Jo Cox Street Parties

[Mothersruin]

Mr Snrub said:

Mothersruin said:

Mr Snrub said:

Mothersruin said:

Good post.

Classic examples of this were the marches against the Iraq war and countryside fox hunting thing. Right or wrong, 'that lot' rarely protest but when they did they were actively scorned by the government. Completely ignored.

Except those who supported fox hunting were a minority

No. Most people didn't give a st but enough people did and marched which rarely happens. It had nothing to do with the welfare of foxes. Everyone knows it was the left having a pop at those it despises at massive cost pushing it through. wkers.

Also, the Majority of the HoL didn't agree and that Blair had to envoke the Parliament Act to override the democratic process.

Edited by Mothersruin on Saturday 25th February 12:29

Well about 60% supported the ban at the time

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/today_uk_imp...

And people are still overwhelmingly in favour

http://www.countryfile.com/explore-countryside/rou...

So those who want it brought back are a minority. But I guess it makes them feel better thinking it was all just envy from those ghastly commoners, not the fact that the majority of people feel "sports" that involve chasing down and killing animals have no place in 21st century Britain.

I still call it crap, the process of how.

Call people and ask them if they would like cruelty to foxes stop and most will say yes. I agree with that.

Don't call them and I bet they hadn't even thought about it.

That's the issue, it wasn't one for most.

For the record, I couldn't give a monkeys about the ban. There's far more important things to worry about deserving of parliaments time and effort.

[Mr Snrub]

Mothersruin said:

I still call it crap, the process of how.

Call people and ask them if they would like cruelty to foxes stop and most will say yes. I agree with that.

Don't call them and I bet they hadn't even thought about it.

That's the issue, it wasn't one for most.

For the record, I couldn't give a monkeys about the ban. There's far more important things to worry about deserving of parliaments time and effort.

People often don't think about things until they are asked or directly involved, but if there was a referendum on it tomorrow I would put money on the vast majority wanting to keep the ban. Anyway, we're totally off topic now so I'll leave it there.

[Mothersruin]

Mr Snrub said:

Mothersruin said:

I still call it crap, the process of how.

Call people and ask them if they would like cruelty to foxes stop and most will say yes. I agree with that.

Don't call them and I bet they hadn't even thought about it.

That's the issue, it wasn't one for most.

For the record, I couldn't give a monkeys about the ban. There's far more important things to worry about deserving of parliaments time and effort.

People often don't think about things until they are asked or directly involved, but if there was a referendum on it tomorrow I would put money on the vast majority wanting to keep the ban. Anyway, we're totally off topic now so I'll leave it there.

Agreed, but going back to why I posted originally, the left leaning have form of getting stroppy when things don't go their way and the Parliament Act is pretty much the definitive proof of that. You'd think it would be used in times of great danger to the nation etc... errrr, not quite...

[Mr Snrub]

Mothersruin said:

Agreed, but going back to why I posted originally, the left leaning have form of getting stroppy when things don't go their way and the Parliament Act is pretty much the definitive proof of that. You'd think it would be used in times of great danger to the nation etc... errrr, not quite...

Speaking more generally I agree, such as the protests after the last election from those who didn't seem to understand how our electoral system worked. But they were a minority and rightly laughed at or ignored by most people. Even a small number of protesters can make it seem as if they're representing a far greater proportion of the population than they actually do though. So whilst virtually everyone who describe themselves as left leaning would have been disappointed by the last election result, only a tiny percentage of them protested about it.

[BlackLabel]

"More than 100,000 events will be held around the country to celebrate the life of Jo Cox on the one year anniversary of her death."

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk...

[Hayek]

BlackLabel said:

"More than 100,000 events will be held around the country to celebrate the life of Jo Cox on the one year anniversary of her death."

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk...

Anyone here planning on going?

Articles quotes someone saying that this isn't political, but there's no way there would be the same hoo-ha if she didn't have the 'correct' political views.

[SeeFive]

Hayek said:

Anyone here planning on going?

Nope. Too "virtue signally" for me.

Why?? How many of the 10s of thousands attending know the first thing about her, or did so before the atrocity? Few I would guess, me being one of them so for me it would be at best a shallow point scoring demonstration on the back of a family's misfortune IMHO. None of my business at all.

Prefer to look after those close to me and use the ballot box to allow appointed others to look after the rest.

[Biker 1]

Hayek said:

Anyone here planning on going?

Articles quotes someone saying that this isn't political, but there's no way there would be the same hoo-ha if she didn't have the 'correct' political views.

She was shockingly murdered by a deranged man who should have been sectioned long before. I don't see this as a political murder as such.
If I was murdered, would anybody do a street party for me?

[anonymous-user]

Biker 1 said:

She was shockingly murdered by a deranged man who should have been sectioned long before. I don't see this as a political murder as such.
If I was murdered, would anybody do a street party for me?

They could hold a clean and tidy up event on the 2nd July in London

[Biker 1]

techiedave said:

They could hold a clean and tidy up event on the 2nd July in London

Are you suggesting I will meet my end on 2nd July???

[anonymous-user]

Biker 1 said:

techiedave said:

They could hold a clean and tidy up event on the 2nd July in London

Are you suggesting I will meet my end on 2nd July???

Not at all my good man.

I am referring to the day after the Labour planned marches

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/john-mcdonnel...

I am referring to the probability of damage being done by these people as they show their anger at the Tories and the Big Mac

[lucido grigio]

100,000 sounds optimistic to me.

Perhaps I should search for one near me,to avoid.

[BlackLabel]

Biker 1 said:

She was shockingly murdered by a deranged man who should have been sectioned long before. I don't see this as a political murder as such.
If I was murdered, would anybody do a street party for me?

The judge, who heard all the evidence, was pretty clear about the motive.

Justice Wilkie said:

There is no doubt that this
murder was done for the purpose of advancing a political, racial and ideological cause namely
that of violent white supremacism and exclusive nationalism most associated with Nazism and
its modern forms.

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sentencing-remarks-r-v-thomas-mair.pdf

And sure the killer had mental issues (OCD, paranoia, a persecution complex etc) however all the medical experts stated that there was no evidence of mental problems that could have caused his actions - his lawyers did not even try and bring his mental health issues into it when it came to a defence which I think says a lot.

I didn't agree with all of Jo Cox's politics and find this near beatification of her a bit strange but I don't think we should be glossing over the nature of her killing.

[del mar]

It is all a bit sickening, the murder of anybody is horrendous but I can't see why she is held up with such esteem.

this was an mp who was so out of touch with her own constituents.

She wanted to be in Europe with an open borders policy for refugees, batley voted for Br exit.

Imagine the calls when it gets to the 10th anniversary there will probably be a call for for a bank holiday!

Biker 1 I would attend a street party after your death providing your family paid for free booze.

[Smiler.]

I read the obit of Countess Mountbatten died on June 13 (albeit peacefully) yesterday.

Her father & her son were both murdered by the IRA. She survived but needed 120 stitches to her face.

After that episode, she devoted the last 30 years of her life to charities with particular interest in those serving bereaved parents.

[Topbuzz]

Did anyone go or hear of a party in their area?
Telegraph has a quote about 100,000 events and millions attending.

[Biker 1]

del mar said:

Biker 1 I would attend a street party after your death providing your family paid for free booze.

Cool - I'll add you to the invite list!

[Randy Winkman]

This could be a challenger for the most miserable and negative PH thread ever.

[Jonesy23]

Topbuzz said:

Did anyone go or hear of a party in their area?
Telegraph has a quote about 100,000 events and millions attending.

Of course not.

It would have been a massive thing if it was at all true. Which it isn't.

The truth is that while people might be sympathetic about a murder the harsh reality is they don't really care.

[Randy Winkman]

Most PHers don't because she was Labour and he was a right-winger.