45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

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Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

85 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Jader1973 said:
I was reading yesterday that one of the press secretaries (Sarah Huckabee Sanders) was having a rant about CNN and the press in general during a press conference.

The Whitehouse correspondent from
Playboy (yes really) stood up and interrupted her. He told her (them) to stop bullying the press, stop being inflammatory, and "We're here to ask questions. You're here to provide answers."

I suspect he won't be allowed back in.
He did, it's a remarkable piece of footage. Remarkable because it had to be said in the White house, to the press sec & that it took someone from Playboy to say it, Democracy dies in darkness as they say & between the fking loonies of Breitbart & Zerobrains & the endless trivialities seized upon by the everyday outlets that are appalling behaviour from a sitting president but inconsequential in terms of the big picture, the media, across the board are failing in their duty to hold this gimp to account.

No camera briefings? Turn on your cameras, they can't ban you all & if they do, write the bloody story and keep writing it.

Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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I just look at the only people vocally supporting him on here now.

That is a damning indictment of any persons character.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

97 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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How kind of you to take time to share your thoughts with us.

Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Sylvaforever said:
How kind of you to take time to share your thoughts with us.
Thanks for proving my point.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

97 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Colonial said:
Sylvaforever said:
How kind of you to take time to share your thoughts with us.
Thanks for proving my point.
Perhaps you could talk things over with the editorial team and find some other method of expressing your opinion that does not require you to belittle other forum members?


Colonial

13,553 posts

204 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Sylvaforever said:
Perhaps you could talk things over with the editorial team and find some other method of expressing your opinion that does not require you to belittle other forum members?
Ok snowflake. Sorry if I have intruded into your safe place.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

97 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Colonial said:
Sylvaforever said:
Perhaps you could talk things over with the editorial team and find some other method of expressing your opinion that does not require you to belittle other forum members?
Ok snowflake. Sorry if I have intruded into your safe place.
"Thanks for proving my point" as you said.

Byker28i

58,810 posts

216 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
essayer said:
At this point I have to wonder if the President of the United States is actually sane

I found her reply quite funny



I find resident Trumpetes rather adorable. 'Oh look, but Obama did this !!'

I really hope Trump stays president for a long time. The comedy value is fantastic.
Even more amazing when you consider that Melania Trump said she'd tackle cyber bullying as First Lady
"Our culture has gotten too mean and too rough, especially to children and teenagers," she said at the time. "And it is absolutely unacceptable when it is done by someone with no name hiding on the Internet."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpol...


Then her spokesperson Stephanie Grisham said that the first lady was “continuing to be thoughtful about her platform” and that “when her husband gets attacked, he will punch back 10 times harder.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-...
http://fortune.com/2017/06/29/donald-trump-twitter...

remebering of course that this attack came after the hosts were discussing Trumps fake magazine cover. Thin skinned?



Edited by Byker28i on Friday 30th June 08:00

roachcoach

3,975 posts

154 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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How long until WSJ is labelled fake news too?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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roachcoach said:
How long until WSJ is labelled fake news too?
Depends on the story. They print favourable, good news site, they print not favourable, fake news.




jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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unrepentant said:
The experts think he's dangerously mentally ill.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/d...
I expect, if challenged, Mr T will find many that will say he is OK? But also reading that panel have invited some criticism.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

196 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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unrepentant said:
The experts think he's dangerously mentally ill.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/d...
Since when have psychiatrists been able to diagnose patients without actually talking to the patient?

On top of this, these comments violate the "Goldwater Rule", which is part of the American Psychiatric Association’s code of ethics. The rule indicates that it is unethical to give a professional opinion about a public figure they have not examined personally or received consent to do so.

But, as with a lot of Democrats and the media in the US, the absence of facts is no bar to a good story (even if it's patently untrue, as CNN recently discovered).

Countdown

39,688 posts

195 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Monty Python said:
On top of this, these comments violate the "Goldwater Rule", which is part of the American Psychiatric Association’s code of ethics. The rule indicates that it is unethical to give a professional opinion about a public figure they have not examined personally or received consent to do so.
Trump could always do what Goldwater did and sue them..................... judge

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Monty Python said:
On top of this, these comments violate the "Goldwater Rule", which is part of the American Psychiatric Association’s code of ethics. The rule indicates that it is unethical to give a professional opinion about a public figure they have not examined personally or received consent to do so.
Is there not an exception to that Rule where the public interest in speaking out outweighs the ethical considerations in favour of keeping quiet? I'd be surprised it there weren't.

ou sont les biscuits

5,086 posts

194 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Greg66 said:
Monty Python said:
On top of this, these comments violate the "Goldwater Rule", which is part of the American Psychiatric Association’s code of ethics. The rule indicates that it is unethical to give a professional opinion about a public figure they have not examined personally or received consent to do so.
Is there not an exception to that Rule where the public interest in speaking out outweighs the ethical considerations in favour of keeping quiet? I'd be surprised it there weren't.
You don't need a degree in Psychiatry to see that the man has 'issues'.

babatunde

736 posts

189 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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jmorgan said:
mikal83 said:
Oh and all on benefits as well of course.......
I got the impression that in the US, on skid row really is a lot worse than in the UK.
Most definitely, you really really don't want to be poor in America.

There is a strong belief that if you are poor then it's your fault, this "belief" underpins their social support system so most states are a policy of enough is enough and will simply stop any form of benefit after a while, its the same "christian" philosophy that if you are sick it's Gods will, if you can't afford treatment it's also Gods will so go and die

babatunde

736 posts

189 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Colonial said:
I just look at the only people vocally supporting him on here now.

That is a damning indictment of any persons character.
That's not a very nice thing to say....................... true but not nice biggrinbiggrin

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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babatunde said:
Most definitely, you really really don't want to be poor in America.

There is a strong belief that if you are poor then it's your fault, this "belief" underpins their social support system so most states are a policy of enough is enough and will simply stop any form of benefit after a while, its the same "christian" philosophy that if you are sick it's Gods will, if you can't afford treatment it's also Gods will so go and die
There's very little reason to be poor in the USA unless you really can't be arsed.

When I started out over there I lived in a shelter which kicked me out every morning to go jobhunting. At night I had a bed and they fed me.

Within a week I got a job driving a forklift which allowed me to save for a bicycle allowing me to get about and a deposit on a flat.

My rent including electric and water was $400 a month and the job paid $660 a week after tax. This included health insurance which I ended up needing.

I saved enough for a car and started working up the ladder. No college degree, no American high school education... Just a foreigner trying his luck.

I learned some of the best lessons in my life being forced to think on my feet to survive.

Continued welfare dependancy would have taught me all the wrong lessons.

mikal83

5,340 posts

251 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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On Morning Joe, Donny Deutsch just called the orange buffoon a misogynist pig!

Eric Mc

121,773 posts

264 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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skyrover said:
There's very little reason to be poor in the USA unless you really can't be arsed.

When I started out over there I lived in a shelter which kicked me out every morning to go jobhunting. At night I had a bed and they fed me.

Within a week I got a job driving a forklift which allowed me to save for a bicycle allowing me to get about and a deposit on a flat.

My rent including electric and water was $400 a month and the job paid $660 a week after tax. This included health insurance which I ended up needing.

I saved enough for a car and started working up the ladder. No college degree, no American high school education... Just a foreigner trying his luck.

I learned some of the best lessons in my life being forced to think on my feet to survive.

Continued welfare dependancy would have taught me all the wrong lessons.
Agree - if you have mental health issues or suffer some some of life changing catasrophe outside your control - it's still your fault and you deserve whatever happens to you.

Being poor is something the poor bring on themselves. When will they ever learn, the schmucks.
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