBrightSi said:
How do people think comparing real issues to fking kids books is going to change peoples minds.
"What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
I've asked these open borders people on several occasions if, since the idea of a country is meaningless, whether they'd be happy moving to Somalia or Afghanistan. Oddly, I've never gotten a proper reply."What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
Tryke3 said:
What does the EU have to do with Afghanstan or Somalia ?
Somaliahttps://eeas.europa.eu/delegations/somalia/area/fo...
EU said:
The EU is engaged in Somalia through a comprehensive approach based on active diplomacy, support for political change, improving security, development assistance and humanitarian aid.
Somalia undertook political reforms in line with the New Deal principles for fragile states, which were agreed in 2011. The New Deal (2013-2016) has guided relations between Somalia and the EU and other international partners. A New Accountability and Partnership principles are expected to be renewed when a new Somali government will be in place in 2017.
AfghanistanSomalia undertook political reforms in line with the New Deal principles for fragile states, which were agreed in 2011. The New Deal (2013-2016) has guided relations between Somalia and the EU and other international partners. A New Accountability and Partnership principles are expected to be renewed when a new Somali government will be in place in 2017.
https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-h...
EU said:
The EU has a long-term commitment to Afghanistan and its people. Its main aim is to develop Afghanistan's institutions so that the progress already made is maintained. The EU also wants to help in establishing a sustainable Afghan state.
HTH as clearly google appears to be broken for you BlackLabel said:
Found it funny they have "MOVEMENT FOR JUSTICE" but you go to their facebook and it has "BY ANY MEANS" at the end. What a stupid name for a group and the willingness for these supposedly forward thinking progressive and inclusive people to go to "any means" when they don't get their way speaks volumes.Movement for Justice By Any Means Necessary
@movementforjustice
Tryke3 said:
Lance Catarmaran said:
MrBrightSi said:
How do people think comparing real issues to fking kids books is going to change peoples minds.
"What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
I've asked these open borders people on several occasions if, since the idea of a country is meaningless, whether they'd be happy moving to Somalia or Afghanistan. Oddly, I've never gotten a proper reply."What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
Lance Catamaran said:
Tryke3 said:
Lance Catarmaran said:
MrBrightSi said:
How do people think comparing real issues to fking kids books is going to change peoples minds.
"What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
I've asked these open borders people on several occasions if, since the idea of a country is meaningless, whether they'd be happy moving to Somalia or Afghanistan. Oddly, I've never gotten a proper reply."What i'm like some st books bad guy, best change my ways!!"
Also, the whole "Open borders for everybody" do people still pedal that complete idiocy?
They have lived their entire lives in the safety of our society, the wonderful western civilisation that has coddled them into wanting it's destruction. Given the choice i'd be packing my bags for Zimbabwe, i'd love to enjoy the amazing geography of that part of the world, it's not like that though is it. It's a hell hole of human suffering and the sooner they realise that is why the gates stay up the better.
B'stard Child said:
BlackLabel said:
Correct the UK voted to leave the EU - that was the question on the ballotThere is no "Hard" or "Medium" or "Soft" Brexit just that we attempt to negotiate to leave on good terms. If that negotiation doesn't work out in the interests of both side we just leave......
In 1975 the UK voted to join a Europe wide trading bloc known as the EEC (and on only a tiny fraction of the information that was available to voters for the 2016 referendum)
Given that it (The EEC) changed `itself' into a COMPLETELY different animal (the EU) in 1993, (that no one in the UK was given a vote on, and that very few would have voted for) and given the fact that no similar legal challenges to those made in 2016 were made against the way it was done in 1975, it is quite possible that the UK`s membership of the EU is, and has been an illegal construct since 1993.
I can't decide if this is an example of protests working or not working:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39398305
On one hand they must have the potential to do something because Putin banned an anti-corruption protest, and hundreds were arrested.
On the other hand, a bunch of concerned citizens got themselves arrested.
Thinking about the protests in Turkey a couple of years ago which got a lot of Turks peppersprayed and not much else, it may be that the state is now too powerful to fear the people given enough control of the media- something to think about for those who wish the Mail/Guardian dead, I guess.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39398305
On one hand they must have the potential to do something because Putin banned an anti-corruption protest, and hundreds were arrested.
On the other hand, a bunch of concerned citizens got themselves arrested.
Thinking about the protests in Turkey a couple of years ago which got a lot of Turks peppersprayed and not much else, it may be that the state is now too powerful to fear the people given enough control of the media- something to think about for those who wish the Mail/Guardian dead, I guess.
Thought i'd add to BlackLabels great pictures from the day, with the videos of a journalist i follow. He spends a lot more time on the russia-ukraine stuff, but has been present for a few of the anti-brexit marches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx9E_EmPQuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_GHqDkcVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viJxMJ5mr8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D79o-gzoXVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7coZmuhtTs&t=...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJrMHhTAHWE
There are a few more videos of the march and I urge you all to give them a view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx9E_EmPQuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_GHqDkcVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viJxMJ5mr8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D79o-gzoXVg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7coZmuhtTs&t=...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJrMHhTAHWE
There are a few more videos of the march and I urge you all to give them a view.
Don said:
anonymous said:
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Shame they didn't listen. At least it hasn't led to another atrocity. Imagine the sheer merry hell if some nutjob succeeded in driving a car into their ranks? Doesn't bear thinking about on every last level.In what way would cancelling a march/demo show that we don't give in to terrorism?
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